House Settlement Approved

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[FloridaCuse]

Good article on the effect of the new rules on non-power conference schools and whether they should opt in.

Deadline, expedited College Sports Commission roll out, worries non-Power Conferences

With the opt-in deadline for House Settlement looming, non-Power 4 conferences express concern over College Sports Commission, NIL Go.

www.on3.com

 

[orange79]

Good article on the effect of the new rules on non-power conference schools and whether they should opt in.

Deadline, expedited College Sports Commission roll out, worries non-Power Conferences

With the opt-in deadline for House Settlement looming, non-Power 4 conferences express concern over College Sports Commission, NIL Go.

www.on3.com

So, is this a typo or an honest mistake, or is the Big West commissioner just not up on the facts? Or did some teams just get moved out of the P4? And what's with the odd number?

“The CFP (Power) Four will have 59 institutions (between) four conferences with potentially 65-percent of the weighted vote in Division I governance moving forward,” Butterly said, “and many of us may not even have a representative in the room where it’s going to happen.”

ACC - 18
SEC - 16
B1G - 18
B12 - 16
P4 - 68

 

[FloridaCuse]

So, is this a typo or an honest mistake, or is the Big West commissioner just not up on the facts? Or did some teams just get moved out of the P4? And what's with the odd number?

“The CFP (Power) Four will have 59 institutions (between) four conferences with potentially 65-percent of the weighted vote in Division I governance moving forward,” Butterly said, “and many of us may not even have a representative in the room where it’s going to happen.”

ACC - 18
SEC - 16
B1G - 18
B12 - 16
P4 - 68

Probably can't count.

 

[Consigliere]

Probably can't count.

Can empathize with that! ACC is 17 for football now, right? Or does Notre Dame get a full voting share since they have the scheduling agreement and share bowl tie ins?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

In college sports’ new pay-to-play world, can Syracuse keep up? At what price?

The cost to compete in college sports is increasing, leaving Syracuse to face renewed questions on whether it can keep up.

www.syracuse.com

 

[FrancoPizza]

College sports are becoming less appealing to me. I used to love seeing a freshman come in, learn, work hard... and by the time he was a senior I was really excited to see his progression. I knew all the players names because I watched them for years. I loved watching a guy like Hop or Lazarus Sims work their way up and into the starting lineup. Nowadays, I hardly learn the players' names and they are gone.

The only hope is we start seeing multi-year contracts.

 

[AngryOtto]

The only hope is we start seeing multi-year contracts.

I think there will be multiple year contracts. B1G is already using them. The issue for teams is if they overpay a player on a multi year contract and he is a bust. The player is not forgoing the money. Each school is working with a set amount of money too many long term contracts that don’t work out will impact the team.

 

[AngryOtto]

After read the article I could see the super league forming by 2030. The non power conferences will eventually want to be separated for more autonomy and control of their conferences.

 

[Archbold44]

After read the article I could see the super league forming by 2030. The non power conferences will eventually want to be separated for more autonomy and control of their conferences.

Probably makes sense. I think there is an issue where the schools want to be able to fund hoops at hoops levels (say $3M) without going all the way up to $20.5M because they do not want to fund football. But I do not see why they would not just opt in and not use the cap money toward football There is no floor as I understand it.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[HtownOrange]

Thanks, OX! Good interview. Wildhack believes the ACC is stable for a period, take it for what it is worth. (I think he has been reading this board and has inside info!)

I think JW knows there is a window in which to improve the ACC perception or "audition" for the P2. I think he is taking both options seriously.

 

[jordville]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

We can have up to 105 players on the roster. Not all of them are required to get full scholarships:

Syracuse will not change the number of scholarships provided to football players from its current number of 85, meaning the program will continue to rely on walk-ons or partial scholarship recipients to fill out the final spots of its roster.

“Fran (Brown) and I discussed it,” Wildhack said. “I think we’re in a good place. For some of the schools that are going to 105 (scholarships), with kids who are 86 to 105, are they going to stick around? Are they going to go in the portal? It’s going to be a dynamic and fluid environment for the next 12 months.”

Wildhack said the overall number of scholarships that Syracuse provides athletes will increase but declined to say by how much.

 

[upperdeck]

Dont we have more than 85 on the list on the recruiting board? are 20 of these non full scholie kids?

 

[DoubleDee]

This just feels icky. I don't like it.

 

[HtownOrange]

This just feels icky. I don't like it.

I think what what Wildhack is balancing is the need for the team v. the working capital to find everything. At this time, 85 is what they can afford with the $21MM. I don't think this is permanently set in stone. I don't believe this is what the University wants but has to do to gear up for the real goal. Just my speculation, I will gladly defer to facts as they arise.

 

[CNYGuy]

I think what what Wildhack is balancing is the need for the team v. the working capital to find everything. At this time, 85 is what they can afford with the $21MM. I don't think this is permanently set in stone. I don't believe this is what the University wants but has to do to gear up for the real goal. Just my speculation, I will gladly defer to facts as they arise.

I actually think that’s smart for a private school. From that I read every new scholarship you add counts against your “salary cap.” Would you rather have the 1.5+ million accounted for players 86-105 or break that up to let Fran have extra cash for players 1-20.

