If TCU can do it SU can also

[CuseLegacy]

 

[shu 49]

Who cares? Miami sucks at football.

No they have the number 3 ranked recruiting class so far

 

[gbo]

People don’t realize how much talent the top schools bury on the depth charts. Portal is a bit of an equalizer for some.

And apparently a nonstarter for others...

 

[OrangeinBoston]

No they have the number 3 ranked recruiting class so far

If you haven't noticed, Miami has had top ranked classes for years. And, they still suck at football.

 

[storange]

As soon as NY State has half the recruits that are just within the Dallas/Ft Worth metro I'm with ya

Yea but TCu is about 10 th in the pecking order after Texas , Alabama, A @ M , LS U and on and on . So there is some validity to the post .

 

[money3189]

Yea but TCu is about 10 th in the pecking order after Texas , Alabama, A @ M , LS U and on and on . So there is some validity to the post .

And yet TCU still has 9 four stars committed. There is not one four star in the state of NY this year.

 

[storange]

And yet TCU still has 9 four star committed. There is not one four star in the state of NY this year.

Not so for many years , they found a way to break through !

 

[MG44]

I was surprised to see TCU was smaller than SU

 

[Cuse12]

NGL halftime at Clemson the thought crossed my mind… which in itself shows progress.

For now let’s work towards a bowl better than the pinstripe and get better every year.

Man this season was nuts. I literally thought the same, I literally couldn’t believe that we were going to be a top 10 team that controlled its destiny to the CFP lol then Shrader hurt and our season kinda derailed. Wild, but like you said the fact I had a point of thinking that’s possible says something I guess

 

[shu 49]

If you haven't noticed, Miami has had top ranked classes for years. And, they still suck at football.

I thought they were like top 20 but didn’t know they were up there all the time.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Not so for many years , they found a way to break through !

9 total across recruiting classes and transfers. Don’t we have 5 or 6 ourselves counting portal transfers?

 

[kcsu]

Do you know whats crazy
Its that SU football might be in a better position to make the playoffs than SU basketball making the sweet 16

 

[anomander]

The chancellor at TCU was telling a story.
Many years ago now, the previous coach Garry Patterson approached him with a request
"What do you need coach?"
"We really need an indoor practice facility, but it will cost about $7 million (then)"
So a little while later the chancellor was speaking at an alumni luncheon event, and he spoke about the football programs need for an indoor practice facility.
"Now it will take some time" he said "because $7 million in extra donations is a lot, but I know that you will do all you can to help"
After lunch, two alumni approached him and said "Chancellor we would like to help with the practice facility"
"Oh that is great" the Chancellor said "how much do you think you can contribute"
The two alumni looked at each other and finally said "Oh! Well, all of it."
Sammy Baugh practice facility done.

Just a TCU story, football in Texas.

This is continuing to upgrade a $160m dollar all football facility they built 6 years ago. They will also be upgrading their stadium.


TCU may seem like a small private school, but they routinely have top 25 recruiting classes.

 

[Bayside44]

And yet TCU still has 9 four stars committed. There is not one four star in the state of NY this year.

The amount of talent and football playing in Texas is in another stratosphere. A family friend just moved and they're in South Lake (or West, whichever). Kids are REQUIRED to play football (they do track if not). The talent and time dedicated to football is staggering. And the playing demographic and population density is about perfect, unlike NYS.

A couple of smarties here earlier this season refused the notion that TCU can be any good - the place is absolutely awash in cash.

 

[money3189]

The amount of talent and football playing in Texas is in another stratosphere. A family friend just moved and they're in South Lake (or West, whichever). Kids are REQUIRED to play football (they do track if not). The talent and time dedicated to football is staggering. And the playing demographic and population density is about perfect, unlike NYS.

A couple of smarties here earlier this season refused the notion that TCU can be any good - the place is absolutely awash in cash.

I played freshman football in Houston and the rest of my years in upstate NY. Totally different worlds.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

I was surprised to see TCU was smaller than SU

I believe five ACC schools are smaller than us as well. Wake, considerably so.

For me, the issue is not one of "if TCU can do it, so can we". Rather, it is an issue of "we have made the commitment to be a P5 program, so we need to have more winning seasons than non-winning seasons." The whole "consistently good, rather than occasionally great" benchmark that Dino himself established.

For me, I don't measure us against a school that gets to the playoffs, regardless of their size. I just want the basics at this point. I feel that's a fair expectation.

 

[orange_in_VA]

Yea but TCu is about 10 th in the pecking order after Texas , Alabama, A @ M , LS U and on and on . So there is some validity to the post .

We're at the bottom of the pecking order for NY D1 kids too but we also don't have 1000+ D1 football players in our state every year to choose from. Texas 3 stars > 3 stars from basically any other state too.

 

[MikeSU02]

I’m not trying to be TCU and make it to the title game as a measurement.

But I do want once every five years for at least a legitimate non-zero chance / punchers chance at being in the hunt for the expanded 12 team playoff.

 

[NJCuse97]

Kind of like when Ensley, and some others, funded the indoor facility at Syracuse.

Not true by a long shot. Facility was designed and in construction when Ensley came up with a naming donation. He delayed the build to make sure his name was large enough on the facade (or so I heard).

 

[rrlbees]

Not true by a long shot. Facility was designed and in construction when Ensley came up with a naming donation. He delayed the build to make sure his name was large enough on the facade (or so I heard).

Ensley was the largest donor but far from the first.

 

[NJCuse97]

Ensley was the largest donor but far from the first.

My only real disappointment is that if money like Ensley’s came in early, the design could have been more elaborate or better appointed.

 

[storange]

We're at the bottom of the pecking order for NY D1 kids too but we also don't have 1000+ D1 football players in our state every year to choose from. Texas 3 stars > 3 stars from basically any other state too.

Last line is an opinion. Just like when a kid commits early to SU he won’t get more then three stars unless he can part the Red Sea. If a kid commits early to a Factory he is guaranteed 4 or 5 . The tail wags the dog. We obviously have inherent disadvantages recruiting, which is why , even though I don’t like it , the portal could be good for us .

 

[BrooklynCuse]

I thought this thread was going to be about the 3-3-5 defense… it looked great against UM.

 

[rrlbees]

I thought this thread was going to be about the 3-3-5 defense… it looked great against UM.

Michigan scored 45 points

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Michigan scored 45 points

yeah if we gave up 45 there would be 10,000 post about needing more size at DT