I agree, and my wording probably didn't accuratly express what you said in your post or what I was trying to express, but yes we should have won that game. And yes "good" teams will lose at hime to underdogs from time to time obviously. My main point in my post was that, wholisticly, this team this year is not that great and these losses will hurt more due to our ceiling then a Duke loss to BC would, for example. This team has too many warts that are issues and will continue to be issues as the season progress (ie ball handeling, shooting, 1/2 court offense, etc). I think making the ncaa tourney is a good and realistic goal for this team. This is a team that, I will, enjoy watching grow player by player and not one that will make a final 4 run imo, and there is nothing wrong with that.