I really couldn't be any more disappointed

[OrangeDW]

we have 2 central ny guards playing 35 + minutes . one is a major project and 1 is the coaches son.
enjoy the local connections and feel good stories. . speaks volumes to our recruiting efforts. small pond.

The 2010 team also had two central NY guards starting. Irrelevant.

 

[HakAttack]

This team will be a very good team, they will make their shots, they are young, and have lots of talent.

 

[Scooch]

This team will be a very good team, they will make their shots, they are young, and have lots of talent.

It’s funny how people can see things completely differently, because I was thinking tonight that this might be the least talented SU team I’ve ever seen, and that it’s likely we finish the year with a losing record.

 

[pearl31]

No disrespect obviously, I just have no idea why folks are too disappointed or expected too much from this team. I have been watching Syracuse basketball for over 30 years and it has been clear as day to me this is one of the least talented teams (maybe the least) I can remember. You can still win with the zone and great teamwork without elite talent. Maybe that will happen here, but don't hold your breath.

don't get me wrong I figured this would be total roller-coaster season, ebbing and flowing with our shooting, bubblicious as ever - but tonight against a questionable team (maybe they'll end up being good in the b12 but I kind of doubt it) they just wilted, just looked overmatched... did not expect that... hope like hell they improve and it can be a fun season... dunno tho

 

[CuseMan4]

Don’t get me wrong here I love JB and everything he has done for this program, continues to do for this program, this school and the community. But I CANNOT stand where the past few years in pressers he will say “we aren’t talented enough to do...” or “they outplayed us” or “they were the better team”. Phrases like that, we are freaking Syracuse we are probably a step below the Dukes of the world prestige/traditionally whether we like to admit it or not but those excuses for a presser after a loss are so lame. Your job is to make sure our team is prepared, your job is to make sure we have the players/talent, your job is to make sure they play hard. Now he didn’t exactly elude to that tonight but giants comments weren’t far off and he’s hasn’t surely said that multiple time the past few years. It’s basically admitted you didn’t do your job up to par. It just irks me because if a coach that has been here for 3-5 years said something like that the fan base would go nuts. Yes JB has done great things like I said but my point here is we CANNOT let the standards of this program slip and that is EXACTLY what is happening. This program has flatlined the last few years and everyone can see it. Two final four miracle runs have saved face for a bunch of mediocre at best regular seasons. This program is stuck in the mud right now and thats the honest truth. As fans, alumni, coaches, etc...you simply can’t be alright with how things are going we have a standard here at Syracuse and I’m sorry the last few seasons and most likely this season have NOT been it and that needs to be fixed. Agree to disagree.

 

[HakAttack]

It’s funny how people can see things completely differently, because I was thinking tonight that this might be the least talented SU team I’ve ever seen, and that it’s likely we finish the year with a losing record.

I don’t see how anyone who’s been watching Syracuse basketball since the NC year can say that this year’s team looks like a good team.

It’s quite possibly the least talented team we’ve had since 03’.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

or depressed with this team than I am right now. Just awful in every possible way. If JB somehow preserves his non-losing-season streak going w this team - well I'll be very surprised

Wait

 

[Scooch]

I don’t see how anyone who’s been watching Syracuse basketball since the NC year can say that this year’s team looks like a good team.

It’s quite possibly the least talented team we’ve had since 03’.

I’ve been following SU hoops since I became a student in 1991, and this team appears to be the worst I’ve ever seen. Hughes is the only starter who remotely resembles a player who’d be starting on a good SU team.

 

[Jake]

I don’t see how anyone who’s been watching Syracuse basketball since the NC year can say that this year’s team looks like a good team.

It’s quite possibly the least talented team we’ve had since 03’.

...Since ‘82. This is Andre Hawkins bad.

Here’s the best SU analogy I can come up with. When I see this team walk on the court, it reminds me of the first time I saw Troy Nunes trot out on the field.

It’s just not the standard I’m used to.

 

[HakAttack]

...Since ‘82

I mean I’m only speaking for myself. I was a senior in HS during the 02-03’ campaign, and didn’t regularly watch SU basketball before that. But if you say we’re as bad as any team since 82’, I’ll take your word for it.

 

[tbonezone]

to be fair the calendar still says november.

 

[cuseattle]

...Since ‘82. This is Andre Hawkins bad.

Here’s the best SU analogy I can come up with. When I see this team walk on the court, it reminds me of the first time I saw Troy Nunes trot out on the field.

It’s just not the standard I’m used to.

Like Joe G, Hawkins was NYS high school POY.

 

[Wrinkle]

The idea that this team will not post a winning record is outrageous

 

[Sherman20]

The silver lining is that you have to have expectations in order for the team to disappoint. If the last few years have taught me anything, it’s to go into games with absolutely zero thoughts that anything remotely good could possibly happen.

