Class of 2020 G Kadary Richmond (NY/Brewster Academy) Portal to St Johns

[djcon57]

And to comment on this, this is insane to me. I'm intrigued what kind of seasons with that high of a number we've seen here.

Maliq is an awful loss. Hey, at least Kadary isnt going to Duke too.

The scale works better in the NBA where you can compare players easier, but the general point remains.

There's some weird ones. Alan Griffin had an unreasonably high # due to him playing big mins when he played well and pulled when he sucked...so his metrics made him look amazing Per 100 possessions.

 

[AZOrange]

Take him in a hot second. But this car is Leffews

 

[TheCusian]

My Delayed Epiphany:
Love JAB, but man did he blow it big time w/Kadary. Really hurt us in the long run.
HOF Coach had no peer. There was no one to say to him, "Listen Jim, this is a guy you don't want to lose."

Kadary didn’t want to work to win. That’s a fatal flaw in all sports. JAB pushed and he didn’t respond

 

[hoopsupstate]

You forgot to use the sarcasm font…At least I hope you did.

I’m not. I don’t want him. He only plays if the ball is in his hands.

 

[Orangezoo]

What’s weird is Kadary won an NIT title with Seton Hall in 3 yrs and helped SU make the sweet 16 in his one year at SU off the bench. Talented kid but made a bad choice in where he transferred to.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I understand the original reason people underrated him. I don't really understand the ongoing reason to.

I don’t think I underrate him. I had a lot of effusive things to say about him when he was with us. And with him at Hall, in the limited amount I saw, as I said—he did a lot of fantastic things and could dominate in stretches. But, also, as said, he was lethargic and uninvolved in other stretches, and the optics of his game are… weird and uncommon. He looks like he’s doing the least amount of work possible. Which is strange in that he can affect the game so significantly when he is doing work.

I mentioned my (congenital?) stamina issue. He plays the way I would have to play—it would look like Conservation Mode. I will always wonder if that’s at the Heart of it.

 

[JustPherU]

Only need 10,000 fans to donate 100 bucks

 

[phil77]

Only need 10,000 fans to donate 100 bucks

I mean we had like 10-13 do 100 dollars each for Leffew so I am sure we can get at least 15 for Richmond

 

[djcon57]

I don’t think I underrate him. I had a lot of effusive things to say about him when he was with us. And with him at Hall, in the limited amount I saw, as I said—he did a lot of fantastic things and could dominate in stretches. But, also, as said, he was lethargic and uninvolved in other stretches, and the optics of his game are… weird and uncommon. He looks like he’s doing the least amount of work possible. Which is strange in that he can affect the game so significantly when he is doing work.

I mentioned my (congenital?) stamina issue. He plays the way I would have to play—it would look like Conservation Mode. I will always wonder if that’s at the Heart of it.

Yeah, wasn't suggesting you personally necessarily.

I get your point, but my counter is the lethargic stretches, etc. Those are build in to the numbers he produces. If he wasn't effective, we'd see that. Now can you suggest he isn't as good as he could/should be? Absolutely.

 

[Orangezoo]

Going rate for All Americans is $2-5M. It's a continuum.
He's going to get at least $500-600K, I would guess.
If some big money team sees him as the "missing piece" to a Final Four type of season, he might get it.
He was an all conference Big East player, wasn't he?

 

[two3zone]

What’s weird is Kadary won an NIT title with Seton Hall in 3 yrs and helped SU make the sweet 16 in his one year at SU off the bench. Talented kid but made a bad choice in where he transferred to.

It was closer to home, may have been exactly where he wanted to be. He could've left.

 

[Sbucketball]

Hypothetical question:

Seems like the plan is to keep salaries somewhat even for the starters or main guys so people don’t get upset if one person is making double or triple other starters.

And in this thread posters have commented someone like Kadary for close to 1m would be worth it for a team that that could turn into a contender if they add a star pg.

So the hypo is: if Syracuse finds itself in that situation, is it going to spend the 750-1m on the star and try to hang a banner, or is it going to get a cheaper option for 300k and be content just trying to make a S16?

 

[two3zone]

I don’t think I underrate him. I had a lot of effusive things to say about him when he was with us. And with him at Hall, in the limited amount I saw, as I said—he did a lot of fantastic things and could dominate in stretches. But, also, as said, he was lethargic and uninvolved in other stretches, and the optics of his game are… weird and uncommon. He looks like he’s doing the least amount of work possible. Which is strange in that he can affect the game so significantly when he is doing work.

I mentioned my (congenital?) stamina issue. He plays the way I would have to play—it would look like Conservation Mode. I will always wonder if that’s at the Heart of it.

I chalk this up as one of the players that make really elite things look basic. Kadary does this with his positioning, timing, changing of speeds, and even his skills. He doesn't look as fast as Judah but why is Kadary at the rim with an easy layup when getting past his defender but Judah is face to face getting bumped and fouled or jacking up a shot? I watched all of those NIT games and there wasnt a second I questioned his motor. I doubt Danny Hurley doesn't question it either.

