East West Shrine Bowl: Jan 30, 8 PM

[RF2044]

Meeks just locked up a corner physically run blocking.

Meeks checks every NFL box.

I think he ends up being drafted, and has a good chance to stick.

 

[Qbobby]

I imagine NFL teams aren't swayed by the commentating. Us fans are, myself included. But they're probably not.

I imagine the scouts and others are watching game film and maybe some of the tv angles. But I am sure they do not give one flying frack about what the commentators had to say, and I'd be surprised if they watch any of the live feed it has the sound on.

 

[Nahson]

Meeks checks every NFL box.

I think he ends up being drafted, and has a good chance to stick.

I've been praying for SU to get a physical, gritty, possession receiver like Meeks since I started understanding football (watching and being to young to understand). I'm really grateful for the year he spent here. It was so nice to finally see that come to fruition.

 

[ArchDuke]

Health I am sure. Not getting hurt before the draft. Likely was told all he needed to hear during practices.

I was told by someone at the game that would know, that Kyle was planning on playing...right up until he was given a specific reason not to. Take that as you will. I'm not an insider, I just happened to be in the right place at the right time to meet some very nice people.

 

[ArchDuke]

Also, the whole game Kyle and Oronde were side by side wherever they went on the sidelines. I thought it was pretty cool and showed the bond they must have made this season.

We tried to get autographs but only one side of the stadium was open, which wasn't the East's side. After the game, many of the West players tossed personal items to the fans. Maybe two East players came over. At one point however, Oronde came out of the tunnel and walked 2/3rds of the way over with a football. I tried to get his attention in our Orange gear, but he tossed the ball up into the stands an aisle away. Regardless, we still had fun and my son wants to go to more games, so it's a win overall.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Generally when that happens in a game like this, teams that are very serious on drafting them have asked them not to play.

The work for this game is put in with the meetings and the practices and the drills.

McCord and others that didn’t play were probably asked by NFL teams not to play

Teams can say anything i.e, "we're going to draft you if you're available..." but it means nothing. A lot can happen between now and draft day. Players opting out probably did so based on decisions with their respective camps and feedback they were getting from teams. I don’t think they sat because teams specifically asked them to sit out. I think it's more of a collective decision by their camps based on the way they think they performed in practices, drills and what they were hearing from teams.

 

[upperdeck]

One team saying something you cant rely on. Drafts change so fast.

If you get a handful of teams with good feed back you can start to feel better.

Practices went well. not sure how the game would help him. Blocking was bad on many plays.

 

[RF2044]

NFL scouts have Kyle McCord flying up draft boards

Zach Wolchuk of ‘Lights Out Sports TV’ joins Brandon London ahead of Thursday night’s East-West Shrine Game to share his observations from the week, including the impressive performance…

nypost.com

 

[richmondcuse03]

I think Kyle has some strong indications of how high he's going and wisely didn't play. I expect to see him go in the 2nd round at worst. I think same with OG who is the first of our guys off the board.

 

[SWC75]

2025 Shrine Bowl: Ranking the top performers, including Syracuse QB Kyle McCord

Here are the top performers from the Shrine Bowl game and the preceding practices

www.cbssports.com

"McCord's processing and anticipation is much improved as his footwork, both inside and outside of the pocket. McCord told CBS his footwork was a major emphasis for him this past offseason. The football had the most zip coming out of his hands of any quarterback to participate in the week's practices and games. "

 

[Irishsecra1]

I watched the first half of the game and neither quarterback actually wowed the crowd.
Each had interceptions and fumbles. I believe there were 6 or 7 turnovers in the first half.

And the teams made no sense. Pittsburgh was on the West Team. North Dakota State was on the East
Team. I think the RB star on the East Team was from New Mexico and Arizona.

 

[florange44]

2025 Shrine Bowl: Ranking the top performers, including Syracuse QB Kyle McCord

Here are the top performers from the Shrine Bowl game and the preceding practices

www.cbssports.com

"McCord's processing and anticipation is much improved as his footwork, both inside and outside of the pocket. McCord told CBS his footwork was a major emphasis for him this past offseason. The football had the most zip coming out of his hands of any quarterback to participate in the week's practices and games. "

So does Coach Nunzio get some credit for Kyles improvement? If so, another nice selling point to use on the recruiting trail.

