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Have to get Mike Gbinije going

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I re-watched the Miami game and 3 times he was wide open for 3 and didn't take the shot. He is 5/11 for the season from 3 and I know its a small sample size but it is 45% and it would be really great if all 3 of our guards were legit scoring threats
 
I re-watched the Miami game and 3 times he was wide open for 3 and didn't take the shot. He is 5/11 for the season from 3 and I know its a small sample size but it is 45% and it would be really great if all 3 of our guards were legit scoring threats

I too would like to see him shoot a little more. Teams are certainly giving him the opportunity and he is reluctant to pull the trigger. I am not saying take 5 threes a game but if the shot is there I would have no problem with him taking it.
 
full red shirt yr and 14 games to ease into the rotation and yet it seems he doesn't fully grasp his role yet.
 
His ballhandling and passing (especially against the press) are more of a concern than his 3 point shot
 
His ballhandling and passing (especially against the press) are more of a concern than his 3 point shot

True but the OP is still correct IMO. He isn't saying he is concerned about his shooting he's saying please shoot those wide open ones they are giving you since you are 5-11 on the season. CJ did great shooting wide open 3's last season and I feel like MikeG and Ennis doing the same thing could really help us. Cooney isn't going to shoot 50% from deep every game. The more MikeG can help on offense the more valuable he becomes especially against teams that are really big on the perimeter.
 
That Miami game was not his kind of game. They were shutting Miami down without his defensive abilities.

Virginia Tech will be different. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Gbinije has a very good game tonight.
 
That Miami game was not his kind of game. They were shutting Miami down without his defensive abilities.

Virginia Tech will be different. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Gbinije has a very good game tonight.

Do you think he should shoot more when he is wide open from 3? I think his release isn't the quickest but the overall shot has looked good when he has time.
 
I re-watched the Miami game and 3 times he was wide open for 3 and didn't take the shot. He is 5/11 for the season from 3 and I know its a small sample size but it is 45% and it would be really great if all 3 of our guards were legit scoring threats

I understand your point. But, when you are struggling to score, and go nearly 9 mins without a field goal, I would imagine that gB is not the guy that JB wants taking 3s, even if he is wide open. He may be 5/11 in games, but the staff has seen him shoot 1000s of times in practice and drills. I also think that gB clearly understands his role in the O. It is unlikely that he is going to be an outside scoring threat on this team.
 
Do you think he should shoot more when he is wide open from 3? I think his release isn't the quickest but the overall shot has looked good when he has time.

I want Gbinije to shoot when he is open and to continue to progress as an offensive player, but I also understand that at this point he is really a defensive specialist, and I don't think Syracuse is going to win or lose any games this year based on what he does offensively, so I think its a pretty minor issue overall.
 
I understand your point. But, when you are struggling to score, and go nearly 9 mins without a field goal, I would imagine that gB is not the guy that JB wants taking 3s, even if he is wide open. He may be 5/11 in games, but the staff has seen him shoot 1000s of times in practice and drills. I also think that gB clearly understands his role in the O. It is unlikely that he is going to be an outside scoring threat on this team.
I completely disagree, because I doubt his role is to do nothing and just pass it along when he gets it. If he knew his role I think JB would have used him much more in that Miami game.
 
I completely disagree, because I doubt his role is to do nothing and just pass it along when he gets it. If he knew his role I think JB would have used him much more in that Miami game.

Wow, who said his role is to "do nothing?"
 
This may sound crazy but I'd rather him pass the ball up instead of throwing one up with zero confidence. If he needs to fix anything it's his confidence. If I were him I'd think I was the cats meow, I'd be like "I was recruited by Duke, they wanted me, I wanted a change and Syracuse wanted me, I'm a basketball god".
 
This may sound crazy but I'd rather him pass the ball up instead of throwing one up with zero confidence. If he needs to fix anything it's his confidence. If I were him I'd think I was the cats meow, I'd be like "I was recruited by Duke, they wanted me, I wanted a change and Syracuse wanted me, I'm a basketball god".

This is funny but there is a lot of truth to it. Often times the belief In themselves is the difference between good and great. Approach and expectation can take talent a very long way in either direction depending on the approach and expectation.
 
I completely disagree, because I doubt his role is to do nothing and just pass it along when he gets it. If he knew his role I think JB would have used him much more in that Miami game.
JB talked about why he kept Trevor in the game so much on Saturday after the game. Mike doesn't have the green light offensively and that's obviously why he's so tentative. Watching him frustrates me as well, because I believe he could offer more offensively, but when you don't play big minutes he's not going to just start shooting and pressing the issue. I'd actually like to see him get to the basket with his length and either finish or get fouled, because coming in cold off the bench jumpers don't usually fall.
 
I too would like to see him shoot a little more. Teams are certainly giving him the opportunity and he is reluctant to pull the trigger. I am not saying take 5 threes a game but if the shot is there I would have no problem with him taking it.

I think we are going to see a lot of teams in conference pack the paint and with the exception of Cooney, dare everyone on the team to shoot from the outside.

Silent G, Jerami and TE were left uncovered outside the paint all game long as the defense was more than willing to give them jumpers to prevent them from dribble penetrating. BMK was left alone down low as well. It really makes it hard for us to score with so many players who are not threats to score and don't need to be covered. That is why TC was kept in the game even when it was clear he was not on. UM at least covered him and this opened some spaces for the cutters to get inside. And that is why RC played so much and BMK played so little.

