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I would suggest that the Houston-Galveston area might be as humid and bug-ridden as any place in the USA.

I buy that 100%. Houston is one of the worst places in the US. Houston and Galveston are the worst places in Texas, for sure.

And the beaches in Texas --- which are close to the mouth of the Mississippi --- can't compare with the beaches on the east coast.

But, Florida is not the answer.
 
You don't need to drink muscatel. There are lots of alcoholics who have much more high-brow tastes.

For sure.

But I'll bet the percentage of people that are drinking cheap wine that are alcoholics is higher than that of people who are drinking Chateauneuf du Pape.
 
For sure.

But I'll bet the percentage of people that are drinking cheap wine that are alcoholics is higher than that of people who are drinking Chateauneuf du Pape.
But a lot of those muscatel drinkers started out on top shelf stuff, before they hit the skids.
 
OK, its only inhabitable for 6 months a year (humid and buggy with occasional hurricanes).

Year round International Drive in Orlando puts me in mind of a sunnier version of Los Angeles in "Blade Runner". It's a monument to everything wrong with American culture. It is, however, close to Disney World, a plastic recreation of places around the world that actually are worth seeing.

I'm sure there are nice places in Florida. I like the Keys a lot. And Palm Beach is nice. As I said, the first 1/2 mile in from the beach isn't bad. But the rest of it is a mildewed swamp. There are a lot nicer places.

I just spent some time in Portland, OR. Rainy at times, but green and mild. And clean and beautiful. Great golf courses with actual grass. Very good food abounds. And some of the best wine in the world.

Townie I understand the arguments...but my plan is to spend 5 months in NY and 7 months in FL...the hot, humid thing for me will be non existent. I plan to be in NY from early May to early October. I also plan to be within a few miles of the coast and the areas I described earlier typically have avoided hurricanes. Living somewhere in Cental (Coastal) Florida allows me to drive to NY in 2 days or fly nonstop from Orlando in 3 hrs. Besides the Tampa and Space Coast Areas, I'm also going to look into coastal FL north of Daytona, coastal GA and the Carolinas. I heard some good things about St. Augustine, Brunswick, GA and Charleston, SC.

Also totally agree with you on the atitude difference between Texans and Northeasterners.
 
Townie I understand the arguments...but my plan is to spend 5 months in NY and 7 months in FL...the hot, humid thing for me will be non existent. I plan to be in NY from early May to early October. I also plan to be within a few miles of the coast and the areas I described earlier typically have avoided hurricanes. Living somewhere in Cental (Coastal) Florida allows me to drive to NY in 2 days or fly nonstop from Orlando in 3 hrs. Besides the Tampa and Space Coast Areas, I'm also going to look into coastal FL north of Daytona, coastal GA and the Carolinas. I heard some good things about St. Augustine, Brunswick, GA and Charleston, SC.

Also totally agree with you on the atitude difference between Texans and Northeasterners.

Mark;

I'm sure there are nice places in Florida. I just was so shocked after a couple of relatively long trips throughout the State to see what most of it looked like.

We were looking at the electrical systems in hospitals. Many of them had been built on the cheap. Their generator systems backed up only critical power. When the hurricanes came through and knocked out power, many of the hospitals couldn't run their air handling systems. Infections love stagnant air. I wouldn't want to be in a Florida hospital running off the generators ... even to visit. And this was just an example of what we saw. It runs through just about everything they build down there.

Build it cheap. Get it up fast. Who cares how long it lasts, And zoning? Who cares about zoning? We are here to make a cheap buck as fast as we can and get out of Dodge.

The Carolinas are better. Not so tropical ... but better administered. My sense is Florida is going to get worse and worse. Traffic. Immigration. Crime.

On the Texans. When I think of Texas, I always think of the Willie Nelson song, "Leuckenbach, Texas". That's who many of those people really are.
 
There's a fundamental misunderstanding on here --- by people who have never lived in Texas --- about the people and the culture there.

