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House Settlement Approved

Okay maybe I was wrong, the sport might be dead in 5 years.
Or we go back to the pre-NIL days.

If the NFL creates a semi-pro pre-league like the NBA did, schools could go back to days of old... tuition, room & board + some expenses. It would be similar to the IVY league. Would people really watch a semi-pro league on TV? TV deals for the remaining conferences would be crushed.

Hopefully rules will be clarified and all payments to players will be limited and legit. Portal transfers should be limited (only once without sitting out a year unless a coach leaves).

Something tells me that even in that scenario, SEC & B18 schools will still offer under-the-table payments to prominent players.
 
Or we go back to the pre-NIL days.

If the NFL creates a semi-pro pre-league like the NBA did, schools could go back to days of old... tuition, room & board + some expenses. It would be similar to the IVY league. Would people really watch a semi-pro league on TV? TV deals for the remaining conferences would be crushed.

Hopefully rules will be clarified and all payments to players will be limited and legit. Portal transfers should be limited (only once without sitting out a year unless a coach leaves).

Something tells me that even in that scenario, SEC & B18 schools will still offer under-the-table payments to prominent players.
They always have, they likely always will.
 
Or we go back to the pre-NIL days.

If the NFL creates a semi-pro pre-league like the NBA did, schools could go back to days of old... tuition, room & board + some expenses. It would be similar to the IVY league. Would people really watch a semi-pro league on TV? TV deals for the remaining conferences would be crushed.

Hopefully rules will be clarified and all payments to players will be limited and legit. Portal transfers should be limited (only once without sitting out a year unless a coach leaves).

Something tells me that even in that scenario, SEC & B18 schools will still offer under-the-table payments to prominent players.
There is no scenario where players accept limited payments/transfers even if all college sports went back to ivy league rules. The cat is never going back in the bag, nor should it.
 
At some point this may end up with a collective bargaining agreement, whether or not the athletes are classified as employees. And with that the possibility of a "work" stoppage. Oh boy.
 
At some point this may end up with a collective bargaining agreement, whether or not the athletes are classified as employees. And with that the possibility of a "work" stoppage. Oh boy.
It should.
 
I wonder how much the other players care - I know the parents of a couple of kids getting small change at some programs and they seem to understand the pecking order, seem genuinely happy when someone gets more - raise all boats sort of thing.
 
The NFL needs a real developmental/minor league with each NFL team owning and financing one or two minor league teams. The NCAA needs to get some teeth in their rules enforcement or Congress will have to step in.

Keeping players too long prohibits schools from allowing younger players a shot at the same dream. While I don't worry as much about fairness as I do merit, a university's mission is to educate and when kids are not attending class at many schools, why should they deny opportunity to someone who may attend class over a 6-7-8 year player who has graduated or "graduated" (wink, nod).
 
The NFL needs a real developmental/minor league with each NFL team owning and financing one or two minor league teams. The NCAA needs to get some teeth in their rules enforcement or Congress will have to step in.

Keeping players too long prohibits schools from allowing younger players a shot at the same dream. While I don't worry as much about fairness as I do merit, a university's mission is to educate and when kids are not attending class at many schools, why should they deny opportunity to someone who may attend class over a 6-7-8 year player who has graduated or "graduated" (wink, nod).
I think the only chance of fixing the system is if Congress steps in. If they can agreement. The biggest hurdle may be whether it will include a collective bargaining agreement, with or without unionizing. Maybe the only other chance is if the P4 breaks away from the NCAA for football and all schools agree on a set of rules that can be and is enforced. But the obstacle to that may be certain states that prohibit their state universities from agreeing. A question may be whether, as you point out, the NFL is starting to have concerns about the future of their free development system.
 
I think the only chance of fixing the system is if Congress steps in. If they can agreement. The biggest hurdle may be whether it will include a collective bargaining agreement, with or without unionizing. Maybe the only other chance is if the P4 breaks away from the NCAA for football and all schools agree on a set of rules that can be and is enforced. But the obstacle to that may be certain states that prohibit their state universities from agreeing. A question may be whether, as you point out, the NFL is starting to have concerns about the future of their free development system.
I prefer Congress stay out of sports but they have acted before and should do so when any industry gets so far out of whack they are barely functional, at least in the issue at hand. See baseball, job safety, traffic safety, etc.

You are spot on that the schools need to subject themselves to one authority for the good of college sports. The states getting involved should be left out of the discussion. They will only sit on the sidelines for a year or two before caving. Mississippi should not have more influence than any other state, nor should any other. Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio, et al., yes, I am looking at all of you. If states want to have influence, be at the negotiating table to establish the rules and waive the option of going to state courts, deferring to federal courts, the rules are the same and laws are the same in all 50 states. Also, allow for sever punishments in the accountability portion of governance. Establish standards for punishment for violations to be consistent AND effective. No more Directional State U suffering for Big State U's violations. And, yes, the private schools are treated equally with the state schools!

Whether the NFL will step up and accept a few million dollars off the top to pay for a minor league is probably a non starter. Owners are not likely to make the money back for funding a minor league. The only real advantage is that they would have a ready pool for injury and stockpiling a few key payers. Also, a place for rehab for players working their way back to the field.
 
I think the only chance of fixing the system is if Congress steps in. If they can agreement. The biggest hurdle may be whether it will include a collective bargaining agreement, with or without unionizing. Maybe the only other chance is if the P4 breaks away from the NCAA for football and all schools agree on a set of rules that can be and is enforced. But the obstacle to that may be certain states that prohibit their state universities from agreeing. A question may be whether, as you point out, the NFL is starting to have concerns about the future of their free development system.
Not like there's anything more important going on right now for Congress to handle.

But yeah, Congress definitely knows how to fix things!
 
I prefer Congress stay out of sports but they have acted before and should do so when any industry gets so far out of whack they are barely functional, at least in the issue at hand. See baseball, job safety, traffic safety, etc.

You are spot on that the schools need to subject themselves to one authority for the good of college sports. The states getting involved should be left out of the discussion. They will only sit on the sidelines for a year or two before caving. Mississippi should not have more influence than any other state, nor should any other. Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio, et al., yes, I am looking at all of you. If states want to have influence, be at the negotiating table to establish the rules and waive the option of going to state courts, deferring to federal courts, the rules are the same and laws are the same in all 50 states. Also, allow for sever punishments in the accountability portion of governance. Establish standards for punishment for violations to be consistent AND effective. No more Directional State U suffering for Big State U's violations. And, yes, the private schools are treated equally with the state schools!

Whether the NFL will step up and accept a few million dollars off the top to pay for a minor league is probably a non starter. Owners are not likely to make the money back for funding a minor league. The only real advantage is that they would have a ready pool for injury and stockpiling a few key payers. Also, a place for rehab for players working their way back to the field.
NFL could probably achieve a ready pool for a lot less money by expanding the number of players on practice squads.
 
NFL could probably achieve a ready pool for a lot less money by expanding the number of players on practice squads.
Agreed, but they generate no new revenue nor allow the players to see the field regularly. There is a benefit to actually playing. At least with a minor league team some expenses are recouped, the pool of players is much larger, cost per player is reduced significantly, and they may drive more loyalty to the parent team (unless they trade minor league teams every decade or so for fun like the MLB does).
 

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