FSUMBBHCSH

[MSOrange]

I'm going to guess he's grown from that mistake.

He may very well have but if I'm ADJW, I wouldn't be too excited too hire a guy who screwed my school over with unethical behavior.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like for folks that have a problem with Pitino but are now interested in Holloway.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like for folks that have a problem with Pitino but are now interested in Holloway.

I can tell you what the Venn diagram of one fan is that has no problem with Pitino and no problem with Holloway.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I'd like to see the Venn diagram of fans who think "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" and fans who wanted JB fired 10 years ago for cheating.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I'd like to see the Venn diagram of fans who think "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" and fans who wanted JB fired 10 years ago for cheating.

JB needs to be fired for getting caught cheating ...

 

[hoopsupstate]

If Willard heads to Maryland, Holloway will be at Seton Hall.

Maybe not. He put Seton Hall on three years probation and cost them money. It would be a bad look, but winning sometimes supersedes integrity.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'd like to see the Venn diagram of fans who think "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" and fans who wanted JB fired 10 years ago for cheating.

I can tell you what the Venn diagram is for one fan that says if ya ain't cheatin' ya ain't tryin' and that said when JB got busted ten years ago that we didn't cheat enough.

Edited to add: lol the receipts on this for me are funny. If you search for times I said "we didn't cheat enough" on this board there are like 10 hits.

 

[MSOrange]

I can tell you what the Venn diagram is for one fan that says if ya ain't cheatin' ya ain't tryin' and that said when JB got busted ten years ago that we didn't cheat enough.

Is that just your sports philosophy or general life philosophy?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Is that just your sports philosophy or general life philosophy?

College sports, exclusively.

 

[Horn88]

He may very well have but if I'm ADJW, I wouldn't be too excited too hire a guy who screwed my school over with unethical behavior.

What evidence is there that our athletic department is bothered by this? Our current coach did this twice and kept his job and it took some pretty embarrassing media attention for him to part ways with Hillsman.

Not saying anything about whether I care or not but just going by some fairly consistent decisions by our athletic department leadership.

 

[MSOrange]

What evidence is there that our athletic department is bothered by this? Our current coach did this twice and kept his job and it took some pretty embarrassing media attention for him to part ways with Hillsman.

Not saying anything about whether I care or not but just going by some fairly consistent decisions by our athletic department leadership.

Not saying we haven't done some bad things, but we've never been accused of tampering with another school's players. Maybe I'm wrong and ADJW just laughs about that silly Shaheen and his shenanigans now, but I would be surprised.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Part II of this. The disappearance of Taurean Thompson. He wasn't particularly interested in playing defense or rebounding but he had a real good game on offense

He was probably one of the many really tall dudes who just doesn’t like playing basketball that much but they sort of just get assigned it

 

[Horn88]

Not saying we haven't done some bad things, but we've never been accused of tampering with another school's players. Maybe I'm wrong and ADJW just laughs about that silly Shaheen and his shenanigans now, but I would be surprised.

Lol yea I mean I think your post says something about how twisted the scope is in which people view college athletics. If I compare them in a real world context I think some of the things tolerated with Hillsman aren’t all that close to trying to get a 19 year old to come play for your college team instead of the one he’s on.

JB has his own “shenanigans” that again don’t seemed to have really garnered any actual repercussions from this leadership. And his program’s were directly tied to the academic piece of the vaunted student-athlete experience.

Again, not saying I really care much one way or the other but just think it’s funny when people try to pretend like our AD is above certain things.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

FSUMBBHCSH- Florida State University Men's Basketball Head Coach Shaheen Holloway?

I guess he's going to Tallahassee!

 

[PauliePeppas]

Willard to Maryland...Shaheen to SHU

Will be done by Monday

 

[OrangeDW]

Jason Hart was the better player in the Big East from 97-00, and would be the better coach for SU from 2022-???

 

[Bayside44]

He can keep his UA sneakers.

 

[Willy75]

He can keep his UA sneakers.

It’ll be interesting to see how his recruiting goes once he’s outside metro NY. My guess is not so great in the medium to long term.

 

[Bayside44]

It’ll be interesting to see how his recruiting goes once he’s outside metro NY. My guess is not so great in the medium to long term.

PG County is so loaded with players. Maryland needs to invest some in its hoops facilities.

 

[JaySU22]

I would not be excited with this hire if I was a Twerps fan. You’re hiring a jerk with zero ncaa tourney success

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Holloway's rate went up again.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I'd like to see the Venn diagram of fans who think "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" and fans who wanted JB fired 10 years ago for cheating.

It wasn’t the cheating that bothered me. All schools have to do it to varying extents if they want to win. the system in place at SU clearly didn’t cheat smart enough. That’s on the administration to make sure the dots and tees are crossed so that any infractions can’t be traced. It’s also on JB for being caustic with ncaa public relations because it hurt our program in the end. Don’t bite the hand that feeds.

 

[SUFan44]

SU can do better

I would take him.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like for folks that have a problem with Pitino but are now interested in Holloway.

Can we get a “likes multiplier function”.

 

[Trueblue25]

Willard’s a loser.

Thats all.