Inside Lacrosse Recruit Rankings 2019-20

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67JJ LevandowskiMSyracuseIMG Academy
93Brandon AvilesFOSyracuseWard Melville Senior High School
100Harrison ThompsonGSyracuseMountain Lakes High School
 
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67JJ LevandowskiMSyracuseIMG Academy
93Brandon AvilesFOSyracuseWard Melville Senior High School
100Harrison ThompsonGSyracuseMountain Lakes High School
I really don't know the methodology behind these lists at all, but looks since last year, Levandowski rose from 79 to 67 and Michael Page dropped from 80 to off the list. Aviles and Thompson weren't on last year's list at all.

Strange similarity from the 2019 to the 2020 list in terms of where players are ranked. Birstwistle really looks like a good player, it does not look like he was ranked last year. Drago drops from 84 to 99 and Erlbeck drops from 81 to off the list. Kol was not on last year's list. Still, two years of having only three Top 100 players is tough, lots of pressure on the coaches to bring in top end talent for 2021. I think Maher and Hay are the two biggest losses from the "Group of five" (including Zawada and Blake) as lefty attackman will be a massive hole in next year's lineup. As stated previously by others, Seebold and Swenson are the only two slated to be on the team next year.

It would be nice for IL to explain their reasoning behind why guys fall or rise on these lists, but instead you're left with no explanation other than a number next to someones name. Even in general terms it would be nice to hear something along the lines of, "Player x dropped because we realized he can't go left", or "Player Z rose in the rankings because he grew 4 inches and uses his size a lot better than a year ago". But again, no accountability and IL looks like they are throwing darts at a dart board.
 
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It would be nice for IL to explain their reasoning behind why guys fall or rise on these lists, but instead your left with no explanation other than a number next to someones name. Even in general terms it would be nice to hear something along the lines of, "Player x dropped because we realized he can't go left", or "Player Z rose in the rankings because he grew 4 inches and uses his size a lot better than a year ago". But again, no accountability and IL looks like they are throwing darts at a dart board.
Although, I am not convinced that I really what to hear the explanation, because they might annoy me also.

The Terps recruits have done a lot of jumping around also. Pallonetti had a huge drop from #9 to #45. It is true that Pallonetti's numbers dropped off a bit this Spring, but still dropping a guy that far is admitting that you were clueless the previous fall - leading to the thought of why should we believe your rankings this time around? Justin Sherrer drops from #41 to #56, yet is again HS AA for Georgia, and has some nice highlights up. Kelan Duff drops totally out of the rankings, despite being on a top Culver team.
Then you get to the rising seniors, Jack Koras makes the cut to 50 for the U-19 team, while Malever doesn't. Koras drops from #14 to #18, while also being named one of the 5 HS AAs from the MIAA. Malever stays at #4. Go figure that out. Goforth drops from #18 to #44, while being named the only junior midfield among the Phlly All-Americans and on the All-Philly team.
 

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29. Camden Hay
30. Russell Maher
38. Carter Parlette
50. Marquez White
85. Luke Staudt

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Surprised Hay is that high to be honest. Good player but he made a nice jump to get up there. Think he may end up here eventually once his brother graduates. Maher and White those ones really hurt.
 

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I really don't know the methodology behind these lists at all, but looks since last year, Levandowski rose from 79 to 67 and Michael Page dropped from 80 to off the list. Aviles and Thompson weren't on last year's list at all.

Strange similarity from the 2019 to the 2020 list in terms of where players are ranked. Birstwistle really looks like a good player, it does not look like he was ranked last year. Drago drops from 84 to 99 and Erlbeck drops from 81 to off the list. Kol was not on last year's list. Still, two years of having only three Top 100 players is tough, lots of pressure on the coaches to bring in top end talent for 2021. I think Maher and Hay are the two biggest losses from the "Group of five" (including Zawada and Blake) as lefty attackman will be a massive hole in next year's lineup. As stated previously by others, Seebold and Swenson are the only two slated to be on the team next year.