Just as the Texans have their stereotype of "New Yawkers", so do the Northeasterners have theirs of Texans. Both of these stereotypes are wildly inaccurate. Unless of course, you really are like Archie Bunker, Tony Soprano or one of the ladies from the SNL skit "Coffee Talk".

I lived in Texas for five years and loved it. It wasn't the scenery. It's plug ugly. The weather is bad ... unless you compare in the Central and Western NY. What makes Texas a good place to live is the Texans.

As opposed to being "problem-oriented" with a never-ending list of complaints --- like the typical NY'er --- the Texans are optimists. It's a place where people feel good about themselves, their lives and their prospects. Versus the never-ending kvetching that you hear from Boston to DC.

After years of being an Iggles season ticket holder, I was disoriented when I went to games at Cowboy stadium. Who were all these polite, knowledgeable, well-dressed fans? Where were the crowds of belligerent, foul-mouthed drunks booing and fighting I had become used to at The Vet?

High school football is a huge deal down there. It's what binds some of these places together as a community. Towns pour a lot of money into it, some of which is at the expense of things like school libraries. But its no worse than the teacher's unions have done to the school systems in the Northeast. I was shocked to see the large number of teachers in Montgomery County MD earning over $100K for 180 days of work a year in front of smaller and smaller classrooms.
excellent - talking about inaccurate stereotypes before launching into 4 your own.
 
Can we kill this thread? Or at least move it to the Politics OT Board?

We are getting advice on where to live from a guy who chose "Townie" as his handle (no offense, just pointing out the irony).
 
Can we kill this thread? Or at least move it to the Politics OT Board?

We are getting advice on where to live from a guy who chose "Townie" as his handle (no offense, just pointing out the irony).

I'll get it back on track...my coworkers son is going out for the varsity team...Class 4A. They have roughly 1500 students in grades 9-12. They have a total of 225 combined kids going out for the Frosh/JV/Varsity teams. This is a school that just fired their old coach after a horrible season. Compare that to a suburban HS's in the NE.
 
I'll get it back on track...my coworkers son is going out for the varsity team...Class 4A. They have roughly 1500 students in grades 9-12. They have a total of 225 combined kids going out for the Frosh/JV/Varsity teams. This is a school that just fired their old coach after a horrible season. Compare that to a suburban HS's in the NE.

That's amazing. The cultural difference in attitudes towards football (and especially how it intertwines with community) between Texas and the NE is crazy.
 
That's amazing. The cultural difference in attitudes towards football (and especially how it intertwines with community) between Texas and the NE is crazy.

It's worse than that. For example, Plano, Texas could have two standard sized high schools. Instead they decided to have one high school for grades 9 and 10 and another high school for grades 11 and 12.

Q. Why would they do such a thing?

A. Football
 
Or you have the football team of 7th graders, in Southlake, who have to be at school at 6:30 am to practice for football. Why? Because the 8th grade team has to practice after school. They start them early in Texas.
 
Townie I understand the arguments...but my plan is to spend 5 months in NY and 7 months in FL...the hot, humid thing for me will be non existent. I plan to be in NY from early May to early October. I also plan to be within a few miles of the coast and the areas I described earlier typically have avoided hurricanes. Living somewhere in Cental (Coastal) Florida allows me to drive to NY in 2 days or fly nonstop from Orlando in 3 hrs. Besides the Tampa and Space Coast Areas, I'm also going to look into coastal FL north of Daytona, coastal GA and the Carolinas. I heard some good things about St. Augustine, Brunswick, GA and Charleston, SC.

Also totally agree with you on the atitude difference between Texans and Northeasterners.
Mark. check out Hilton Head Island SC. Great weather, 1/2 hr to Savannah, mucho golf, fantastic scenery and lifestyle, ie. restaurants!... PGA golf tournament, etc, etc. I vacation there as often as possible and is my retirement choice. Now that we are in the ACC, I have convinced the bride that we will be attending every game within a days drive, can't wait!
 
It's worse than that. For example, Plano, Texas could have two standard sized high schools. Instead they decided to have one high school for grades 9 and 10 and another high school for grades 11 and 12.

