Does Joe Adams keep his job

[Crusty]

zero chance he gets canned after Shafer just took him out of a head coaching position.

True. I suppose he could move things around a bit.

 

[Whitey23]

True. I suppose he could move things around a bit.

Hard to see any movement besides McDonald's departure (not counting people willingly leaving for a diff school).

 

[kcsu]

I wouldn't say that this is a spectacular coaching profile for a D1 offensive line coach...but he had way more coaching experience than Hackett did when he was hired by Marrone to coach the most important position on the field. I guess this is just the way SU does things.

I think that there is a saying. Something along the lines of two wrongs dont make a...

 

[Crusty]

Hard to see any movement besides McDonald's departure (not counting people willingly leaving for a diff school).

Yeah, I know, if someone leaves there might be something that makes sense. The problem is, of course, that he really is very inexperienced at everything. If they could care out a ST coaching job that might be the answer. Acosts has some experience caching WR. Then hire a OL coach with real experience.

 

[CU44SE]

anyone know why pearls left? Im drawing a blank here, was it because he didn't fit in? Because its clear the line was much better last year and we really only lost 1 player. He is currently a player personal scout in Tampa.

 

[Crusty]

anyone know why pearls left? Im drawing a blank here, was it because he didn't fit in? Because its clear the line was much better last year and we really only lost 1 player. He is currently a player personal scout in Tampa.

I thought it was personal as in family.
EDIT: he is a friend of CB who pressed HCSS to hire him.

 

[CU44SE]

I thought it was personal as in family.
EDIT: he is a friend of CB who pressed HCSS to hire him.

Idk, for some reason personal reasons, to me, always comes off as it didn't work or were looking to move in a different direction. You rarely ever here he was fired. He wasn't a big recruiter obviously, I just wonder if maybe thats why they moved on from him. For all I know it could have been personal, maybe his family was living somewhere else but I don't see his initial move to a Canadian football team much better for his family.

 

[kcsu]

The guys could coach

 

[Dr. Bill]

The problem is experience at this level (P5). Only Shafer, Bullough, McDonald and Lea have any outside of SU- and one will be leaving. We are trying to win with coaches that are learning on-the-job. Some even lack real 1A experience. I just don't get it.

Very interesting. contrast this staff with Marrone's. He went heavy on the side of experience, including NFL.

 

[AAM62]

I normally would say that we should give him a chance as well because he could possibly have promise, but the fact of the matter is we will have 5-6 o line recruits this class and we will need to develop a new LT next season. Someone experienced would be preferable and also someone that commands enough respect to get the spelling of his last name right lol

 

[CuseOnly]

Huh? The OL was completely healthy vs a Nova DL we had out weighed by 50lbs/per man and they won that battle. The OL has been fully healthy the last 2 weeks, and have been historically bad. There were 2 games in which the OL was missing more then 1 starter.

The OL was not completely Healthy vs Nova. Robinson was out, Trudo was playing out of position at RG instead of LG and Palmer was at LG.

They were playing banged up all year regardless of the depth chart.

The Starters were:
LT Hickey
LG Trudo
C Miller
RG Robinson
RT Foy

 

[CuseOnly]

Zero experiance at any level coaching an OL. Not pee wee not HS not college. Unreal that he would be provided with this job. I like HCSS and feel as if he is going to do well but Wow. I mean what the hell was he thinking

His name is Joe Adam BTW, no "S" in his name.

 

[anomander]

The OL was not completely Healthy vs Nova. Robinson was out, Trudo was playing out of position at RG instead of LG and Palmer was at LG.

They were playing banged up all year regardless of the depth chart.

The Starters were:
LT Hickey
LG Trudo
C Miller
RG Robinson
RT Foy

Palmer has played in games that Robinson has been healthy. There isn't much of a difference between Robinson and Palmer. The OL production shouldn't fall of a cliff because of that move.

 

[CuseOnly]

Palmer has played in games that Robinson has been healthy. There isn't much of a difference between Robinson and Palmer. The OL production shouldn't fall of a cliff because of that move.

It should when Palmer is playing for Foy at Tackle.

 

[Crusty]

Palmer has played in games that Robinson has been healthy. There isn't much of a difference between Robinson and Palmer. The OL production shouldn't fall of a cliff because of that move.

Your facts were wrong and I think there is a fairly big difference between the two. Palmer is the guy that Aaron Donald knocked on his butt to block the PAT that lost the Pitt game last year. Palmer is a weak link.

 

[Chip]

Your facts were wrong and I think there is a fairly big difference between the two. Palmer is the guy that Aaron Donald knocked on his butt to block the PAT that lost the Pitt game last year. Palmer is a weak link.

While that's certainly true, he was a redshirt freshman, and Aaron Donald knocks everyone on their butt.

Palmer is a guy who needed time in the S&C program. Pretty much all of our OL do.

 

[Crusty]

While that's certainly true, he was a redshirt freshman, and Aaron Donald knocks everyone on their butt.

Palmer is a guy who needed time in the S&C program. Pretty much all of our OL do.

Palmer is 303 and Nick is 279. Palmer is just not much good. I think you just have this one wrong.

 

[Chip]

Palmer is 303 and Nick is 279. Palmer is just not much good. I think you just have this one wrong.

I'm not saying he's good. I'm just saying he needs more time. Strikes me as the type who probably shouldn't be playing until his 4th and 5th seasons. He still may end up being not good.

 

[Crusty]

I'm not saying he's good. I'm just saying he needs more time. Strikes me as the type who probably shouldn't be playing until his 4th and 5th seasons. He still may end up being not good.

Sure, that may be correct, but this year he was a poor sub for Nick. Many of these guys played wounded like Foy who played on one leg all year.

 

[SmilinBob]

Is Adam a good teacher and do the players on the o-line execute his/OC's plan? The in season thing from going lean and ready to speed up to what Lester seemed to want to do may have had X effect on this line. The speed up to slow down offense McDonald had going never made sense to me and this whole offense just looked like someone trying to put a square into a circle.

 

[CuseOnly]

Sure, that may be correct, but this year he was a poor sub for Nick. Many of these guys played wounded like Foy who played on one leg all year.

Funny thing about that is that a lot of people were down on Robinson when he was recruited and thought they only reason he got a scholly was because he was a local kid.

 

[nzm136]

No chance ... Looking at three changes to O staff and one to D

McDonald
Adams
Smith

Reed

Lester should probably make that list. Our QB development hasn't been good, and it's not like Lester is a good OC, either. At the very least, Lester should be demoted back to QB's and recruiting.

 

[nzm136]

Very interesting. contrast this staff with Marrone's. He went heavy on the side of experience, including NFL.

The timing and circumstances in which HCDM and HCSS were very different.

 

[Crusty]

The timing and circumstances in which HCDM and HCSS were very different.

Yes, but he owns it from here.

 

[Willy75]

I'm not saying he's good. I'm just saying he needs more time. Strikes me as the type who probably shouldn't be playing until his 4th and 5th seasons. He still may end up being not good.

Saying that he (and Shafer) need more time reminds me of what Denzel said to the Mexican police captain in Man on Fire.