It would be nice for IL to explain their reasoning behind why guys fall or rise on these lists, but instead you're left with no explanation other than a number next to someones name. Even in general terms it would be nice to hear something along the lines of, "Player x dropped because we realized he can't go left", or "Player Z rose in the rankings because he grew 4 inches and uses his size a lot better than a year ago". But again, no accountability and IL looks like they are throwing darts at a dart board.
SU has to get a lefty attackmen in the 2021 class. I know they brought in Jack Wood to replace Zawada at attack but pretty sure he is a righty. Birtwistle looks like an absolute steal at this point after losing Hay. He and Ferrir look like a great attack combo not to mention Erlbeck. To bad about the middie who decided to play Football, he had UA potential.
 

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Surprised Hay is that high to be honest. Good player but he made a nice jump to get up there. Think he may end up here eventually once his brother graduates. Maher and White those ones really hurt.
Really a question of if he is big and strong enough to do the back down his man routine in college like Randy Staats and company. If so the rating could be justified. At the very least he has the stick skills, vision, and a very nice shot from outside. Reminds me of Logan Wisnauskas a bit. The jump could be due to him performing well for Victor in the state tourney. Ty Xanders doesn't respect Upstate NYers until they play/do well against Long Island competition (only half joking).
As for him leaving to come here I think there is a special circle of hell reserved for guys who transfer between SU and UAlbany. Would be great but that is a tough conversation to have with Marr and your UAlbany friends. Don't really see it happening.
 

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Really a question of if he is big and strong enough to do the back down his man routine in college like Randy Staats and company. If so the rating could be justified. At the very least he has the stick skills, vision, and a very nice shot from outside. Reminds me of Logan Wisnauskas a bit. The jump could be due to him performing well for Victor in the state tourney. Ty Xanders doesn't respect Upstate NYers until they play/do well against Long Island competition (only half joking).
As for him leaving to come here I think there is a special circle of hell reserved for guys who transfer between SU and UAlbany. Would be great but that is a tough conversation to have with Marr and your UAlbany friends. Don't really see it happening.
Your right, not many Albany to Syracuse or vice versa transfers. That said you get the feeling he's headed to Albany more from a family standpoint then a program standpoint. Assuming SU can put together a nice run these next few seasons and Albany continues to struggle to replace Fields, Ierlan and crew etc don't be surprised. If were to tell you Ierlan was gonna leave you would have thought I was crazy.
 

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Does anyone ever go back and check to see how these rankings pan out?
I looked at it a while back for 2006 and 2007, using making All-American as my metric. I found that the top 20 had a 50-60% chance of making AA, 21-40 had around a 30% chance,
and the lower sets had a low percentage of making the AA list.
I have only done the 2017, 2018 and 2019 All-Americans, looking back at the top 100 for 2015, but the pattern remains about the same::
1. Ryan Conrad, M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Virginia - 2019 AA(1), 2017 AA (3)
2. Ryder Garnsey, A, Brewster Academy (N.H.), Notre Dame - 2018 AA (HM), 2017 (HM)
3. Dan Bucaro, A, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Georgetown - 2019 AA(2), 2018 AA (HM)
4. Drew Supinski, M, Haverford (Pa.), Johns Hopkins
5. Cade van Raaphorst, D, Desert Vista (Ariz.); Duke - 2019 AA(1), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(3)
6. Patrick Spencer, A, Boys’ Latin (Md.), Loyola - 2019 AA(1), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(1)
7. Noah Lejman, D, Haverford School (Pa.),Penn
8. A.J. Barretto, G, St. Paul’s (Md.), Army - 2019 AA(2)
9. James Sullivan, FO, Garden City (N.Y.), Harvard
10. Alex Woodall, FO, St. Mary’s (Md.), High Point - 2019 AA(2)
11. Timmy Monahan, A, Gonzaga (D.C.), Maryland
12. Tommy Wright, LSM/D, Garden City (N.Y.), Penn State - 2019 AA(HM)
13. Tyler Dunn, A/M, Manhasset (N.Y.), Penn - 2019 AA (HM)
14. Brad Smith, M, Mountain Lakes (N.J.), Duke - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(3)
15. Hunter Sells, G, Landon (Md.), Johns Hopkins
16. Chris Donovan, A, Hun School (N.J.), Georgetown
17. Alex Roesner, A, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Penn
18. Tim Kelly, A, Calvert Hall (Md.), North Carolina - 2019 AA (HM)
19. Joey Froccaro, M, Port Washington (N.Y.), Villanova
20. Jack Rowlett, LSM/D, Robinson (Va.), North Carolina - 2019 AA (3), 2018 AA (HM)