 

[two3zone]

Hypothetical question:

Seems like the plan is to keep salaries somewhat even for the starters or main guys so people don’t get upset if one person is making double or triple other starters.

And in this thread posters have commented someone like Kadary for close to 1m would be worth it for a team that that could turn into a contender if they add a star pg.

So the hypo is: if Syracuse finds itself in that situation, is it going to spend the 750-1m on the star and try to hang a banner, or is it going to get a cheaper option for 300k and be content just trying to make a S16?

If its not for a bigger banner then I think I'll accept we're not big time basketball.

 

[kcsu]

My Delayed Epiphany:
Love JAB, but man did he blow it big time w/Kadary. Really hurt us in the long run.
HOF Coach had no peer. There was no one to say to him, "Listen Jim, this is a guy you don't want to lose."

Total . Huge loss

 

[Orangezoo]

It was closer to home, may have been exactly where he wanted to be. He could've left.

Oh no doubt - just had he gone to a bigger program he might be already in the league

 

[two3zone]

What if Adam Witestman out of spite ponied up the money for Kadary and we're lead to the title. With the flex of delivering the title to us he announces that he's investing a half a billion dollars into the Le Moyne basketball program and will turn it into the Mecca of college basketball driving us into irrelevance and the university implodes and is absorbed by Le Moyne.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Hypothetical question:

Seems like the plan is to keep salaries somewhat even for the starters or main guys so people don’t get upset if one person is making double or triple other starters.

And in this thread posters have commented someone like Kadary for close to 1m would be worth it for a team that that could turn into a contender if they add a star pg.

So the hypo is: if Syracuse finds itself in that situation, is it going to spend the 750-1m on the star and try to hang a banner, or is it going to get a cheaper option for 300k and be content just trying to make a S16?

i dont know where people are getting these precise figures from

can anyone share a link??

and i think the way youve framed the decision making process is waaay off

fro one, players dont just pick the highest bidder...its a mutal dance where both sides make choices

and, two, this paradigm youve described is simply not accurate...donnie freeman is literally the higest ranked recruit since carmelo...so...there arent any payers imo that are off the table right now,,...if anything NIL is benefitting a brand school like SU, imo

 

[IthacaMatt]

Hypothetical question:

Seems like the plan is to keep salaries somewhat even for the starters or main guys so people don’t get upset if one person is making double or triple other starters.

And in this thread posters have commented someone like Kadary for close to 1m would be worth it for a team that that could turn into a contender if they add a star pg.

So the hypo is: if Syracuse finds itself in that situation, is it going to spend the 750-1m on the star and try to hang a banner, or is it going to get a cheaper option for 300k and be content just trying to make a S16?

Nope. Richmond isn't worth that much, IMO. At least, not to us.

 

[orangefog]

What if Adam Witestman out of spite ponied up the money for Kadary and we're lead to the title. With the flex of delivering the title to us he announces that he's investing a half a billion dollars into the Le Moyne basketball program and will turn it into the Mecca of college basketball driving us into irrelevance and the university implodes and is absorbed by Le Moyne.

Could happen

 

[Sbucketball]

Nope. Richmond isn't worth that much, IMO. At least, not to us.

Not specific to Richmond. Just asking if there was a star for 750-1m in the portal and Red was certain he would elevate us to contend for a national championship, would we figure out a way to do it.

 

[Sbucketball]

i dont know where people are getting these precise figures from

can anyone share a link??

and i think the way youve framed the decision making process is waaay off

fro one, players dont just pick the highest bidder...its a mutal dance where both sides make choices

and, two, this paradigm youve described is simply not accurate...donnie freeman is literally the higest ranked recruit since carmelo...so...there arent any payers imo that are off the table right now,,...if anything NIL is benefitting a brand school like SU, imo

It’s a hypothetical question.

 

[orange79]

What if Adam Witestman out of spite ponied up the money for Kadary and we're lead to the title. With the flex of delivering the title to us he announces that he's investing a half a billion dollars into the Le Moyne basketball program and will turn it into the Mecca of college basketball driving us into irrelevance and the university implodes and is absorbed by Le Moyne.

 

[Orangezoo]

What if Adam Witestman out of spite ponied up the money for Kadary and we're lead to the title. With the flex of delivering the title to us he announces that he's investing a half a billion dollars into the Le Moyne basketball program and will turn it into the Mecca of college basketball driving us into irrelevance and the university implodes and is absorbed by Le Moyne.

How many edibles does it take until you’ve got Lemoyne slated as a the future of cbb….

 

[shandeezy7]

What if Adam Witestman out of spite ponied up the money for Kadary and we're lead to the title. With the flex of delivering the title to us he announces that he's investing a half a billion dollars into the Le Moyne basketball program and will turn it into the Mecca of college basketball driving us into irrelevance and the university implodes and is absorbed by Le Moyne.

I, for one, welcome our new Dolphin overlords.