Honest Opinion

[elimunelson]

Do we really think Syracuse football is playing this year and Michigan/Ohio State are not?

Color me skeptical that this is happening at all. I'm not going to get into the merits of the testing and what the schools are doing to mitigate things but once the Big 10 cancelled I assumed everyone will follow suit depending on how much additional practice they attempt to get from the players.

 

[Trueblue25]

Yes and we are winning it all.

 

[longislandcuse]

Do we really think Syracuse football is playing this year and Michigan/Ohio State are not?

Color me skeptical that this is happening at all. I'm not going to get into the merits of the testing and what the schools are doing to mitigate things but once the Big 10 cancelled I assumed everyone will follow suit depending on how much additional practice they attempt to get from the players.

Your initial question - on the surface - seems valid, but I think this is one of those times where people forget we play in a southern conference.

 

[Alsacs]

Ohio State’s HC is talking about playing in January and their fanbase is pissed beyond belief now.

Why were their football players brought back to campus workouts in June?

The Big Ten are afraid of the players changing the status quo because of a pandemic.

The SEC/ACC/Big XII are not afraid of these changes.

The medical information the PAC-12 claims to have gotten should have been disclosed during their announcement to cancel all sports thru January 1st.

It would have put the SEC/ACC on the defensive and made themselves look like leaders.
It’s likely their information is telling them what they want to hear.

Duke has an elite medical school and their consultant told the ACC with caution they can play.


The pac-12 players movement IMO and it moving on to the Big Ten players movement is why those conferences cancelled now.

 

[dollarbill44]

Do we really think Syracuse football is playing this year and Michigan/Ohio State are not?

Color me skeptical that this is happening at all. I'm not going to get into the merits of the testing and what the schools are doing to mitigate things but once the Big 10 cancelled I assumed everyone will follow suit depending on how much additional practice they attempt to get from the players.

The Big Ten also thought everyone would follow suit. I still don't think it was about Covid-19 for them or the PAC12, but about not wanting to deal with their newly empowered athletes.

 

[dollarbill44]

And one more cheeky comment: your thread title would indicate that many of your opinions are not honest.

 

[longislandcuse]

The B1G and PAC decisions were entirely different. Most CFB guys have said that PAC never had a shot with their financial issues (testing/protocols cost A LOT) and their location, being in areas that are either hot spots and/or still very much locked down. Also, there’s really not much backlash to no sports, specifically football... just a different world out West.

B1G, that’s another story - it seems like they made a decision a long time ago and were in search of reasons. Doesn’t mean they’re wrong, although I disagree, but that commissioner never wanted to play and he seems to have had his mind made up for a while.

 

[OrangeAl]

I don't know how long the ACC can continue on, but it's amusing to me that there may be football in Syracuse but not in State College, PA or Columbus, OH.

 

[Nick44]

The takeaway from this ordeal is not if Syracuse will play or not. It’s the utter lack of leadership that put us in this position in the first place.

Zero NCAA leadership (they can’t even review a transfer waiver request timely), conference commissioners who take there direction from college presidents/ADs and schools that have the audacity to say that they care for the student athlete while proposing to play, putting them at risk without any plan in place.

Without getting political on a sports forum, this lack of leadership started at the top in the same place and has trickled down to these institutions. The lack of direction and planning that should have commenced in January 2020 has left us in the position we currently find ourselves in. Shame on all of us.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Do we really think Syracuse football is playing this year and Michigan/Ohio State are not?

Color me skeptical that this is happening at all. I'm not going to get into the merits of the testing and what the schools are doing to mitigate things but once the Big 10 cancelled I assumed everyone will follow suit depending on how much additional practice they attempt to get from the players.

Yes, I think it is possible with the right protocols, and quasi-fearless leadership that is not paralyzed by liability and the fact that players may continue to express their demands. I would love to see Cuse be able to play while PSU, OSU, Mich all sit at home.

I also think it will be good because it will give hope to college bball and other sports and smaller schools, that maybe they can resume playing sooner than they thought

 

[elimunelson]

My question wasn't cheeky or sarcastic. I just do not think, regardless of what everyone has said, that we line up for a single play come September when some of our biggest programs in the country are on ice. Whether we are in a southern conference or not, i suspect we end up not playing. If that means the rest of the conference goes forward, can't answer it.

At the end of the day we are in a southern conference but we are a northeastern team where all of our peers have folded up shop for the time being.

 

[longislandcuse]

My question wasn't cheeky or sarcastic. I just do not think, regardless of what everyone has said, that we line up for a single play come September when some of our biggest programs in the country are on ice. Whether we are in a southern conference or not, i suspect we end up not playing. If that means the rest of the conference goes forward, can't answer it.

At the end of the day we are in a southern conference but we are a northeastern team where all of our peers have folded up shop for the time being.

