do we know when this tape was made?

[BuffCuse]

People assuming that university is complicit because this tape should have been uncovered when they investigated, do we know at all when this tape was made? Obviously if he had this tape back then he wouldn't have needed any of the supposed other people he named to come forward and corroborate. It has to be new right? Don't think this implicates the university at all unless something to the contrary comes out. Right?

 

[Stern]

ESPN said it was made on Oct 8th, 2002.

They had to verify it was actually Laurie Fine though and not someone pretending to be Laurie. Which I am sure the FEDS have the technology to do a lot quicker than the local authorities.

 

[Cuse_1999]

ESPN said it was made on Oct 8th, 2002.

They had to verify it was actually Laurie Fine though and not someone pretending to be Laurie. Which I am sure the FEDS have the technology to do a lot quicker than the local authorities.

Didn't see the clip on ESPN, but I assume Davis had a hidden tape recorder? And if this tape was made in 2002 by Davis, then why did neither ESPN nor the PS run with the story then? I wouldn't think you wouldn't need a 2nd accuser to run the story in light of the tape

 

[Stern]

Didn't see the clip on ESPN, but I assume Davis had a hidden tape recorder? And if this tape was made in 2002 by Davis, then why did neither ESPN nor the PS run with the story then? I wouldn't think you wouldn't need a 2nd accuser to run the story in light of the tape

They had to verify it was Laurie on the other end with voice technology. It could have been a female friend of Davis pretending to be Laurie. And because Davis and and Laurie were in states where only 1 party had to know the conversation was being recorded its all legal

 

[BuffCuse]

It doesn't take 9 years to verify if it is her or not. I just can't believe that the university would know about this tape and not make an attempt to verify whether it was her. Especially since this was investigated at the time of a new chancellor and AD. They had no allegiance to Bernie.

 

[Cuse_1999]

They had to verify it was Laurie on the other end with voice technology. It could have been a female friend of Davis pretending to be Laurie. And because Davis and and Laurie were in states where only 1 party had to know the conversation was being recorded its all legal

And it took 9 years to verify? The PS and certainly ESPN has plenty of money to hire a forensics team to verify the tape. Doesn't make sense that ESPN knew about the tape but didn't have it verified

 

[Stern]

And it took 9 years to verify? The PS and certainly ESPN has plenty of money to hire a forensics team to verify the tape. Doesn't make sense that ESPN knew about the tape but didn't have it verified

Yeah but they got to get Laurie to sit down and talk into the technology and get her voice to match it up with the voice on the tape. That's what I am sure the FEDS did the other day at the home.

 

[Cuse_1999]

Yeah but they got to get Laurie to sit down and talk into the technology and get her voice to match it up with the voice on the tape. That's what I am sure the FEDS did the other day at the home.

Certainly, but ESPN had investigative reporters on this. In 2002, this had not been reported to SU yet so the Fine's wouldn't have known anything about it. Wouldn't have been too hard for ESPN to setup and interview with the Fine's to get her voice under the guise of doing a story on JB and his longtime assistant who was a manager for the team JB played on at SU

 

[Stern]

Certainly, but ESPN had investigative reporters on this. In 2002, this had not been reported to SU yet so the Fine's wouldn't have known anything about it. Wouldn't have been too hard for ESPN to setup and interview with the Fine's to get her voice under the guise of doing a story on JB and his longtime assistant who was a manager for the team JB played on at SU

If Laurie Fine was screwing around with a kid(s) I don't think she would have sat down for any interview without knowing something is fishy. They were smart enough to keep this under wraps for many years, I don't see them as falling for anything of that sort

 

[SkanSU]

What the hell differencce when the tape was made!! It's pretty incriminating whenever it was made ...my gooodness!

 

[Stern]

What the hell differencce when the tape was made!! It's pretty incriminating whenever it was made ...my gooodness!

some people are still in a state of denial. They want to spin this into a positive light. There is no spinning this though...it's bad. Very bad!

 

[OrangeHeel]

Yeah but they got to get Laurie to sit down and talk into the technology and get her voice to match it up with the voice on the tape. That's what I am sure the FEDS did the other day at the home.

Haven't heard the tape & I'll assume it's damming, but you overestimate voice recognition technology. It ain't that good.

If the tape is from 2002, and there are some ways to confirm age, then I'm dumbfounded as to why Davis wouldn't have shared with PS &/or ESPN. And if he did share, then I'm even more befuddled as to why they didn't run with the story. It would have been simple to confront Mrs. BF with the tape. It is worth noting that neither the PS or ESPN in their initial explanations of why they didn't proceed back in 2002 mention a tape.

Again, I'll take as a given that tape is damming, but I would want a couple things cleared up about the tape as to it's timing and context.


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[Cuse_1999]

If Laurie Fine was screwing around with a kid(s) I don't think she would have sat down for any interview without knowing something is fishy. They were smart enough to keep this under wraps for many years, I don't see them as falling for anything of that sort

There was no reason to think anything was fishy because she did not know she had been recorded by Davis. I'm sure she has been interviewed plenty of times by media through the years. This would have been no different.

