High school football in Texas

[Townie72]

If I could convince my wife...I'd be outta TX in a NY minute. 5 Months in NY, 7 Months in FL.

I'm working on her...hopefully by 2014.

Jeez, Mark... Florida? You might want to visit and take a real good look before you swap Texas for Florida. 98% of Florida is uninhabitable.

Crime is beyond belief. I have been in business locations that were surrounded by fencing and security measures that would make a USAF Special Weapons area look naked.

 

[Townie72]

Leads the nation in % of population without health insurance. Business friendly people deadly.

Do you think that has anything to do with being located just north of the Rio Grande River?

 

[Townie72]

Math & Science education rankings: MA #1, TX below average

Heathiest States: MA #5, TX #44

Ahhh...no thanks

Make sure and watch the movie "The Fighter" ... it shows what most of Mass is really like. Dying factory towns, drugs, corruption overlaid with Liberalism.

 

[TexanMark]

Jeez, Mark... Florida? You might want to visit and take a real good look before you swap Texas for Florida. 98% of Florida is uninhabitable.

Crime is beyond belief. I have been in business locations that were surrounded by fencing and security measures that would make a USAF Special Weapons area look naked.

I'll pick carefully...I've lived there before(panhandle when in SpecOps). Looking Sarasota...Tampa... Pasco County or Port St. Lucie north to Daytona.

 

[syr02esq]

We are a healthy bunch and the money we save from not having to pay state income tax allows us to pay cash at the emergency room when we get bit by a rattlesnake while out dove hunting.

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Well stated my friend!

 

[syr02esq]

I'll pick carefully...I've lived there before(panhandle when in SpecOps). Looking Sarasota...Tampa... Pasco County or Port St. Lucie north to Daytona.

Where it costs twice as much to live as compared to Texas. I strongly urge you to lease not buy a home there.

 

[Czar]

There are politics in my football. I don't like politics in my football.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Oh they were just keeping up with the neighbors..Go Dragons.

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[TampaLaker]

I'll pick carefully...I've lived there before(panhandle when in SpecOps). Looking Sarasota...Tampa... Pasco County or Port St. Lucie north to Daytona.

You can come join me in Pasco county...

 

[Townie72]

I'll pick carefully...I've lived there before(panhandle when in SpecOps). Looking Sarasota...Tampa... Pasco County or Port St. Lucie north to Daytona.

The Panhandle ... also known as Lower Alabama.

Seriously, I have been all over Florida in the past two years on business including many of the places you mentioned above. I was hugely disappointed in the place. It's crowded, humid, buggy and crime ridden. It's fast food restaurants and tire dealers. And their economic woes will last for years. If you must leave TX, take a look at Asheville. Cleaner and cooler.

On Florida --- and I know this will sound like I'm a wine snob --- but I'm not. There are great fish restaurants there. Lots of them. But in almost none of these places can you get a decent glass of white wine to go with the great fish. The wait staff stares at you blankly if you ask. All they ever serve is chardonnay or chablis from a jug. That's what Florida is ... a place where all you can get is low cost California chardonnay poured from a gallon jug.

 

[cmr27]

This is wrong not only because it's an inelegant way to spend $60m but also because it ignores everything high school football is supposed to be about. I like high school football to be grassroots. I want a chain-linked fence around the field. I want a track around the field. I want moms and dads standing around a grill near the end zone selling hot dogs and hamburgers. I want to see some guy and some girl sneaking away to go under the bleachers. I want to see some kids playing near the field, and I want to wonder whether they'll wander onto the field at the wrong moment and interfere with a play.

The whole charm of seeing a star high school football player is framed and fueled by rinky-dink stadiums. The excitement lies in the possibility that this fellow, who's running wild in little more than a pasture, will be in Baton Rouge 12 months later showcasing these skills before 100,000 fanatics. And there's the notion that perhaps five years down the road, he will be at Jerry World or The Frozen Tundra.

That stadium was built by adults who imagine themselves as Jerry Jones. It's a monument to their own vanity. It actually has nothing to do with the kids at all.

 

[orlandoorange]

The Panhandle ... also known as Lower Alabama.

Seriously, I have been all over Florida in the past two years on business including many of the places you mentioned above. I was hugely disappointed in the place. It's crowded, humid, buggy and crime ridden. It's fast food restaurants and tire dealers. And their economic woes will last for years. If you must leave TX, take a look at Asheville. Cleaner and cooler.

