If you could add one G5 team to the ACC...

[dasher]

Another Florida school adds no value to the ACC Network.

And I'm sure both FSU and the U will be thrilled to be competing against another in-state P5 school for recruits.

1. Cinci
2. WFVU
3. Temple
4. Directional Florida

999. UConn

I have lost all respect for you. Why is UConn so high in your list? For me, they are at about 2000000000000

 

[007]

None...wait for ND (or Texas)

 

[nzm136]

WVU for obvious reasons.

if I can’t do that, then Georgetown for obvious reasons.

if I can’t do basketball onlyand I have to pick someone, then Tulane. They’re a good school, and I’d love to get exposure in New Orleans.

 

[Nick44]

Give me one of the service academies. Does the U.S. Space Force have a football program yet?

 

[orange79]

Over umass?!?! What man. Temple was a terrible OBE opponent especially not even playing BE hoops. Losing to them to not make a BCS game was the programs all time worst loss in my lifetime.

I think uconn dumping FB is going to work out amazing so while they’d be the last team I’d add when they were floundering in the ACK I’d take them now.

Army would be fine no Buffalo. We aren’t good against UCF or USF so not them.

I’d go San Diego St to pull their weight and get us into a new market.

1. SDSU
2. Umass
3. Army
4. Colorado St
5. BYU

Because nothing says Atlantic Coast Conference like San Diego State...

 

[PhatOrange]

Why the temple love?

I like Temple because of geography. It's an area where we recruit and where we have a lot of fans and travel is easy. It's a good fit for Syracuse.

Cincy doesn't do a lot for us but it's a good fit for Pitt and LVille...but in terms of recruiting, Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown is just a 5 hour drive from Syracuse. We probably should try and leverage that more than we do. If you added Cincy it's a foothold for us to maybe do that.

Another northern school would be better overall for Syracuse.

 

[TexanMark]

We'll assume life goes back to normal and people attend games in nearly the same numbers. Also, I'll take off my Orange colored glasses.

1. WVU (assumes they make less or close to less)

Pros: State (yes, small) Flagship, rivalries with several existing teams, tightens geographic footprint, disapora of WV fans helps fill away game stadiums/arena

Cons: academics, bad blood with ACC the league from past rebuffs, hard to get to, fans can be an issue

2. Cincy

Pros: Would jump in a heartbeat, helps ND and Louisville geographically, big research university, VG sports facilities, AD somewhat familiar with the ACC, rivalries with several existing teams, will travel well to most ACC schools (geographic nearness or diaspora), fans are usually well behaved

Cons: Pro sports market, brand is decent but not as good as WV, some academic concerns, overcoming commuter school rap

3. UCF

Pros: Would jump in a heartbeat, huge school, increasing their brand, overtaken USF in sports, equidistant to FSU and Miami, supports FB, big metro with no NFL, easy to fly too, get Citrus Bowl?

Cons: overcoming commuter school image, academics improving but not up to ACC standards, new money and new fans, basketball support is weak (Orlando Magic is competition), will they support a losing football team?, FSU and Miami will feel threatened.

Temple not considered...they can't even get a stadium built.

UConn not considered I kinda like to keep Clemson and FSU in the league.

I used to shill for UConn but they are a mess and got exposed as a Paper Tiger

 

[BomberOrange]

OP said G5 right? So no wvu. I’d take Cincy as they are solid in football and hoops.

 

[orange79]

OP said G5 right? So no wvu.

Yep. There are people in the thread who either 1) need to read the thread title more closely, or 2) need to refresh themselves on what G5 means.

 

[TexanMark]

Yep. There are people in the thread who either 1) need to read the thread title more closely, or 2) need to refresh themselves on what G5 means.

We'll no... reread his original post. Just a team that makes less than the ACC. In WVU's case they would surely jump to the ACC even if they took slightly less $$ compared to the Big12. HokieMark gave us some leeway to run with it.

 

[rrlbees]

WVU

 

[RF2044]

And not even then.

Amen.

 

[orange79]

We'll no... reread his original post. Just a team that makes less than the ACC. In WVU's case they would surely jump to the ACC even if they took slightly less $$ compared to the Big12. HokieMark gave us some leeway to run with it.

Then HokieMark needs to check his thread title.

Personally, I think the thread works better solely with G5 teams.

 

[TexanMark]

if georgraphy was not a consideration (it is) San Diego State.

They could get us the new IN-N-OUT Burger Bowl too

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Has to be Cincy. They are in the ACC footprint. It isn’t in the middle of nowhere. They add a new market. They help add Ohio football recruiting. The have a history with former Big East schools. They are decent in football and basketball which will satisfy the concerns of both the football and basketball schools. Only issue is academic fit.

Temple hits most of those as well but they aren’t as strong in football which could be an issue.

I am not a fan of hybrids but you can also consider an Army/St Johns combo for NYC or Navy/Georgetown for MD/DC. Or even Nova instead of Georgetown for Philly.

UCF/USF would water down BBall and hurt for recruiting Florida.

UConn has no value.