Also, I'm sure her voice is readily available in media archives from interviews through the years. We saw last week in a link an appearance by her on a local TV station. Don't know when that appearance was made, but I'm sure she has been intervied and appeared on video/audio in the past that ESP could have gotten there hands on

 

[Toga]

On a sidenote, Laurie work/volunteered? at the Boys & Girls Club?

Shoot me

 

[jr4750]

Haven't heard the tape & I'll assume it's damming, but you overestimate voice recognition technology. It ain't that good.

If the tape is from 2002, and there are some ways to confirm age, then I'm dumbfounded as to why Davis wouldn't have shared with PS &/or ESPN. And if he did share, then I'm even more befuddled as to why they didn't run with the story. It would have been simple to confront Mrs. BF with the tape. It is worth noting that neither the PS or ESPN in their initial explanations of why they didn't proceed back in 2002 mention a tape.

Again, I'll take as a given that tape is damming, but I would want a couple things cleared up about the tape as to it's timing and context.

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Agree... The fact that this tape didn't blow this story up in 2002 is just weird. He leveled the same accusations then. If he seriously was shunned by both the PS and SPD, then that is a major development and even more proof something terrible was going on with the admins of both entities. As JB said, the PS has no reason to protect anyone and is in the business of selling papers. Once again, it's just weird!

 

[Cuse_1999]

Haven't heard the tape & I'll assume it's damming, but you overestimate voice recognition technology. It ain't that good.

If the tape is from 2002, and there are some ways to confirm age, then I'm dumbfounded as to why Davis wouldn't have shared with PS &/or ESPN. And if he did share, then I'm even more befuddled as to why they didn't run with the story. It would have been simple to confront Mrs. BF with the tape. It is worth noting that neither the PS or ESPN in their initial explanations of why they didn't proceed back in 2002 mention a tape.

Again, I'll take as a given that tape is damming, but I would want a couple things cleared up about the tape as to it's timing and context.

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Agree

 

[BleedsOrange44]

ESPN said it was made on Oct 8th, 2002.

They had to verify it was actually Laurie Fine though and not someone pretending to be Laurie. Which I am sure the FEDS have the technology to do a lot quicker than the local authorities.

Boby Ley just said on SportsCenter they have confirmed it was in fact Laurie Fine.

http://www.nationoforange.com/conte...ne-bobby-davis-could-confirm-allegations-113/

 

[BleedsOrange44]

some people are still in a state of denial. They want to spin this into a positive light. There is no spinning this though...it's bad. Very bad!

Yeah after hearing that tape, things do not look good for the Fine's. It also makes you wonder if both Bernie and Laurie could be brought up on charges. Laurie for allowing it to happen and continue.

 

[Stern]

Yeah after hearing that tape, things do not look good for the Fine's. It also makes you wonder if both Bernie and Laurie could be brought up on charges. Laurie for allowing it to happen and continue.

ESPN just had a legal expert on who said this is now a FEDS matter. The FEDS have different laws and statute of limitations than the state level. And if this was interstate travel even with phone calls, mail, and even internet that changes everything. Not looking good for Bernie right now

 

[dash-30-dash]

FEDS is so much worse then State. First, those guys almost never lose. Second, they have as much $$ as they need. If Bernie is indeed guilty, good.

 

[rrlbees]

The tape was made in 2002 but after he had already gone to SPD and ESPN but before the SU investigation. It may be easy to think it was made recently and is a set up between Davis and Lauri Fine, but she incriminates herself in it also by saying she let it happen. Also, if it was a set up, I would think she would have been even more forthright about what she knew to the point of lies. Don't know, but I am sure the feds will be determining when it was made and if it wasn't a recent set up.

 

[Cuse_1999]

The tape was made in 2002 but after he had already gone to SPD and ESPN but before the SU investigation. It may be easy to think it was made recently and is a set up between Davis and Lauri Fine, but she incriminates herself in it also by saying she let it happen. Also, if it was a set up, I would think she would have been even more forthright about what she knew to the point of lies. Don't know, but I am sure the feds will be determining when it was made and if it wasn't a recent set up.

What am I missing. I thought the original ESPN investigation was in 2003.

 

[BleedsOrange44]

The tape was made in 2002 but after he had already gone to SPD and ESPN but before the SU investigation. It may be easy to think it was made recently and is a set up between Davis and Lauri Fine, but she incriminates herself in it also by saying she let it happen. Also, if it was a set up, I would think she would have been even more forthright about what she knew to the point of lies. Don't know, but I am sure the feds will be determining when it was made and if it wasn't a recent set up.

Completely agree. Laurie Fine could be in a lot of trouble herself here. Feds will, I'm sure, also talk to her in depth about what she knew if they haven't already.

 

[realorange]

How do we even know that the tape was known to anyone but Laurie and Davis in 2002. Unless they told someone, how could SU or anyone else have known about it at that time.

 

[BuffCuse]

What the hell differencce when the tape was made!! It's pretty incriminating whenever it was made ...my gooodness!

Chill. The question was only asked from the standpoint of the university having access to it during their investigation and whether this implicates the university in the same sense as Penn St. Fine is screwed and just as well assuming this really is his wife and anyone who denies that is crazy.