21. Jake McCulloch, M, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Cornell
22. Eddie Bouhall, D, Lynbrook (N.Y.), Lehigh
23. Hugh Crance, D, Corona Del Mar (Calif.), Notre Dame - 2018 AA (HM)
24. Willie Klan, G, Penfield (N.Y.), Ohio State
25. Austin Henningsen, FO, Northport (N.Y.), Maryland
26. Sam Romano, M, Episcopal Dallas (Texas), Syracuse
27. Brendan Mackie, M, Bergen Catholic (N.J.), Yale
28. Nate Marano, A, Foothill (Calif.), Denver
29. Zach Ambrosino, LSM/D, Taft (Conn.), Virginia
30. Nick Mellen, D, West Genesee (N.Y.), Syracuse - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA (3)
31. Grant Ament, A, Haverford School (Pa.), Penn State - 2019 AA (1), 2017 AA (HM)
32. Kyle Marr, A, Hill Academy (Ont.), Johns Hopkins - 2018 AA (HM), 2017 AA (HM)
33. Jacob Stover, G, McDonogh (Md.), Loyola - 2019 AA (1)
34. Brandon Barker, M, Pittsford (N.Y.), Ohio State
35. Charles Kelly, FO, Malvern Prep (Pa.), North Carolina
36. Jake Fox, M, Hill Academy (Ont.), Johns Hopkins
37. Dylan Johnson, D, Cherry Creek (Colo.), Denver
38. Henry Grass, A, Bronxville (N.Y.), Johns Hopkins
39. Simon Mathias, M, Ridgefield (Conn.), Penn = 2019 AA (HM)
40. Joe Sessa, A, Minisink Valley (N.Y.), Yale

41. Tyson Bomberry, LSM/D, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Syracuse - 2019 (HM)
42. Jake Hervada, FO, Haverford (Pa.), Delaware
43. Connor Alexander, D, Jupiter (Fla.), Duke
44. Patrick Foley, D, St. John’s Prep (Mass.), Johns Hopkins - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA (3)
45. Timmy Phillips, M, Episcopal (Va.), Notre Dame
46. Phil Poquie, M, Haverford School (Pa.), Virginia
47. Alex McGovern, M, St. Paul’s (Md.), North Carolina
49. Decker Curran, M, Greenwich (Conn.), Michigan
49. John Daniggelis, M, Smithtown East (N.Y.), Yale - 2019 AA (HM)
50. Nick Yevoli, M, Massapequa (N.Y.), Yale
51. Marc-Antoine Pion, D, IMG Academy (Fla.), Harvard
52. Jack Olson, FO, Georgetown Prep (Md.), Johns Hopkins
53. Louis Dubick, A, Winston Churchill (Md.), Maryland
54. Ryan Bray, A, Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.), Cornell
55. Jack Corbett, G, Hotchkiss (Conn.), Harvard
56. Quinton Eissler, A, Coronado (Nev.), High Point
57. Nathan Solomon, A, Centennial (Ga.), Syracuse - 2019 AA (HM)
58. Carter Flaig, A, St. Paul’s (Md.), Princeton
59. Aidan O’Brien, M, Niskayuna (N.Y.), North Carolina
60. Ryan Lamb, M, Paul VI (Va.), Virginia

