There a lot of reasons for it. Weve exhaust discussions on here. I’m not going to list all the challenges over again but NYS has been behind in football for lots of reasons and it makes it hard to develop kids and evaluate them as college coaches.
Recruiting analysts are wrong a lot. I think if Syracuse doesn't recruit these guys, other schools probably think if Syracuse isn't interested, they must not be very good. Maybe Don Brown will try to get some players in upstate NY, I know he has all the connections in New England.
There are no recruiting summer camps upstate either.
Didn’t say they are always right but you can’t ignore the lack of prospects in the state and the lack of them going to P5 schools. It’s not just Syracuse. Most P5 schools ignore NYS. I hope more coaches do come in and recruit our kids. There’s talent here. Just not enough p5 talent to bank on. I’m speaking from experience. I’ve showcased kids and I’ve sat down with many college coaches about NYS. I’m actually involved in these discussions and camps to get more NYS kids exposure.
You probably see this first hand, that if a player is getting recruited at a school it puts it in the mind of other guys there that it is doable. Seems like there could be an upswing in New York football, things go in cycles.
I would think not. Not only is the program withering, it's taking everything else with it.
Always hopeful of it. We are going to keep working at it. HS coaches just have to continue to develop and expose their kids. We have to find more ways to make them more marketable.
Yes I agree. They definitely could be recuiting NYC harder. They have got some kids though. Kids like Fuentes Matthew and Trill. They struggle getting the higher ends kids because those kids would rather play for winning teams. There's a pitch to those kids. Some bite and some dont give SU a sniff.
Live in Ohio. 100 percent Big 10 country…especially now with PSU there. They’d rather go to Indiana or Purdue than Cuse…
You mention Baber's interest in the community. A friend of mine is a big SU fan and after Baber's was hired my friend was running a big event and he reached out to Babers to appear at the event to get to know the community and for the community to get to know him, You know spread the brand. A representative of Babers got back to him, a five minute appearance would be $10,000. I always remember Coach Mac and Boeheim appearing everywhere.
UB became good because they had a good coach.
A great coach. Still, the UB squad had more than 50 NY players, and as I said, they weren't the top NY guys.
The results are the same. They became a power in the MAC with 50+ NY players.
Exactly. In the MAC.
Section 3 football isn’t very good right now. And I’m pretty sure Babers doesn’t want to sign local kids unless they are locks. I think he sees too much down side if a local kid struggles to make the team. Plus theres the risk you are inviting local trouble into the program.
I was told SU will offer a local kid only if they are willing to take a commitment from them.
