Cusefan0307
Red recruits the ACC!
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Some won’t be happy unless we play every D1 NY team plus the BE.
And even at that pointSome won’t be happy unless we play every D1 NY team plus the BE.
Plus all the D 2's and SUNYAC schools.And even at that point
Red beat Colgate two years in a row after JB lost his last two to them. Cornell is of little concern either. You’re saying things just to hear yourself. SU would beat Siena by fifteen or more.Red’s a coward. Playing Siena would generate eyeballs and buzz in the capital region. It would help Gerry’s program by giving them a marquee game. Have we fallen that much that we are scared of a buy game with little ole Siena? He’s already ditched Colgate and Cornell. Red’s scared to lose these games. Playing Binghamton isn’t going to build our brand. Adopt the Izzo mindset. Any team. Any place. Credit to Gerry for needling Red and the school via the press
Red beat Colgate by a total of 6 points in two years in a Quad 3 and Quad 4 game. SU should shellack Siena but we’ll never know unless he agrees to play the game. Sorry but I haven’t seen a good explanation for avoiding it. Fans of both programs would eat the game up.Red beat Colgate two years in a row after JB lost his last two to them. Cornell is of little concern either. You’re saying things just to hear yourself. SU would beat Siena by fifteen or more.
How do those teams not benefit us but rumored noncon opponent binghampton somehow does benefit us? Colgate (exciting coach; annual game dating back to 1902), Siena (GMAC), and LeMoyne (in town JV team) seem like far better options for an interesting game. Siena and Colgate are both projected to be much better than Binghampton and could even be Quad 3 wins as opposed to Quad 4 soup cans. The financial cost of the game is an interesting angle I didn’t consider but on the surface, it looks like Red is scheduling our soup cans games to not lose rather than playing better lower opponents in more interesting games. Just my .02First, we aren't afraid to play Siena. Or Colgate. Or Lemoyne. But the question for us is how this benefits us. They don't. They add nothing to our SOS. They are good enough that if they beat us, it hurts and if we win, it doesn't help. Exactly the type of team you want to avoid.
sort of right. The point is that we are not afraid of those teams but a loss to those teams would really hurt us. A win gets us next to nothing. You beat Colgate and Siena. A big so what in any area other than upstate NY. And let's be real, if G-mac wasn't at Siena, no one would care if we played them or didn't.How do those teams not benefit us but rumored noncon opponent binghampton somehow does benefit us? Colgate (exciting coach; annual game dating back to 1902), Siena (GMAC), and LeMoyne (in town JV team) seem like far better options for an interesting game. Siena and Colgate are both projected to be much better than Binghampton and could even be Quad 3 wins as opposed to Quad 4 soup cans. The financial cost of the game is an interesting angle I didn’t consider but on the surface, it looks like Red is scheduling our soup cans games to not lose rather than playing better lower opponents in more interesting games. Just my .02
Let's first get the program back where it belongs top 10 program. Then we can go back to playing all you name it rinky dink schools in NYS.sort of right. The point is that we are not afraid of those teams but a loss to those teams would really hurt us. A win gets us next to nothing. You beat Colgate and Siena. A big so what in any area other than upstate NY. And let's be real, if G-mac wasn't at Siena, no one would care if we played them or didn't.
The thing is, we shouldn't be bad enough that them beating us is even a consideration. If we schedule them, it should be scheduling a W.First, we aren't afraid to play Siena. Or Colgate. Or Lemoyne. But the question for us is how this benefits us. They don't. They add nothing to our SOS. They are good enough that if they beat us, it hurts and if we win, it doesn't help. Exactly the type of team you want to avoid.
We have to deal with what is. Not what should be.The thing is, we shouldn't be bad enough that them beating us is even a consideration. If we schedule them, it should be scheduling a W.
