Donovan had elite level escape abilities and near excellence in passing
My impression is that McCord's impact on the team went beyond the playing field.
We have to be careful with using the term "generational talent". McNabb was 5th in heisman voting and the #2 overall pick and I wouldnt have called him that. not even after his NFL career. Generational talent is normally someone who dominates over a long period of time. Not just for 1 season.
Kyle had 34 TDs and the ACC all time record passing yards in 2 games less than Watson who is second. Donnie was more mobile for sure but Kyle is a MUCH better passer. Kyle has more poise and can read a defense much better than Donnie did. As I recall Donnie puked on the field several times always during big games. Let’s not forget his weaknesses
I agree with that, Donnie was not a generational talent. I think Kyle has a chance to be one. I think he has had an amazing season, I think he is an incredible overall talent. He had complete command of the offense and reminded my of A Mani g or Brady type player
Jim Brown says hello. Never saw him play in person when I was an undergraduate they showed old films of him in HBC occasionally. Made SU a national program and Ernie Davis followed it up. Jim Brown was absolutely shafted in the Hesiman voting.
Jim is in a class of his own along with Ernie Csonka and Floyd
Your eyes (and memory) deceive you
You do realize that he had one of the greatest a seasons in ACC history ??? Please tell me what he is lacking ?? Give me your expertise
Someone needed to say it. Mcnabb was first team all big East qb four straight years. He was conference player of the year for three. He was a top 5 heisman vote getter and a top 5 draft pick. He was the best player almost every time he took the field in college. The games he threw up in were at the pinnacle of the sport (one where talent evaluators barely have Kyle making a team).
Interesting question phrasing it as the most impactful rather than the best. There are many impactful players that might not necessarily make a list of the best. I do think the answer is McCord by a small margin over (not in order) Brown, Davis, McNabb, Donnie Mac, Nassib, Graves, Csonka, Little, Dungey, Feeney, Shrader (check the record book), Morris, Reyes, Phillips, Ishmael, Monk, Harrison.
He also threw the ball in the dirt more than any starter we have ever had. He wasn’t a great passer
And it’s impossible to compare across generations. McCord looks to have a Purdy like career maybe. 5 would be more like Mahomes or Lamar
What are Kyle’s weaknesses ? I’m still waiting to find out Also Kyle had much better season than any of McNabb’s. Also comparing a 7 team BE conference to 20 team ACC is ridiculous. Kyle would easily have been first team in that conference. You do know that Kyle was tenth in Heisman voting this year ??
I’m not saying Kyle isn’t very good. I’m disputing your assertion that he was much better than 5.
McNabb played with quite a few 1st and 2nd round draft picks in his 4 years, you don't have any players like that on this team.
Comparing across generations I don't like to do. At the time McNabb was a great QB, was he a great passer not if you are considering accuracy and touch but in college it is not always about that, McNabb threw a good deep ball but he wasn't a bad passer that is for sure. McNabb threw for 77 TDs and 26 Ints in his 4 years, add 19 rushing TDs. That is a pretty good TD to Int ratio for any QB. Graves was 48 TDs and 45 Ints with 17 rushing TDs. He was 1:1 basically for TD:Int Ratio and is considered one of our best QBs in history. Our OL when McNabb played was suspect also. Many times McNabb was scrambling for his life on pass plays and was great at keeping his eyes down field while scrambing, he was one of the most elusive QB's I've seen with a blend of strength, quickness and speed. The offense wasn't designed around passing as it is this year, the goal then was more about balance with P and D. Someone mentioned puking on the field, well after puking against VTech he threw the game winning TD pass as time expired. Our passing game was different then also. This year our short passing game was our running game since for a large part of the year we struggled to run the ball. McNabb and McCord are both great college QBs but in much different systems. We were fortunate to have McCord this year, his skills fit perfectly what we needed along with the WR Corp that was a vast upgrade from the year before.
Kevin Johnson was the first pick of the second round. He also graduated with two NFL tight ends
