I'm starting to wonder if maybe the old man does know

[dasher]

something about hoop. Just first games but Newton, 10 minutes 3 pts and 2 rebounds
Kadary 15 minutes 4 pts. 2 turnovers and 1 ast. Just one game but not exactly earth shattering.
And I wish both players well. But Jb didn't win all of those games by being dumb. And I have to
think he cares about winning more than we do.

 

[jdubs30]

Also with how well he did in the transfer portal

 

[GooseMutt]

Boeheim is no savant. But he has a lot of common sense

 

[pearl31]

yeah but Kadary has to learn m2m defense all over again after being ruined by the zone for a year and that's why he played bad and fouled out in 15min of playing time
(according to certain hoops blog)

 

[sl95sufan]

Looks like KR may have fouled out? in just 15 minutes?

 

[UpstateSM]

something about hoop. Just first games but Newton, 10 minutes 3 pts and 2 rebounds
Kadary 15 minutes 4 pts. 2 turnovers and 1 ast. Just one game but not exactly earth shattering.
And I wish both players well. But Jb didn't win all of those games by being dumb. And I have to
think he cares about winning more than we do.

Willard said that Kadary didn't play well and fouled out because the zone isn't real defense and he has to teach him how to play man-to-man.

Certified clown.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Carey and Goodine are the tenth men for their teams too.

 

[General20]

something about hoop. Just first games but Newton, 10 minutes 3 pts and 2 rebounds
Kadary 15 minutes 4 pts. 2 turnovers and 1 ast. Just one game but not exactly earth shattering.
And I wish both players well. But Jb didn't win all of those games by being dumb. And I have to
think he cares about winning more than we do.

I shudder to think of the things that would have been written here had Girard put up 4 and 1 and Richmond put up 20 and 7.

 

[kjb120]

After watching a bit of the Seton Hall game and our first game, Kadary made a huge mistake transferring there. Playing 20-25 minutes a game with our current team would have made Kadary look like a superstar between his passing and driving ability surrounded by the shooters that we have.

 

[GooseMutt]

I shudder to think of the things that would have been written here had Girard put up 4 and 1 and Richmond put up 20 and 7.

Indeed but didn’t happen

 

[dasher]

Willard said that Kadary didn't play well and fouled out because the zone isn't real defense and he has to teach him how to play man-to-man.

Certified clown.

Well, in fairness Willard has accomplished so much.

 

[UpstateSM]

Well, in fairness Willard has accomplished so much.

Listen it takes a special coach to lose in the first weekend four times, have a losing conference record, and have two second round drafts picks in a decade at a Big East school.

 

[CousCuse]

I feel bad now that Kadary transferred, like he got bad advice from his "advisors". He would have had a ridiculous amount of assists on this years team.

 

[ar inj]

I watched maybe 5-6 minutes. (It happens; we all look when we drive by and I was scrolling through the dial (but using a remote)). Kadary looked a little lost on D. He also looked to my eye to be heavier, and not necessarily in a good way.

He is gone. Wish him well and will not be stalking him on ESPN

And Bill Raftery, one of my all time favorites, made be turn it off when he suggested Kadary had to overcome having played zone D when my recollection is that his prep school also played zone

 

[Sherman20]

something about hoop. Just first games but Newton, 10 minutes 3 pts and 2 rebounds
Kadary 15 minutes 4 pts. 2 turnovers and 1 ast. Just one game but not exactly earth shattering.
And I wish both players well. But Jb didn't win all of those games by being dumb. And I have to
think he cares about winning more than we do.

Agreed. And JB wanted Kadary to return. He wanted him on this team and thought he’d be a very good college player and a possible pro.

That said, JB is a better coach than Willard and would put KR in a better position to succeed at what he does best and make it to the NBA. Same with Newton. JB has put more marginal/lower ranked guys in the NBA than most coaches. Kadary made a mistake in leaving, but he’s talented so he might make it to the NBA despite dum dum Willard.

 

[Cuseball]

something about hoop. Just first games but Newton, 10 minutes 3 pts and 2 rebounds
Kadary 15 minutes 4 pts. 2 turnovers and 1 ast. Just one game but not exactly earth shattering.
And I wish both players well. But Jb didn't win all of those games by being dumb. And I have to
think he cares about winning more than we do.

Yep, I think both players are good players and should end up fine if they work hard and be patient. However, I was always infuriated by the refrain that Jimmy was making decisions because he was excessively stubborn and needed to be right vs wanting to win. That was and will never be the case...he is as competitive as it gets.

Cuse!

 

[asj410]

I watched maybe 5-6 minutes. (It happens; we all look when we drive by and I was scrolling through the dial (but using a remote)). Kadary looked a little lost on D. He also looked to my eye to be heavier, and not necessarily in a good way.

I'd say. He apparently went from 180 last year to 200 this year.

 

[Cuseball]

I watched maybe 5-6 minutes. (It happens; we all look when we drive by and I was scrolling through the dial (but using a remote)). Kadary looked a little lost on D. He also looked to my eye to be heavier, and not necessarily in a good way.

He is gone. Wish him well and will not be stalking him on ESPN

And Bill Raftery, one of my all time favorites, made be turn it off when he suggested Kadary had to overcome having played zone D when my recollection is that his prep school also played zone

I watched the whole game (mostly because I love college hoops and partly to see Kadary). Agree with both comments on K. He got beat on a couple drives and bailed out by the SH big blocking shots. He shot 2-7 from the field and did seem a little heavier. The biggest concern for him is that SH's other guards looked better and as Jimmy said they have 5 of them.

Cuse!

 

[capeorange]

Carey and Goodine are the tenth men for their teams too.

But Carey will always have the uconn game...

 

[Ringostar57]

Robert Braswell Charlotte 14 minutes 3/4 2/3 3 pointers 8 points 0 reb 0 assists 0 stls 0 blocks barely beat Monmouth 68-66, not really a stat stuffer.

 

[capeorange]

Agreed. But JB wanted Kadary to return. He wanted him on this team and thought he’d be a very good college player and a possible pro.

That said, JB is a better coach than Willard and would put KR in a better position to succeed at what he does best and make it to the NBA. Same with Newton. JB has put more marginal/lower ranked guys in the NBA than most coaches. Kadary made a mistake in leaving, but he’s talented so he might make it to the NBA despite dum dum Willard.

Both Kadary and Woody seemed like they have the raw talent to succeed, especially Kadary.
But sometimes you need to put in the work and pay attention to good coaches when they are available.
Maybe the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

 

[Jake]

Willard said that Kadary didn't play well and fouled out because the zone isn't real defense and he has to teach him how to play man-to-man.

Certified clown.

So he can’t coach M2M very well. Got it, thanks.

If you compare defensive efficiency stats over the past 10 years between SU and Seton Hall is laughably lopsided in JBs favor. Maybe it’s the coach and not the system.

It’s only one game, but my first impression from Kadary last night was that he certainly knows where the dining hall is.

I’m sorta shocked by what I saw last night.

Willard on the cusp of 0-2 tampering with our recruits.

 

[Jzsshuttles]

Kadary’s desire to defend was questioned in highschool..

 

[Ringostar57]

Woody listed as a guard at Okie State?

 

[Jake]

Kadary’s desire to defend was questioned in highschool..

Hard to hide lack of effort in M2M.