Again, they will still need some teams like that to round out the schedule. They might as well be local, and historically they have been.sort of right. The point is that we are not afraid of those teams but a loss to those teams would really hurt us. A win gets us next to nothing. You beat Colgate and Siena. A big so what in any area other than upstate NY. And let's be real, if G-mac wasn't at Siena, no one would care if we played them or didn't.
If "what is" is that we have to think about scheduling in a way where we have to consider how a loss to Siena impacts our chances of making the tournament, then I don't care if we make the tournament.We have to deal with what is. Not what should be.
I’m really not even considering how a game like that would affect our tournament hopes. I don’t think SU needs a scenario where GMac either beats Red or it’s a close contest (with far less ‘resources’) and people start (continue) the conversation about why it should have been GMac succeeding JB. How much would SU have to win by to nullify that aspect of speculation?If "what is" is that we have to think about scheduling in a way where we have to consider how a loss to Siena impacts our chances of making the tournament, then I don't care if we make the tournament.
I'm sick of this discussion about what we need to do to squeak into the tournament. We should be discussing what seed we think we should be, not whether we'll be on the right side of the bubble.
sort of right. The point is that we are not afraid of those teams but a loss to those teams would really hurt us. A win gets us next to nothing. You beat Colgate and Siena. A big so what in any area other than upstate NY. And let's be real, if G-mac wasn't at Siena, no one would care if we played them or didn't.
Which is a bit weird, right?We haven't played Siena in 20 years.
Don't get me wrong. I think we should play LeMoyne, Cornell and Colgate. But I'm not going to get worked up about not playing them. I'm sure there are things I don't know about how much we pay those schools to play us.Again, they will still need some teams like that to round out the schedule. They might as well be local, and historically they have been.
Then if that's the case, we wasted our time bringing Red back. GMac did a great job rebuilding Siena last year, but they lost the only power conference game they played to Xavier 80-55. Personally, I don't care if we play Siena or not, but if we're scared of that being a loss, what are we even doing?We have to deal with what is. Not what should be.
Until we get back to being top 10-15, there is no reason to play Siena with Gerry there, case closed. Time to stop the thought.I’m really not even considering how a game like that would affect our tournament hopes. I don’t think SU needs a scenario where GMac either beats Red or it’s a close contest (with far less ‘resources’) and people start (continue) the conversation about why it should have been GMac succeeding JB. How much would SU have to win by to nullify that aspect of speculation?
Then again, if you want Red out next year, that might bolster the argument. So, maybe Bad for SU’s season and Good for its longer term prospects?
I just think it’s too soon, too raw.
Did he help ticket sales when he actually coached here?From a ticket sales standpoint a potential game with Sienna at least would do better than a colgate, cornell, binghamton, etc type school solely because of Gerry. He is undeniably beloved here.
We aren't scared of Siena. We haven't played them in 20 years. Was JB afraid of them? There is zero to be gained in playing them other than the fans get to say hi to Gerry. I don't care if we play them but to make this an issue is somewhat ridiculous to me. We never play them. And it's not like they were some sort of power last year. Good luck to them. Why not play St Bonnie? At least we have a history with them. Or Marist? Or Iona. There are a lot of teams we could play. Siena would be way down my list. Certainly behind Colgate, Cornell and LeMoyne.Then if that's the case, we wasted our time bringing Red back. GMac did a great job rebuilding Siena last year, but they lost the only power conference game they played to Xavier 80-55. Personally, I don't care if we play Siena or not, but if we're scared of that being a loss, what are we even doing?
Did he help ticket sales when he actually coached here?
People who are disregarding the excitement and buzz for seeing head coach Gerry play Cuse in the dome are being intentionally obtuseits obviously different when he was ON staff
a prodigal son returns home and I know a handful of people off the top of my head who would go specifically for the matchup
lets not act like it wouldn't be an intriguing storyline. I am also not saying this would sell out the building but when given a chance to play sienna over say binghamton, I would play sienna every single time so long as Gerry as HC