Well; that’s ridiculous and depressing. Syracuse basketball shouldn’t be this bad.

 

[pearl31]

make no mistake-
I will absolutely LOVE for this thread to be proven to be dumb/unfounded/premature/etc - and maybe I'm just venting after a horrible game and in the morning I'll reconsider things...

 

[FrancoPizza]

When you’ve lost pearl31 you know we’re in trouble. At this point if we’re going to have a losing season we might as well tank... 9-22 or something to speed up the transition timetable. Does 14-17 versus 9-22 really matter in the big picture at this point? I have no idea if ADJW can make the right hire but i do know that delaying the transition is also delaying the opportunity to turn this ship around.

 

[ssbriefcase]

At this point if we’re going to have a losing season we might as well tank...

Umm...We're not getting a higher draft pick

 

[CuseFaninVT]

When you’ve lost pearl31 you know we’re in trouble. At this point if we’re going to have a losing season we might as well tank... 9-22 or something to speed up the transition timetable. Does 14-17 versus 9-22 really matter in the big picture at this point? I have no idea if ADJW can make the right hire but i do know that delaying the transition is also delaying the opportunity to turn this ship around.

That's not how it works in college basketball. Especially with a 75 year old coach at the helm. He's not doing anything (intentionally) to help tank one of his last seasons.

 

[FloridaFan]

The idea that this team will not post a winning record is outrageous

No point in trying. It’s a bunch of upset people trying to pat themselves on the back saying Woe is us

 

[Sherman20]

Don’t get me wrong here I love JB and everything he has done for this program, continues to do for this program, this school and the community. But I CANNOT stand where the past few years in pressers he will say “we aren’t talented enough to do...” or “they outplayed us” or “they were the better team”. Phrases like that, we are freaking Syracuse we are probably a step below the Dukes of the world prestige/traditionally whether we like to admit it or not but those excuses for a presser after a loss are so lame. Your job is to make sure our team is prepared, your job is to make sure we have the players/talent, your job is to make sure they play hard. Now he didn’t exactly elude to that tonight but giants comments weren’t far off and he’s hasn’t surely said that multiple time the past few years. It’s basically admitted you didn’t do your job up to par. It just irks me because if a coach that has been here for 3-5 years said something like that the fan base would go nuts. Yes JB has done great things like I said but my point here is we CANNOT let the standards of this program slip and that is EXACTLY what is happening. This program has flatlined the last few years and everyone can see it. Two final four miracle runs have saved face for a bunch of mediocre at best regular seasons. This program is stuck in the mud right now and thats the honest truth. As fans, alumni, coaches, etc...you simply can’t be alright with how things are going we have a standard here at Syracuse and I’m sorry the last few seasons and most likely this season have NOT been it and that needs to be fixed. Agree to disagree.

Agree on all of this. EXCEPT. The 2013 NCAA Final Four was NOT a miracle run. Stop with that nonsense. That team was very good and had real talent on the roster. We beat #1 Louisville on the road, finished 4th or 5th in a loaded Big East, made the Big East championship game, and ended up as a #4 seed in the tourney. 4 seeds have a good probability of making the FF. What that team had that this one desperately needs is top level athletes, size, length and some physical players.

 

[Scooch]

Agree on all of this. EXCEPT. The 2013 NCAA Final Four was NOT a miracle run. Stop with that nonsense. That team was very good and had real talent on the roster. We beat #1 Louisville on the road, finished 4th or 5th in a loaded Big East, made the Big East championship game, and ended up as a #4 seed in the tourney. 4 seeds have a good probability of making the FF. What that team had that this one doesn’t is top level athletes, size, length and some physical players.

The 2013 team would beat this team by 30.

 

[Sherman20]

...Since ‘82. This is Andre Hawkins bad.

Here’s the best SU analogy I can come up with. When I see this team walk on the court, it reminds me of the first time I saw Troy Nunes trot out on the field.

It’s just not the standard I’m used to.

1996-97 was pretty bad, too, but we had some young raw talent on that team that showed great long term potential.

 

[Madbiker]

When you recruit a team of mostly marginal not top 100 recruits, don't be surprised by results like this game. I still root hard for these guys but fear there's gonna be a lot of these games this season.

 

[Ajflood12]

this may be a worst post of the year nominee

Although dramatic...isn’t completely inaccurate. With all the recruits either not coming or not living up to expectations...we are playing a 6 foot freshman guard as starting PG. recruiting has been really unimpressive. I really like girard too.

 

[Jasoncuse]

to be fair the calendar still says november.

That’s actually scary