61. Ryan O’Connor, M, Paul VI (Va.), North Carolina
62. Erik Dluhy, D, Somerville (N.J.), Albany
63. Andrew Helmer, D, Summit (N.J.), Syracuse
64. Alex Concannon, A, Syosset (N.Y.), Johns Hopkins
65. Colin Reder, G, Episcopal Academy (Pa.), North Carolina
66. Reece Belcher, FO, T.C. Williams (Va.), Syracuse
67. Drew Petkevich, M, Bullis (Md.), Penn State
68. Drew Schantz, M, Malvern Prep (Pa.), Notre Dame
69. Andy Matthews, A, Gilman (Md.), North Carolina
70. Colton Rupp, A, Landon (Md.), Cornell
71. Tate Boyce, G, McCallie School (Tenn.), Providence
72. Joseph Licciardi, M, St Anthony’s (N.Y.), Penn
73. Riley O’Sullivan, M, Don Bosco Prep (N.J.), Syracuse
74. Jack Tigh, M, Chaminade (N.Y.), Yale - 2019 AA (HM), 2018 AA (3)
75. Colton Jackson, M, Rock Canyon (Colo.), Denver - 2019 AA (HM), 2018 AA (HM), 2017 AA (HM)
76. Larsen Bidstrup, A, Governor’s (Mass.), Harvard
77. Mikey Herring, A, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Virginia
78. Richie Easterly, A, Westhill (N.Y.), Loyola
79. Theo Dol, D, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Virginia
80. Foster Cuomo, A, IMG Academy (Fla.), Quinnipiac

81. Kevin Hill, M, Webster Thomas (N.Y.), Penn State
82. Thomas O’Connell, M, Chaminade (N.Y.), Maryland
83. Hoyt Crance, G, Corona Del Mar (Calif.), Yale
84. Bradley Voigt, A, Salisbury (Conn.), Syracuse
85. Robert Clark, A, McDonogh (Md.), Georgetown
86. Michael Borda, D, Gonzaga (D.C.), Michigan
87. Thomas Reilly, D, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Cornell
88. Austin French, A, San Ramon Valley (Calif.), Denver
89. John Prendergast, M, Niskayuna (N.Y.), Duke - 2019 AA (HM)
90. Christian Klipstein, G, Rutgers Prep (N.J.), Bucknell
91. Connor McCroskey, A, Bishop’s (Calif.), Harvard
92. John Duffy, M, Lincoln (Ore.), Loyola
93. Robby Black, M, McDonogh (Md.), Penn State
94. Charlie Tarry, D, Bronxville (N.Y.), Princeton
95. Tim Troutner, G, St. Mary’s (Md.), High Point - 2019 AA (2)
96. Jack Fowler, D, Chaminade (N.Y.), Duke
97. Devin Shewell, A, Boys’ Latin (Md.), Syracuse
98. Turner Uppgren, G, Choate (Conn.), Duke
99. P.J. Brown, M, Cazenovia (N.Y.), Loyola
100. Acie Newton, G, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Brown

One thing that is different from 2006 and 2007 is that they have added an ssdm category to the AA team,. Pendergrist and Dannigelis were ssdms
 

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I looked at it a while back for 2006 and 2007, using making All-American as my metric. I found that the top 20 had a 50-60% chance of making AA, 21-40 had around a 30% chance,
and the lower sets had a low percentage of making the AA list.
I have only done the 2017, 2018 and 2019 All-Americans, looking back at the top 100 for 2015, but the pattern remains about the same::
1. Ryan Conrad, M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Virginia - 2019 AA(1), 2017 AA (3)
2. Ryder Garnsey, A, Brewster Academy (N.H.), Notre Dame - 2018 AA (HM), 2017 (HM)
3. Dan Bucaro, A, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Georgetown - 2019 AA(2), 2018 AA (HM)
4. Drew Supinski, M, Haverford (Pa.), Johns Hopkins
5. Cade van Raaphorst, D, Desert Vista (Ariz.); Duke - 2019 AA(1), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(3)
6. Patrick Spencer, A, Boys’ Latin (Md.), Loyola - 2019 AA(1), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(1)
7. Noah Lejman, D, Haverford School (Pa.),Penn
8. A.J. Barretto, G, St. Paul’s (Md.), Army - 2019 AA(2)
9. James Sullivan, FO, Garden City (N.Y.), Harvard
10. Alex Woodall, FO, St. Mary’s (Md.), High Point - 2019 AA(2)
11. Timmy Monahan, A, Gonzaga (D.C.), Maryland
12. Tommy Wright, LSM/D, Garden City (N.Y.), Penn State - 2019 AA(HM)
13. Tyler Dunn, A/M, Manhasset (N.Y.), Penn - 2019 AA (HM)
14. Brad Smith, M, Mountain Lakes (N.J.), Duke - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA(1), 2017 AA(3)
15. Hunter Sells, G, Landon (Md.), Johns Hopkins
16. Chris Donovan, A, Hun School (N.J.), Georgetown
17. Alex Roesner, A, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Penn
18. Tim Kelly, A, Calvert Hall (Md.), North Carolina - 2019 AA (HM)
19. Joey Froccaro, M, Port Washington (N.Y.), Villanova
20. Jack Rowlett, LSM/D, Robinson (Va.), North Carolina - 2019 AA (3), 2018 AA (HM)