Q. Why would they do such a thing?

A. Football
http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=1149#.UCRCyKNmO00
Judson another TX power outside San Antonio did the same thing.

BTW, here is a picture of the HS stadium my coworker's son will play at (they share the stadium with their sister district HS)...and this isn't that impressive for 4A/5A...BTW, two kids getting some interest from schools like SMU as rising Juniors both want to hear from Syracuse. I'll be watching them this Fall to see if they are ACC material.

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Mark. check out Hilton Head Island SC. Great weather, 1/2 hr to Savannah, mucho golf, fantastic scenery and lifestyle, ie. restaurants!... PGA golf tournament, etc, etc. I vacation there as often as possible and is my retirement choice. Now that we are in the ACC, I have convinced the bride that we will be attending every game within a days drive, can't wait!

Definitely will check it out...I know it is a bit more upscale than Myrtle Beach (and 5-10 degrees warmer in the winter).
 
Judson another TX power outside San Antonio did the same thing.

BTW, here is a picture of the HS stadium my coworker's son will play at (they share the stadium with their sister district HS)...and this isn't that impressive for 4A/5A...BTW, two kids getting some interest from schools like SMU as rising Juniors both want to hear from Syracuse. I'll be watching them this Fall to see if they are ACC material.

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That stadium looks similar to the Temple Wildcats, maybe a little newer.
 
Definitely will check it out...I know it is a bit more upscale than Myrtle Beach (and 5-10 degrees warmer in the winter).

Hilton Head and Myrtle are nothing like each other. In fact, I am typing this from Hilton Head right now. Hilton Head is much more a low key, family oriented place. In fact, it is one of my favorite places in the world.

I also love Charleston, SC. Great little city with worlds of things to do. Great thing about the real estate bubble is that there are some definite deals to be had out there.
 
This is wrong not only because it's an inelegant way to spend $60m but also because it ignores everything high school football is supposed to be about. I like high school football to be grassroots. I want a chain-linked fence around the field. I want a track around the field. I want moms and dads standing around a grill near the end zone selling hot dogs and hamburgers. I want to see some guy and some girl sneaking away to go under the bleachers. I want to see some kids playing near the field, and I want to wonder whether they'll wander onto the field at the wrong moment and interfere with a play.

The whole charm of seeing a star high school football player is framed and fueled by rinky-dink stadiums. The excitement lies in the possibility that this fellow, who's running wild in little more than a pasture, will be in Baton Rouge 12 months later showcasing these skills before 100,000 fanatics. And there's the notion that perhaps five years down the road, he will be at Jerry World or The Frozen Tundra.

That stadium was built by adults who imagine themselves as Jerry Jones. It's a monument to their own vanity. It actually has nothing to do with the kids at all.

This still happens in Texas-- in pop Warner football!
 
Nothing beats CO guys. Best weather on the planet. Healthy, Beautiful. I have been fortunate to live in some nice places but the Mountains of CO are hard to beat
 
Nothing beats CO guys. Best weather on the planet. Healthy, Beautiful. I have been fortunate to live in some nice places but the Mountains of CO are hard to beat
Weather is too freaky for my taste...sat in 22 degrees and ice for a game at the Air Force Academy a few years ago in early October...love to visit though.
 
Definitely will check it out...I know it is a bit more upscale than Myrtle Beach (and 5-10 degrees warmer in the winter).
True on both accounts. No neon, everything is earth tones, buildings cannot be higher than the trees, no streetlights, and very lush. just very unique.
 
Hilton Head and Myrtle are nothing like each other. In fact, I am typing this from Hilton Head right now. Hilton Head is much more a low key, family oriented place. In fact, it is one of my favorite places in the world.

I also love Charleston, SC. Great little city with worlds of things to do. Great thing about the real estate bubble is that there are some definite deals to be had out there.
CIL, are you a full-time resident of HHI? I vacation there constantly...actually going for a week in October , and , we want to retire there. Love it!!
 

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