Donnie Freeman in the portal

[BrookhavenCuse]

There were things I was holding my nose about Hodgson, too. I held out hope when it was clear Hodgson wasn't the guy that we would move on to somebody exciting. Now, I'd rather we got Hodgson and just collectively held our nose while he was here.

I'm sure I've made my position known, but I'll repeat it one last time: I'm certainly not going to argue that Providence has been worse than Syracuse, I'm arguing that this doesn't matter in the era of basketball that we find ourselves in. We seem to all collectively agree that any SEC is a step up and a better job, because they have more money. Our history is better than most SEC schools, but it just doesnt matter anymore.

I'll say a nice thing about Gerry as a coach. I really do like the staff he's putting together.

If anyone wants to keep talking (or fighting) about it, I welcome any private messages. I apologize for getting Freeman's thread so off track

Maybe Donnie will end up in Little Rhody with your buddy Hodgson, wouldn’t that be karma?

 

[SDjohn]

I think most people would agree. Freeman was by far the most talented player on last years team.

And we should all be able to agree that his motor was in question
He was horrible defensively.
He couldn’t handle a double team to save his life. He was too perimeter oriented
He took bad shots time after time
I never wanna see him try a skip pass ever again.

I’m glad he’s moving on, maybe another coach can get the best out of him and if so watch out. But more than likely he’s not gonna play to his pay…again.

 

[Cuse12]

We need a clean break from most of the previous guys. Donnie just never made sense to fit into this new era with Gmac. Not once did I think “ya that’s exactly the type of player Gmac wants”. Donnie would be perfect at like Duke in a role like Maliq brown (which is ironic cause they couldn’t be more opposite types of players, but similar playing time and off the bench) just a piece of the puzzle, and he would excel with others opening up opportunities for him. He has proven you cannot build a team around him, at least not yet.

 

[Starman]

Maybe Donnie will end up in Little Rhody with your buddy Hodgson, wouldn’t that be karma?

K.

 

[granthath9]

K.

Got caught with your pants down

 

[Nicknack]

I think most people would agree. Freeman was by far the most talented player on last years team.

And we should all be able to agree that his motor was in question
He was horrible defensively.
He couldn’t handle a double team to save his life. He was too perimeter oriented
He took bad shots time after time
I never wanna see him try a skip pass ever again.

I’m glad he’s moving on, maybe another coach can get the best out of him and if so watch out. But more than likely he’s not gonna play to his pay…again.

I agree with all of those things. I just think he's a player who wants to score without much contact (perimeter play, fade away jumpers, etc.). If he was willing to assert himself more, he could be really dangerous. A lot of people on this board have said that a better coach (than Red) might be able to get him to play better ball. I don't disagree, but if you're a finesse guy who plays kinda soft, the coach might not make much of a difference unless he truly buys into it.

 

[SDjohn]

I agree with all of those things. I just think he's a player who wants to score without much contact (perimeter play, fade away jumpers, etc.). If he was willing to assert himself more, he could be really dangerous. A lot of people on this board have said that a better coach (than Red) might be able to get him to play better ball. I don't disagree, but if you're a finesse guy who plays kinda soft, the coach might not make much of a difference unless he truly buys into it.

Agree 1000%!

 

[Newhouser]

He will be better at a place where he's not the lead dog.

 

[granthath9]

He will be better at a place where he's not the lead dog.

Agree with this. He will play well off of a true center and elite point guard like a Kentucky type school should have.

 

[Starman]

Got caught with your pants down

Nah, it was just the longest response that he deserved. I'm working on listening when people tell me that they're not worth talking to.

Again, if anyone wants to keep this going, go ahead and shoot me a message. There's no need to clog up the Freeman thread with this.

 

[Newhouser]

Agree with this. He will play well off of a true center and elite point guard like a Kentucky type school should have.

Unless the elite point guard is Nait George.

 

[Antiprodigy]

Nah, it was just the longest response that he deserved. I'm working on listening when people tell me that they're not worth talking to.

Again, if anyone wants to keep this going, go ahead and shoot me a message. There's no need to clog up the Freeman thread with this.