 

[JeffCuse]

They could get us the new IN-N-OUT Burger Bowl too

Or an actual IN-N-OUT burger

 

[CU44SE]

This is an interesting topic. I know G5 was asked.
1- The big fishes that are possibly attainable at some point is ND and Texas. Those are both the number 1 options, no one else is close. But, highly unlikely for either one. I think if one committed, maybe the other one would commit but I don't see it happening unless the Big 12 does something that really irritates Texas.

2- If as we believe, those two are unattainable the next best option would be WVU which I think would be attainable and I truly believe they would come if offered. Louisville getting into the conference with their academic history makes this much more conceivable to believe the ACC might actually invite WVU. It would bring back a Syracuse Rival and a Pitt Rival. Pretty decent programs in both basketball and football. Dare I say, it would be fun to play and beat WVU again.

3- Finally to the G5 teams that was asked. The three finalists for me would be Houston, Memphis, and Cincy.

-My first choice, Houston. They have the number 8 television market, the only ACC market with higher number of viewers is New York. They have a decent football program and with Kelvin Sampson, they have been a very decent basketball program. It would get into a market that the ACC is not currently in, more viewers. It would also open Texas for recruiting, who knows how many players would actually leave texas but it is a very fertile location and new recruiting territory. The only downsize in my mind is that they are not really close to the ACC locations like the other two schools

-Second choice would be either memphis or Cincy. Not sure which one I would pick. For some reason Memphis intrigues me more but Cincy is probably the better choice of the 2. Cincy has a larger television market, more fertile recruiting ground, slightly closer to other schools, and has a history with more of the schools then Memphis. Both programs are pretty equal in both football and basketball, memphis might have a slight edge in fanbase though. But with everything else said, I have to say Cincy would be the pick over Memphis.


4- Lastly, I don't understand the UCF and USF people. Decent football programs, but they don't give the ACC anything they don't already have. They both have bad basketball programs, we are already in Florida with Miami and FSU. We don't need more Florida teams to dilute the product, dilute recruiting. Plus the fanbases are almost non existent at USF. And outside of Orlando and relatively recently no one has cared about UCF. USF and UCF just doesn't do it.

 

[Trueblue25]

Obviously WVU is choice 1.


The OP said g5

 

[All4SU]

We don’t need another Florida school.
We don’t need any partial members.
We’re not getting Texas. We don’t need Houston in an Eastern Conference.
UCon will soon be back to 1aa.
UMass brings nothing.
Buffalo brings nothing.
I love adding the Philly market. But Temple doesn’t actually deliver the Philly market. Could they potentially? Yes, potentially.
I love the service academies. But I just don’t see them as full members. (See point #2.)
I don’t see Memphis as bringing that much to the table except a fun city to go to, and that’s not enough.
Maryland would be great but that ship has sailed and they don’t fit the description of this thread. Adding Buttgers might be fun for wins, but frankly I’m enjoying watching them get their teeth handed to them by OSU, Michigan, etc. ( And again, have to respect the thread.)
We don’t need ANOTHER Carolina school like ECU.
WVU is great for all of the reasons listed above, and I think they would jump at it. Granted they don’t fit the thread title either. But...
Then there’s Cincy. Cincy it is.

 

[KaiserUEO]

We'll no... reread his original post. Just a team that makes less than the ACC. In WVU's case they would surely jump to the ACC even if they took slightly less $$ compared to the Big12. HokieMark gave us some leeway to run with it.

his leeway gave an example, WV does not qualify.

this is a terrible highjack of a post.

Anyone who says WV should be ashamed.

the answer is Cincinnati with Memphis 1A.

although SDSU makes sense because nothing makes sense anymore anyway.

 

[TexanMark]

his leeway gave an example, WV does not qualify.

this is a terrible highjack of a post.

Anyone who says WV should be ashamed.

the answer is Cincinnati with Memphis 1A.

although SDSU makes sense because nothing makes sense anymore anyway.

 

[Chip]

I feel like, as a school that struggles to bring in talent, the answer is hopefully no one. No more mouths to feed.

But to play along, let's go with Houston. 4th largest population, so it should check the TV $ box. And if it helps us land a Texas recruit here or there, then great. No real threat to them coming into our recruiting area, they have plenty nearby.

 

[Trueblue25]

his leeway gave an example, WV does not qualify.

this is a terrible highjack of a post.

Anyone who says WV should be ashamed.

the answer is Cincinnati with Memphis 1A.

although SDSU makes sense because nothing makes sense anymore anyway.

Unwilling to reward Memphis’ scummy basketball program with an invite.

It’s Cincy or Houston for me.

 

[TexanMark]

I feel like, as a school that struggles to bring in talent, the answer is hopefully no one. No more mouths to feed.

But to play along, let's go with Houston. 4th largest population, so it should check the TV $ box. And if it helps us land a Texas recruit here or there, then great. No real threat to them coming into our recruiting area, they have plenty nearby.

Houston only makes sense if you bring in UT

UT/TAMU have a big part of the Houston Market
Plus it is a pro sports town.

 

[Trueblue25]

Who would be more ideal if people could stomach it?

SMU or Memphis?