For competitive purposes I’d rather have an extra $90k to add to a blue chip recruit’s offer than a full scholarship for a backup longsnapper or fourth-string OL. You need to carry these positions for practice and in case of injury situation. But investing more into the top-end guys probably helps you win more games.

 

[Consigliere]

I think what what Wildhack is balancing is the need for the team v. the working capital to find everything. At this time, 85 is what they can afford with the $21MM. I don't think this is permanently set in stone. I don't believe this is what the University wants but has to do to gear up for the real goal. Just my speculation, I will gladly defer to facts as they arise.

Keep in mind that the first $2.5MM of any additional scholarships decriments the $20.5MM cap. The SEC has already announced that as a conference they will stay at 85 primarily ofr that reason. Considering that the bottom guys a=on the depth chart are the most likely to portal it makes more sense to use that funding as revenue shares for the top of the depth chart. Especially at a school like SU where the cost of a scholarship is much higher than it is for an instate player at a large state land grant institution.

 

[baggerbob]

Keep in mind that the first $2.5MM of any additional scholarships decriments the $20.5MM cap. The SEC has already announced that as a conference they will stay at 85 primarily ofr that reason. Considering that the bottom guys a=on the depth chart are the most likely to portal it makes more sense to use that funding as revenue shares for the top of the depth chart. Especially at a school like SU where the cost of a scholarship is much higher than it is for an instate player at a large state land grant institution.

And how many beyond 85 are ever going to play in a game.

 

[FloridaCuse]

The first of a thread of 11 posts. Anyone with access to X can read the whole thread. I'll summarize the points of the House of Representatives Bill below.

 

[FloridaCuse]

The first of a thread of 11 posts. Anyone with access to X can read the whole thread. I'll summarize the points of the House of Representatives Bill below.

Highlights of the Bill from Ross Dellenger's Posts:

1. Codifies the settlement, grants liability protestion, preempts state NIL laws & includes anti-employment clause. It brings regulations to agents & requires that schools provide athlete degree completion, post-grad healthcare, etc.
2. Prohibits athlete compensation over the new revenue sharing cap and requires that all NIL deals hold a "valid business purpose" and align with NIL Go's fair market value compensation range and the College Sports Commission's anti-circumvention rules.
3. Authorizes an association, such as the NCAA or CSC, to require athletes to disclose deals and aggregate & share publicly anonymized data of those deals.
4. Allows the establishment of a 1-time transfer rule & eligibility standards.
5. Places parameters and requirements around agents, most notably limiting agent compensation to 5% of a total athlete deal. [Coaches told Yahoo Sports that agents are often charging 10 to 20%.]
6. Requires schools to provide athletes with certain levels of academic support & out-of-pocket healthcare for ex-athletes within 3 years of leavaing school; and schools are not permitted to cut scholarships for injury or performance.
7. Requires schools to maintain 16 varsity sports teams, the FBS mimimum, as a way to protect Olympic programs.
8. Schools that earn at least $50 million annually in media rights revenue are not permitted to use student fees to support their athletic programs. [SEC and B1G?]
9. Permits schools to restrict athlete NIL deals if the violate the university's code of conduct or conflict with any existing school agreement, such as an athlete striking a deal with Nike while playing for an Adidas school.

Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports believes this Bill has a chance to quickly move through committee and onto the House floor. Its fate in the Senate is uncertain.

 

[HtownOrange]

Highlights of the Bill from Ross Dellenger's Posts:

1. Codifies the settlement, grants liability protestion, preempts state NIL laws & includes anti-employment clause. It brings regulations to agents & requires that schools provide athlete degree completion, post-grad healthcare, etc.
2. Prohibits athlete compensation over the new revenue sharing cap and requires that all NIL deals hold a "valid business purpose" and align with NIL Go's fair market value compensation range and the College Sports Commission's anti-circumvention rules.
3. Authorizes an association, such as the NCAA or CSC, to require athletes to disclose deals and aggregate & share publicly anonymized data of those deals.
4. Allows the establishment of a 1-time transfer rule & eligibility standards.
5. Places parameters and requirements around agents, most notably limiting agent compensation to 5% of a total athlete deal. [Coaches told Yahoo Sports that agents are often charging 10 to 20%.]
6. Requires schools to provide athletes with certain levels of academic support & out-of-pocket healthcare for ex-athletes within 3 years of leavaing school; and schools are not permitted to cut scholarships for injury or performance.
7. Requires schools to maintain 16 varsity sports teams, the FBS mimimum, as a way to protect Olympic programs.
8. Schools that earn at least $50 million annually in media rights revenue are not permitted to use student fees to support their athletic programs. [SEC and B1G?]
9. Permits schools to restrict athlete NIL deals if the violate the university's code of conduct or conflict with any existing school agreement, such as an athlete striking a deal with Nike while playing for an Adidas school.

Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports believes this Bill has a chance to quickly move through committee and onto the House floor. Its fate in the Senate is uncertain.

#8 should be titled the Rutgers Rule. How will they survive without student fees?