If the ACC moves forward, we’re playing. I don’t think I can emphasize how big of a disaster that would be should we not do so.

 

[elimunelson]

If the ACC moves forward, we’re playing. I don’t think I can emphasize how big of a disaster that would be should we not do so.

I hope i'm right because the whole idea of playing in the fall, liability wise, is fraught with peril. The university can ill afford lawsuits that originate from the pandemic. I'm alumni first, fan second. I don't want to see the school on shaky ground because of this faux football season.

 

[skurey]

Honest opinion I'm highly considering not watching college sports again until they're paid

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Ohio State’s HC is talking about playing in January and their fanbase is pissed beyond belief now.

Why were their football players brought back to campus workouts in June?

The Big Ten are afraid of the players changing the status quo because of a pandemic.

The SEC/ACC/Big XII are not afraid of these changes.

The medical information the PAC-12 claims to have gotten should have been disclosed during their announcement to cancel all sports thru January 1st.

It would have put the SEC/ACC on the defensive and made themselves look like leaders.
It’s likely their information is telling them what they want to hear.

Duke has an elite medical school and their consultant told the ACC with caution they can play.


The pac-12 players movement IMO and it moving on to the Big Ten players movement is why those conferences cancelled now.

Michigan, Harvard and Penn Med schools are ranked way ahead of Duke (UNC is Top 10)
(Those rankings don't impress me. My brother interned at Hopkins, Residency at UNC, and Fellowship at Duke, and he's nothing special ).

 

[Jeremy L.]

Besides money (which could really make it a reality) I don't see how three conferences play in the fall, two don't, and then go out and have a CFP, bowl games, etc.

 

[Bayside44]

Yes - if we and fellow ACC schools stay disciplined we will play.

 

[dan7800]

Schools have been showing that $$$ is their #1 driving factor this year at the expense of health.

It wouldn't surprise me to see them play.

 

[elimunelson]

Schools have been showing that $$$ is their #1 driving factor this year at the expense of health.

It wouldn't surprise me to see them play.

Agreed. I would hope Syracuse comes to their senses if that is the driving issue here. We're smarter than that.

 

[Bayside44]

Schools have been showing that $$$ is their #1 driving factor this year at the expense of health.

It wouldn't surprise me to see them play.

How? If kids are clean they play, if the coaches are clean they coach. SU isn't putting COVID patients in University Village.

 

[elimunelson]

 

[Trueblue25]

Cali Award Predictions thread tentatively scheduled for September 1

 

[DilemaCuse]

My question wasn't cheeky or sarcastic. I just do not think, regardless of what everyone has said, that we line up for a single play come September when some of our biggest programs in the country are on ice. Whether we are in a southern conference or not, i suspect we end up not playing. If that means the rest of the conference goes forward, can't answer it.

At the end of the day we are in a southern conference but we are a northeastern team where all of our peers have folded up shop for the time being.

You really think we would not play if the rest of the conference moved forward because non-southern teams in other conferences aren't playing??? In this instance, what PSU or OSU does has no impact on the decisions at SU.

Newsflash, Syracuse takes their orders from the ACC, not the Big East, not other Eastern football teams. We have been in the ACC for over 6 years, some folks on here need to accept it.

 

[elimunelson]

You really think we would not play if the rest of the conference moved forward because non-southern teams in other conferences aren't playing??? In this instance, what PSU or OSU does has no impact on the decisions at SU.

Newsflash, Syracuse takes their orders from the ACC, not the Big East, not other Eastern football teams. We have been in the ACC for over 6 years, some folks on here need to accept it.

Syracuse should take orders from Syracuse. Syracuse should do what's best for their school and not what's best for NC State. We are in the ACC sure but that's a sports league essentially. Things are more important than that simple collaboration of schools that play certain sports.

My gut says we'll punt on this season because the Trustees/Chancellor will look themselves in the mirror and ask why we are doing this. Our neighbors are arbitrarily southern schools b/c we joined this conference for financial purposes but we align geographically with all the schools that have cancelled. That's Cornell, Colgate, Umass, Northwestern, etc.

Like i said, i look at this from the POV of an alum not a fan. I can live without college sports so things can normalize. As someone said this AM, why are we concerned with what the band is playing on the titanic after we just hit the iceberg

 

[DilemaCuse]

I guess we will know if we hear about ACC Presidents getting together to vote on this. Not sure if that is even in the works at all.

Now if they have a vote, Syracuse may vote not to play. That is possible, as seen by decision from Big10 Presidents.

But if they are in the minority and get voted down, and the ACC goes forward, and the ball is kicked, there is NO way I see SU deciding not to show up and put a team on the field and forfeit while the rest of the conference plays.
If that happens, I cant see SU Athletics ever being taken serious again.