21. Jake McCulloch, M, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Cornell
22. Eddie Bouhall, D, Lynbrook (N.Y.), Lehigh
23. Hugh Crance, D, Corona Del Mar (Calif.), Notre Dame - 2018 AA (HM)
24. Willie Klan, G, Penfield (N.Y.), Ohio State
25. Austin Henningsen, FO, Northport (N.Y.), Maryland
26. Sam Romano, M, Episcopal Dallas (Texas), Syracuse
27. Brendan Mackie, M, Bergen Catholic (N.J.), Yale
28. Nate Marano, A, Foothill (Calif.), Denver
29. Zach Ambrosino, LSM/D, Taft (Conn.), Virginia
30. Nick Mellen, D, West Genesee (N.Y.), Syracuse - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA (3)
31. Grant Ament, A, Haverford School (Pa.), Penn State - 2019 AA (1), 2017 AA (HM)
32. Kyle Marr, A, Hill Academy (Ont.), Johns Hopkins - 2018 AA (HM), 2017 AA (HM)
33. Jacob Stover, G, McDonogh (Md.), Loyola - 2019 AA (1)
34. Brandon Barker, M, Pittsford (N.Y.), Ohio State
35. Charles Kelly, FO, Malvern Prep (Pa.), North Carolina
36. Jake Fox, M, Hill Academy (Ont.), Johns Hopkins
37. Dylan Johnson, D, Cherry Creek (Colo.), Denver
38. Henry Grass, A, Bronxville (N.Y.), Johns Hopkins
39. Simon Mathias, M, Ridgefield (Conn.), Penn = 2019 AA (HM)
40. Joe Sessa, A, Minisink Valley (N.Y.), Yale

41. Tyson Bomberry, LSM/D, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Syracuse - 2019 (HM)
42. Jake Hervada, FO, Haverford (Pa.), Delaware
43. Connor Alexander, D, Jupiter (Fla.), Duke
44. Patrick Foley, D, St. John’s Prep (Mass.), Johns Hopkins - 2019 AA (2), 2018 AA (3)
45. Timmy Phillips, M, Episcopal (Va.), Notre Dame
46. Phil Poquie, M, Haverford School (Pa.), Virginia
47. Alex McGovern, M, St. Paul’s (Md.), North Carolina
49. Decker Curran, M, Greenwich (Conn.), Michigan
49. John Daniggelis, M, Smithtown East (N.Y.), Yale - 2019 AA (HM)
50. Nick Yevoli, M, Massapequa (N.Y.), Yale
51. Marc-Antoine Pion, D, IMG Academy (Fla.), Harvard
52. Jack Olson, FO, Georgetown Prep (Md.), Johns Hopkins
53. Louis Dubick, A, Winston Churchill (Md.), Maryland
54. Ryan Bray, A, Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.), Cornell
55. Jack Corbett, G, Hotchkiss (Conn.), Harvard
56. Quinton Eissler, A, Coronado (Nev.), High Point
57. Nathan Solomon, A, Centennial (Ga.), Syracuse - 2019 AA (HM)
58. Carter Flaig, A, St. Paul’s (Md.), Princeton
59. Aidan O’Brien, M, Niskayuna (N.Y.), North Carolina
60. Ryan Lamb, M, Paul VI (Va.), Virginia