On Florida --- and I know this will sound like I'm a wine snob --- but I'm not. There are great fish restaurants there. Lots of them. But in almost none of these places can you get a decent glass of white wine to go with the great fish. The wait staff stares at you blankly if you ask. All they ever serve is chardonnay or chablis from a jug. That's what Florida is ... a place where all you can get is low cost California chardonnay poured from a gallon jug.

Sounds like your spending most of your time in the wrong places. It's not humid or buggy for 6 months of the year, our summer is kind of like NY winter... except we can go to the beach. I'll take our state income tax rate over the limitations you mention.

 

[Townie72]

Sounds like your spending most of your time in the wrong places. It's not humid or buggy for 6 months of the year, our summer is kind of like NY winter... except we can go to the beach. I'll take our state income tax rate over the limitations you mention.

OK, its only inhabitable for 6 months a year (humid and buggy with occasional hurricanes).

Year round International Drive in Orlando puts me in mind of a sunnier version of Los Angeles in "Blade Runner". It's a monument to everything wrong with American culture. It is, however, close to Disney World, a plastic recreation of places around the world that actually are worth seeing.

I'm sure there are nice places in Florida. I like the Keys a lot. And Palm Beach is nice. As I said, the first 1/2 mile in from the beach isn't bad. But the rest of it is a mildewed swamp. There are a lot nicer places.

I just spent some time in Portland, OR. Rainy at times, but green and mild. And clean and beautiful. Great golf courses with actual grass. Very good food abounds. And some of the best wine in the world.

 

[NKR1978]

I just spent some time in Portland, OR. Rainy at times, but green and mild. And clean and beautiful. Great golf courses with actual grass. Very good food abounds. And some of the best wine in the world.

I really want to do a food trip to Portland. From what I've read and heard from a couple friends who have done a food vacation there, it's more than worth it.

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[Townie72]

I really want to do a food trip to Portland. From what I've read and heard from a couple friends who have done a food vacation there, it's more than worth it.

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Don't miss Bijou Cafe and Mother's for breakfast. Or Higgins or Veritable Quandry for dinner. Excellent Italian restaurants in SW Portland. Not the spaghetti and ravioli Americans think of as Italian food, but food as the Italians would eat in Italy.

And tasting lots of Pinot Noir in the Williamette Valley is a requirement. Good restaurants in McMinnville (French Bistro at the end of main street near the train tracks).

 

[NKR1978]

Don't miss Bijou Cafe and Mother's for breakfast. Or Higgins or Veritable Quandry for dinner. Excellent Italian restaurants in SW Portland. Not the spaghetti and ravioli Americans think of as Italian food, but food as the Italians would eat in Italy.

And tasting lots of Pinot Noir in the Williamette Valley is a requirement. Good restaurants in McMinnville (French Bistro at the end of main street near the train tracks).

Fortunately, I'm a fairly adventurous eater and don't think of spaghetti and most raviolis as Italian. Thanks for the recommendations.

 

[garnermike]

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I think that's twice what the Carrier Dome cost.

I believe the total cost of the Carrier Dome back in 1979-80 was $24M.

 

[BlueCurtain]

at what point does a wino become an alcoholic?

 

[Guinness]

The Panhandle ... also known as Lower Alabama.

Seriously, I have been all over Florida in the past two years on business including many of the places you mentioned above. I was hugely disappointed in the place. It's crowded, humid, buggy and crime ridden. It's fast food restaurants and tire dealers. And their economic woes will last for years. If you must leave TX, take a look at Asheville. Cleaner and cooler.

While cleaner and cooler we have our own set of issues here in Asheville. Jobs in particular are hard to come by unless you work either in tourism or the health care field. Also the cost of living here sucks compared to most of the South.

That said the weather here is simply too good to pass on. We get 4 seasons and none of them are extreme. Fall in particular is fantastic and lasts for ever.

 

[Orangello]

While cleaner and cooler we have our own set of issues here in Asheville. Jobs in particular are hard to come by unless you work either in tourism or the health care field. Also the cost of living here sucks compared to most of the South.

That said the weather here is simply too good to pass on. We get 4 seasons and none of them are extreme. Fall in particular is fantastic and lasts for ever.