 

[cayugacuse]

Also, the whole game Kyle and Oronde were side by side wherever they went on the sidelines. I thought it was pretty cool and showed the bond they must have made this season.

We tried to get autographs but only one side of the stadium was open, which wasn't the East's side. After the game, many of the West players tossed personal items to the fans. Maybe two East players came over. At one point however, Oronde came out of the tunnel and walked 2/3rds of the way over with a football. I tried to get his attention in our Orange gear, but he tossed the ball up into the stands an aisle away. Regardless, we still had fun and my son wants to go to more games, so it's a win overall.

Enjoyed your two posts ArchDuke. Although I was disappointed, they didn't play, I get it.

 

[tino]

Generally when that happens in a game like this, teams that are very serious on drafting them have asked them not to play.

The work for this game is put in with the meetings and the practices and the drills.

McCord and others that didn’t play were probably asked by NFL teams not to play

OK thankyou

 

[tino]

I wonder why in the broadcast they didn't talk to people who opted out when they are high profile guys who had great weeks of practice.

They had tons of time

Broadcasters were terrible. Just talking talking talking

 

[tino]

I want to know why Diggs and Clark didn’t play. Injury?

True me too

 

[IthacaMatt]

Accept an invitation to play, get hosted and coached by the bowl organization for a week, and then not play in the game; is this the next step in CF?

It's like college basketball players going to the pre-Draft Camp. There is a similar process. You practice, you do interviews, you get measured, you do drills.

If you show enough to get a guarantee from a team, you often see them shut it down. Not any different.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Teams can say anything i.e, "we're going to draft you if you're available..." but it means nothing. A lot can happen between now and draft day. Players opting out probably did so based on decisions with their respective camps and feedback they were getting from teams. I don’t think they sat because teams specifically asked them to sit out. I think it's more of a collective decision by their camps based on the way they think they performed in practices, drills and what they were hearing from teams.

His agent is probably getting feedback that Kyle is probably 4th best QB in the draft, looking like a 4th round pick, maybe a bit higher.

 

[SWC75]

His agent is probably getting feedback that Kyle is probably 4th best QB in the draft, looking like a 4th round pick, maybe a bit higher.

I guess not too many teams need QBs.

 

[SmilinBob]

His agent is probably getting feedback that Kyle is probably 4th best QB in the draft, looking like a 4th round pick, maybe a bit higher.

That's the thing about the NFL draft, when there is a shortage of quality players at a certain position teams start to panic when the list gets shorter and draft earlier than they anticipated because of need.

Curious how the free agent market is for QB's as well. If that's low then Kyle is sitting in the cat bird seat.

 

[sufandu]

I guess not too many teams need QBs.

Or it's not considered a strong class.

 

[RyanCuse44]

It's like college basketball players going to the pre-Draft Camp. There is a similar process. You practice, you do interviews, you get measured, you do drills.

If you show enough to get a guarantee from a team, you often see them shut it down. Not any different.

Then why even have a game you know.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I guess not too many teams need QBs.

Only certain talents are deemed 1st round-worthy. They seem to be the dual threat guys with big arms.
Guys lacking that elite athleticism fall into 4-6th round range. This is considered a weak draft for QBs.

 

[IthacaMatt]

That's the thing about the NFL draft, when there is a shortage of quality players at a certain position teams start to panic when the list gets shorter and draft earlier than they anticipated because of need.

Curious how the free agent market is for QB's as well. If that's low then Kyle is sitting in the cat bird seat.

I think that in the last 10 years, we (and every NFL GM) has seen teams reach for a player who fills a need without really being objective enough about their potential.

I could name a dozen QBs - Zach Wilson as 2nd overall pick by the Jets 4 years ago; Trey Lance to the 49ers with the next pick; Daniel Jones to the Giants with the 6th overall pick; Mitch Trubisky to the Bears. So many reaches.

That's why GMs are picking OTs, Edge rushers, lock down cornerbacks in those first 3 rounds if the QB talent is not elite.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Then why even have a game you know.

Because those who don't "wow" them in the practices can still have an opportunity out on the field.