And this is why it was so easy for UM to double CJ and not get burned doing it.

A big reason for UM's success defending the paint against SU was their height. Not many in the conference can match it (or their athletic ability). If VT tries to use the same strategy, it will not go well for them.
 
I think we are going to see a lot of teams in conference pack the paint and with the exception of Cooney, dare everyone on the team to shoot from the outside.

Silent G, Jerami and TE were left uncovered outside the paint all game long as the defense was more than willing to give them jumpers to prevent them from dribble penetrating. BMK was left alone down low as well. It really makes it hard for us to score with so many players who are not threats to score and don't need to be covered. That is why TC was kept in the game even when it was clear he was not on. UM at least covered him and this opened some spaces for the cutters to get inside. And that is why RC played so much and BMK played so little.

And this is why it was so easy for UM to double CJ and not get burned doing it.

A big reason for UM's success defending the paint against SU was their height. Not many in the conference can match it (or their athletic ability). If VT tries to use the same strategy, it will not go well for them.

I agree with this 100%. I believe that Ennis' playmaking, including his ability to break down defenses off the dribble, will be a major key to scoring success in the conference. Roberson may also need to see more time.
 
I want Gbinije to shoot when he is open and to continue to progress as an offensive player, but I also understand that at this point he is really a defensive specialist, and I don't think Syracuse is going to win or lose any games this year based on what he does offensively, so I think its a pretty minor issue overall.

I think as soon as JB tells him he has the green light, he will start taking the shots. He seems like a very coachable kid (and yes, I realize I have little to base this on) who does what his coach tells him to do. Right now, his coach tells him his role is to facilitate on the offensive end and clamp down on the other end.
 
I thought he has filled in admirably when Tyler has needed a rest. His defense has been solid and he's looked good passing the rock. I dont look at him as a scorer esp from the perimeter.
 
I think as soon as JB tells him he has the green light, he will start taking the shots. He seems like a very coachable kid (and yes, I realize I have little to base this on) who does what his coach tells him to do. Right now, his coach tells him his role is to facilitate on the offensive end and clamp down on the other end.

I tend to agree he looks like he is trying to give what the coaches want from him. He has certainly been a valuable part of the team and if he gets to the point of being a good enough shooter teams cannot ignore him he will be even more valuable and that should open up his slashing game which seems to be a strength.
 
I wish at the very least he would look at the basket once in a while and maybe even throw a pump fake. Most of the time when he gets the ball, he is immediately looking to pass it. Doesn't even glance at the basket. The defense is not going to play honest if that's all you're doing, and quickly swinging the ball over to the next man is not going to be effective.
 
JB talked about why he kept Trevor in the game so much on Saturday after the game. Mike doesn't have the green light offensively and that's obviously why he's so tentative. Watching him frustrates me as well, because I believe he could offer more offensively, but when you don't play big minutes he's not going to just start shooting and pressing the issue. I'd actually like to see him get to the basket with his length and either finish or get fouled, because coming in cold off the bench jumpers don't usually fall.
I am not saying he should just start shooting but I agree he should drive to the basket, I mean they are completely playing off of him.
 
no one, I am saying that is what he is doing

Gotcha. FWIW, I would be willing to bet that SilentG is doing exactly what JB is asking him to do on the court; nothing more, nothing less. And, open 3s notwithstanding, he is making a meaningful contribution. Part of what makes JB a hall of famer - insisting that role players play their roles and not restricting "star" players.
 
I dont think ive gotten a worse read off a player than MG in my whole life. He's supposedly was a scorer but all that he looks is lost to me. He's supposed to be a lot further along than hes showed so far. Whats his game? I dont see anything except a player who looks out of position and in stage freight playing college ball.
 
I re-watched the Miami game and 3 times he was wide open for 3 and didn't take the shot. He is 5/11 for the season from 3 and I know its a small sample size but it is 45% and it would be really great if all 3 of our guards were legit scoring threats


Gbinije and Ennis Passing up open shots is
1. a fear of getting taking out of the game for missing, 2. a in game strategy decision for only cooney and fair to shoot (even on off nights), 3. they just aren't ready as practice indicates (yet), or 4. they just couldn't get open.

I would guess its 3 in Gbinijes case considering the score, and Ennis took one but wasn't squared up well.

imo.
Mike was a periemeter driver in highschool but right now hes not a isolation player the minute he got into the lane early in the season he would be doubled and bad things would happen(even with a screen). I think that has taken alot of his confidence away, but he is in a freshmen cooney like roll doing it well in practice according to the post standard but not in games.

I would like him to find himself more transition halfcourt basket opportunities, as he needs to come to the reality he probably won't become a isolation player this year and the team could use a few baskets from him. Maybe learn to set the screen and roll, instead of receiving one with his size. He puts another 6'7 offensive threat out there to work with, and it would help him with the physical nature of the game. He has had a few nice cuts for easy layups under the basket. If he can learn do do that off of one dribble with a jumpstop higher jump anticipating the d with a bankshot instead of a longer jump in traffic good things could happen.

I don't think he has realized how to utilize the fact that he jumps alot higher with a jumpstop to his advantage yet. Thats what brought him the trophey at midnight madness with a pass dunk off the side of the backboard. Playing alittle with Fair could help him with that. I think there is a ton of potential there that is going unnoticed.
 
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