Just an idea

 

[Townie72]

at what point does a wino become an alcoholic?

There are a number of telltale signs.

Are you drinking muscatel from a bottle in a paper bag in the middle of the afternoon underneath a highway overpass?

Is your wine rack filled with fortified wines from Canandaigua Wineries like Wild Irish Rose?

Are you concerned about whether to have white or red wine with your Cheerios for breakfast?

Do your eye balls look like olives floating in tomato juice?

Just a few helpful hints that suggest it might be wise to start cutting back on alcohol.

 

[SWC75]

This is wrong not only because it's an inelegant way to spend $60m but also because it ignores everything high school football is supposed to be about. I like high school football to be grassroots. I want a chain-linked fence around the field. I want a track around the field. I want moms and dads standing around a grill near the end zone selling hot dogs and hamburgers. I want to see some guy and some girl sneaking away to go under the bleachers. I want to see some kids playing near the field, and I want to wonder whether they'll wander onto the field at the wrong moment and interfere with a play.

The whole charm of seeing a star high school football player is framed and fueled by rinky-dink stadiums. The excitement lies in the possibility that this fellow, who's running wild in little more than a pasture, will be in Baton Rouge 12 months later showcasing these skills before 100,000 fanatics. And there's the notion that perhaps five years down the road, he will be at Jerry World or The Frozen Tundra.

That stadium was built by adults who imagine themselves as Jerry Jones. It's a monument to their own vanity. It actually has nothing to do with the kids at all.

 

[longtimefan]

There are a number of telltale signs.

Are you drinking muscatel from a bottle in a paper bag in the middle of the afternoon underneath a highway overpass?

Is your wine rack filled with fortified wines from Canandaigua Wineries like Wild Irish Rose?

Are you concerned about whether to have white or red wine with your Cheerios for breakfast?

Do your eye balls look like olives floating in tomato juice?

Just a few helpful hints that suggest it might be wise to start cutting back on alcohol.

You don't need to drink muscatel. There are lots of alcoholics who have much more high-brow tastes.

 

[longtimefan]

The Panhandle ... also known as Lower Alabama.

Seriously, I have been all over Florida in the past two years on business including many of the places you mentioned above. I was hugely disappointed in the place. It's crowded, humid, buggy and crime ridden. It's fast food restaurants and tire dealers. And their economic woes will last for years. If you must leave TX, take a look at Asheville. Cleaner and cooler.

On Florida --- and I know this will sound like I'm a wine snob --- but I'm not. There are great fish restaurants there. Lots of them. But in almost none of these places can you get a decent glass of white wine to go with the great fish. The wait staff stares at you blankly if you ask. All they ever serve is chardonnay or chablis from a jug. That's what Florida is ... a place where all you can get is low cost California chardonnay poured from a gallon jug.

I would suggest that the Houston-Galveston area might be as humid and bug-ridden as any place in the USA.

 

[Townie72]

There's a fundamental misunderstanding on here --- by people who have never lived in Texas --- about the people and the culture there.

Just as the Texans have their stereotype of "New Yawkers", so do the Northeasterners have theirs of Texans. Both of these stereotypes are wildly inaccurate. Unless of course, you really are like Archie Bunker, Tony Soprano or one of the ladies from the SNL skit "Coffee Talk".

I lived in Texas for five years and loved it. It wasn't the scenery. It's plug ugly. The weather is bad ... unless you compare in the Central and Western NY. What makes Texas a good place to live is the Texans.

As opposed to being "problem-oriented" with a never-ending list of complaints --- like the typical NY'er --- the Texans are optimists. It's a place where people feel good about themselves, their lives and their prospects. Versus the never-ending kvetching that you hear from Boston to DC.

After years of being an Iggles season ticket holder, I was disoriented when I went to games at Cowboy stadium. Who were all these polite, knowledgeable, well-dressed fans? Where were the crowds of belligerent, foul-mouthed drunks booing and fighting I had become used to at The Vet?

High school football is a huge deal down there. It's what binds some of these places together as a community. Towns pour a lot of money into it, some of which is at the expense of things like school libraries. But its no worse than the teacher's unions have done to the school systems in the Northeast. I was shocked to see the large number of teachers in Montgomery County MD earning over $100K for 180 days of work a year in front of smaller and smaller classrooms.