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We beat three teams this year that we would have beaten (did beat) last year by more points. We are currently getting exposed against a mediocre USF team.

This was my worry. Other than the LSU game that we expected to lose anyways, our toughest games were to come. Our "vaunted" run defense exposed. Our bad secondary confirmed.

Positivity sucked out of the season. Anticipating 4-8, maybe 5-7.
 
We beat three teams this year that we would have beaten (did beat) last year by more points. We are currently getting exposed against a mediocre USF team.

This was my worry. Other than the LSU game that we expected to lose anyways, our toughest games were to come. Our "vaunted" run defense exposed. Our bad secondary confirmed.

Positivity sucked out of the season. Anticipating 4-8, maybe 5-7.
B.C. lost to Wake 3-0. N.C State and I guess maybe Pitt are winnable. I don't think we are this bad. Bad, but not this Bad.
 
B.C. lost to Wake 3-0. N.C State and I guess maybe Pitt are winnable. I don't think we are this bad. Bad, but not this Bad.

BC is so bad on offense. If that game ends up being important to get to a bowl, which is very well may, I like our odds. Otherwise, would be an awful loss.

Granted a lot can change and BC is decent on defense... 3-0 to wake.
 
Horrible effort today, all the good will from the Lsu games goes away.
You are 100% right. This team just lost the casual/bandwagon fans today. Clark will be coming to a half filled dome to see us take on Pitt. Crushing defeat for the program.
 
This might be the worst loss coming out of a bye. For a defensive minded coach, USF had two weapons. The qb and Mack. To let them beat you is inexcusable. Gotta force him to pass. Shafers worst game to date... And very telling.

Loses like this are the ones that are pointed to when they hand you the pink slip.
 
This might be the worst loss coming out of a bye. For a defensive minded coach, USF had two weapons. The qb and Mack. To let them beat you is inexcusable. Gotta force him to pass. Shafers worst game to date... And very telling.
Only Mac. Their Quarterback actually is pretty sucky, well, until today.
 
The consolation is that it's not a talent issue at least on offense. We lost this game in the first half due to poor play calling. SFU was crashing the edges to stop the option yet we kept doing it over and over and over. Lester needed to go deep off of play action in the first half but he was too conservative. We blew our chance to take the lead and left the d out there too long. Game over.

Given hoe poor our pass d is we need to score a ton of points to win games. The sooner HCSS and Lester recognize that the better. We can't rely on grinding out wins... We need to play every game like the 2md half.
 
We're young. Inconsistent on both sides of the ball. Today was a cluster . But the next game, young guys might look like all Americans. That's the nature of playing freshman.

The trick will be getting better and keeping their heads right. UVa is a very winnable game on the road. Let's see if they respond.
 
Only Mac. Their Quarterback actually is pretty sucky, well, until today.

Pretty sure he's talking about the QB run, which is how they got every 1st down in the first 2.5 qtrs. So ya, it's inexcusable. I know 1dimensional offenses can be tough for college Ds if you're dealing with Cam Newton, but USF? Ouch.
 
USF has a lot of good young talent, they played hard and won. Syracuse has a lot of good young talent, they played hard and lost. We will win more games than we loose this year.
 
Given hoe poor our pass d is we need to score a ton of points to win games. The sooner HCSS and Lester recognize that the better. We can't rely on grinding out wins... We need to play every game like the 2md half.
Our defense gave up 35 points in the 2nd half. We will not win if they do that in any half or really in the whole game in the ACC.
 
USF has a lot of good young talent, they played hard and won. Syracuse has a lot of good young talent, they played hard and lost. We will win more games than we loose this year.

So you think we go 7-5 or greater? Would you like to place a wager on that?
 
So you think we go 7-5 or greater? Would you like to place a wager on that?

I'd wager that you have no idea what will happen. Relax with all crap. We lost on the road after a freshman qb came back from injury. Let's see what happens. If you think we don't have a possibility of a surprise win then why bother watching
 
We're young. Inconsistent on both sides of the ball. Today was a cluster . But the next game, young guys might look like all Americans. That's the nature of playing freshman.

The trick will be getting better and keeping their heads right. UVa is a very winnable game on the road. Let's see if they respond.

The coaches aren't young. Let's see how they respond at UVa because they weren't very good today.
 
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Full_Rebar said:
The coaches aren't young. Let's see how they respond at UVa because they weren't very good today.

Agreed. But how much do you attribute to one or the other?
 
I'd wager that you have no idea what will happen. Relax with all crap. We lost on the road after a freshman qb came back from injury. Let's see what happens. If you think we don't have a possibility of a surprise win then why bother watching

Ok I bet 3-9 to 5-7. That's still two opportunities for wins vs an ACC schedule. Sorry that's what I see and really what I saw from the beginning. We all expected 3-1 vs this joke of an early season schedule. Other than keeping it close vs LSU what did you see that made you think differently? We beat CMU 40-3 last year and had to beat them in OT this year and you somehow thought this year was going to be different?
 
Ozcuse said:
Ok I bet 3-9 to 5-7. That's still two opportunities for wins vs an ACC schedule. Sorry that's what I see and really what I saw from the beginning. We all expected 3-1 vs this joke of an early season schedule. Other than keeping it close vs LSU what did you see that made you think differently? We beat CMU 40-3 last year and had to beat them in OT this year and you somehow thought this year was going to be different?

You must not watch other ACC games.

- UVa has put up multiple games like we played
- BC doesn't play offense
- NC State is a paper tiger and looks bad to mediocre
- Louisville is beatable
- Pitt has a good defense, but are not great at offense

Clemson and FSU look out of our league - but we are young and inconsistent - but have talent to make it fun on O.
 
You must not watch other ACC games.

- UVa has put up multiple games like we played
- BC doesn't play offense
- NC State is a paper tiger and looks bad to mediocre
- Louisville is beatable
- Pitt has a good defense, but are not great at offense

Clemson and FSU look out of our league - but we are young and inconsistent - but have talent to make it fun on O.

And I've watched other USF games where they looked easily beatable. Then we played them.
 

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