61. Ryan O’Connor, M, Paul VI (Va.), North Carolina
62. Erik Dluhy, D, Somerville (N.J.), Albany
63. Andrew Helmer, D, Summit (N.J.), Syracuse
64. Alex Concannon, A, Syosset (N.Y.), Johns Hopkins
65. Colin Reder, G, Episcopal Academy (Pa.), North Carolina
66. Reece Belcher, FO, T.C. Williams (Va.), Syracuse
67. Drew Petkevich, M, Bullis (Md.), Penn State
68. Drew Schantz, M, Malvern Prep (Pa.), Notre Dame
69. Andy Matthews, A, Gilman (Md.), North Carolina
70. Colton Rupp, A, Landon (Md.), Cornell
71. Tate Boyce, G, McCallie School (Tenn.), Providence
72. Joseph Licciardi, M, St Anthony’s (N.Y.), Penn
73. Riley O’Sullivan, M, Don Bosco Prep (N.J.), Syracuse
74. Jack Tigh, M, Chaminade (N.Y.), Yale - 2019 AA (HM), 2018 AA (3)
75. Colton Jackson, M, Rock Canyon (Colo.), Denver - 2019 AA (HM), 2018 AA (HM), 2017 AA (HM)
76. Larsen Bidstrup, A, Governor’s (Mass.), Harvard
77. Mikey Herring, A, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Virginia
78. Richie Easterly, A, Westhill (N.Y.), Loyola
79. Theo Dol, D, Avon Old Farms (Conn.), Virginia
80. Foster Cuomo, A, IMG Academy (Fla.), Quinnipiac

81. Kevin Hill, M, Webster Thomas (N.Y.), Penn State
82. Thomas O’Connell, M, Chaminade (N.Y.), Maryland
83. Hoyt Crance, G, Corona Del Mar (Calif.), Yale
84. Bradley Voigt, A, Salisbury (Conn.), Syracuse
85. Robert Clark, A, McDonogh (Md.), Georgetown
86. Michael Borda, D, Gonzaga (D.C.), Michigan
87. Thomas Reilly, D, Ward Melville (N.Y.), Cornell
88. Austin French, A, San Ramon Valley (Calif.), Denver
89. John Prendergast, M, Niskayuna (N.Y.), Duke - 2019 AA (HM)
90. Christian Klipstein, G, Rutgers Prep (N.J.), Bucknell
91. Connor McCroskey, A, Bishop’s (Calif.), Harvard
92. John Duffy, M, Lincoln (Ore.), Loyola
93. Robby Black, M, McDonogh (Md.), Penn State
94. Charlie Tarry, D, Bronxville (N.Y.), Princeton
95. Tim Troutner, G, St. Mary’s (Md.), High Point - 2019 AA (2)
96. Jack Fowler, D, Chaminade (N.Y.), Duke
97. Devin Shewell, A, Boys’ Latin (Md.), Syracuse
98. Turner Uppgren, G, Choate (Conn.), Duke
99. P.J. Brown, M, Cazenovia (N.Y.), Loyola
100. Acie Newton, G, Loyola Blakefield (Md.), Brown

One thing that is different from 2006 and 2007 is that they have added an ssdm category to the AA team,. Pendergrist and Dannigelis were ssdms
It’s even interesting to go through these lists and see how many names you even recognize as guys that have played in games
 

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I would strongly disagree that the rankings are in many ways meaningless. Go back and look and you’ll see Virginia dominating recruiting the past few years (look where it got them). Now you’ll also see Hopkins doing well (look where they are). Syracuse’s last two championships came on the backs of the greatest ranked recruiting class probably ever. To me Syracuse’s biggest issue is they have not recruited an elite attackman since Kevin Rice. We have survived on transfers for far too long. Luckily we have a new recruiting coordinator. The next two classes will tell if we are headed in the right direction.
 

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