The rumor going around was that Hodgson did not pass the vetting process. Closets sometimes don't hide things well enough.

 

[PeteCalvin]

He certainly did. Not his smartest moment.

Edit: I have no inside information. But I facepalmed when I heard the quote. Talk about burning a bridge.

Which quote was that? I’ve lost track of all the JB banter over the past two months.

 

[LpoolNative]

The rumor going around was that Hodgson did not pass the vetting process. Closets sometimes don't hide things well enough.

So he is a douche like we thought

 

[IthacaMatt]

Additionally, 48-10 is Syracuse's record vs Providence all time. Including 21-0 during the 1980s. they went an entire decade in the same conference as us and took a goose egg. We also won the final 9 games in the series.

The dominance was just beginning to end...

Unfortunately, our first 10 years against UConn looked a lot like that, too.
Didn't quite turn out the same.

 

[OHIORANGES]

I think most people would agree. Freeman was by far the most talented player on last years team.

And we should all be able to agree that his motor was in question
He was horrible defensively.
He couldn’t handle a double team to save his life. He was too perimeter oriented
He took bad shots time after time
I never wanna see him try a skip pass ever again.

I’m glad he’s moving on, maybe another coach can get the best out of him and if so watch out. But more than likely he’s not gonna play to his pay…again.

Big talent
Little heart

 

[IthacaMatt]

I agree with all of those things. I just think he's a player who wants to score without much contact (perimeter play, fade away jumpers, etc.). If he was willing to assert himself more, he could be really dangerous. A lot of people on this board have said that a better coach (than Red) might be able to get him to play better ball. I don't disagree, but if you're a finesse guy who plays kinda soft, the coach might not make much of a difference unless he truly buys into it.

That's why I insist that he's a three. You nailed it.

 

[McCuse]

You are making the argument, and you are entitled to your opinion, that a school that has been to what? One sweet 16 in the last 25 years, is an equal job as Syracuse because one guy decided he wanted to coach there instead of at Syracuse. When we don't know if that guy was even offerd the job at Syracuse. P.C. hasn't been an equal job to Syracuse since the 70's.

Ernie D, from the key, never misses, always swishes

 

[Cheriehoop]

Articles are naming every top program I guess.

Duke Blue Devils can steal another Syracuse transfer after Maliq Brown

This worked out nicely for Duke once before.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So he is a douche like we thought

JB? Yeah, he can be.

That's the rumor I heard.

 

[Bulldog04]

Articles are naming every top program I guess.

Duke Blue Devils can steal another Syracuse transfer after Maliq Brown

This worked out nicely for Duke once before.

sports.yahoo.com

now that’s a system that works perfectly for him. Doesn’t need to be the main guy. Will get a ton of easy buckets. Will win a lot so he won’t get mad. Makes a lot of sense

 

[capeorange]

Articles are naming every top program I guess.

Duke Blue Devils can steal another Syracuse transfer after Maliq Brown

This worked out nicely for Duke once before.

sports.yahoo.com

Donnie's agent must have an inside friend at yahoo sports pumping him up.
Maliq was under rated and we wanted him to stay. I'd be surprised if dook went after Donnie.

 

[tptcuse]

Which quote was that? I’ve lost track of all the JB banter over the past two months.

On a national show, he said the reason Red didn’t succeed was because his two best players played terribly. Basically blamed Donnie and JJ (presumably) for the bad season.

 

[nocohalo]

I guess I just don't...care? Best stretch this team played was with him off the court. I don't care about potential, floor or ceiling or any of that crap. I care about results.

 

[GHLF]

JB already did that and that really upset the Freeman camp.

He honestly does not have a filter. He certainly did not tell a lie. He certainly could have had decorum as well and let GM frame that discussion. Missed shots are one thing, motor issues and becoming a black hole are another. Kingz was by far our most mature and best player last year especially as the year progressed. Was not a good team, some good players but honestly a terrible team. Truly sad, over though. I hope NK appeal gets approved and he can come back here. However you can only have so many at the 2/3 position. What about White? he will improve under AO, I hope he knows that.