Interesting stat re University of Washington...

[dasher]

Not being sensitive at all. Those that are overly sensitive here are often the JB defenders that immediately move into a defensive crouch at the slightest hint of criticism.

The thing is, you were replying to me. And I have accused of being anti jb just this week.

 

[bpo57]

The thing is, you were replying to me. And I have accused of being anti jb just this week.

I wouldn't classify you as being pro or anti JB and I have to say I agree with your basketball take 90% of the time.

Just found the Wooden crack rather coincidental. No harm, no foul.

 

[br801]

Not being sensitive at all. Those that are overly sensitive here are often the JB defenders that immediately move into a defensive crouch at the slightest hint of criticism.

There are overly sensitive posters on all sides when it comes to JB.

 

[SWC75]

I apologize if this has been commented upon before here but UW currently has eight guys that average 14 minutes or more of PT this year and another two guys that average 7-8 min. Rather sharp departure from JB's philosophy.

JB's historical average is 8 guys averaging 10 minutes per game.

USE OF BENCH: Here are the number of players who averaged 10 minutes played per game, (of the games they were available), and the team’s record in each year:
(the Media Guide has stats only from 1980-81)
80-81 9 (22-12); 81-82 8 (16-13); 82-83 9 (21-10); 83-84 7 (23-9); 84-85 7 (22-9); 85-86 10 (26-6); 86-87 7 (31-7); 87-88 8 (26-9); 88-89 8 (30-8); 89-90 8 (26-7); 90-91 8 (26-6); 91-92 8 (22-10); 92-93 7 (20-9); 93-94 7 (23-7); 94-95 8 (20-10); 95-96 7 (29-9); 96-97 9 (19-13); 97-98 6 (26-9); 98-99 10 (21-12); 99-00 8 (26-6); 00-01 7 (25-9); 01-02 8 (23-13); 02-03 8 (30-5); 03-04 8 (23-8); 04-05 9 (27-7); 05-06 7 (23-12) 06-07 8 (24-11); 07-08 8 -before Devo got injured- But I think Ongenaet and Jardine might have averaged 10 minutes anyway (21-14), 08-09 8 (28-10), 09-10 7 (30-5). 10-11 8 (27-8), 11-12 9 (34-3); 12-13 9 (30-10); 13-14 8 (28-6); 14-15 8 (18-13); 15-16 7 (23-14) 16-17 9 (19-15) (Includes Chukwu and Coleman who didn't play much of the season due to injury but averaged 10 minutes in the games they played)

Let’s look at this in a different form. These are the number of players who averaged 10 or more minutes and the team records, without regard to which year was involved:

10 players- 26-6, 21-12 Average: 24-9 Winning percentage: .723

9 players- 22-12, 21-10, 19-13, 27-7, 34-3, 19-15 Average: 24-10. Winning percentage: .703

8 players- 16-13, 26-9, 30-8, 26-7, 26-6, 22-10, 20-10, 26-6, 23-13, 30-5, 23-8, 24-11, 21-14, 28-10, 27-8, 28-6, 18-13 Average: 24-9. Winning percentage: .725

7 players- 23-9, 22-9, 31-7, 20-9, 23-7, 29-9, 25-9, 23-12, 30-5, 23-14 Average: 25-9. Winning Percentage: .735

6 players- 26-9 Winning percentage: .743

Jim Boeheim has no “rule” about playing only 7 players. He averages 8. Most coaches do. Like most coaches, Jim plays everyone early and then goes with the guys who have shown him they can be relied upon to perform well in close games, whatever number of players that is. Generally, the fewer guys who get serious minutes, the better the record has been. When he uses a lot of players, he’s not trying to wear teams down or develop players for the future. He’s searching for answers.

 

[NKR1978]

JB's historical average is 8 guys averaging 10 minutes per game.

USE OF BENCH: Here are the number of players who averaged 10 minutes played per game, (of the games they were available), and the team’s record in each year:
(the Media Guide has stats only from 1980-81)
80-81 9 (22-12); 81-82 8 (16-13); 82-83 9 (21-10); 83-84 7 (23-9); 84-85 7 (22-9); 85-86 10 (26-6); 86-87 7 (31-7); 87-88 8 (26-9); 88-89 8 (30-8); 89-90 8 (26-7); 90-91 8 (26-6); 91-92 8 (22-10); 92-93 7 (20-9); 93-94 7 (23-7); 94-95 8 (20-10); 95-96 7 (29-9); 96-97 9 (19-13); 97-98 6 (26-9); 98-99 10 (21-12); 99-00 8 (26-6); 00-01 7 (25-9); 01-02 8 (23-13); 02-03 8 (30-5); 03-04 8 (23-8); 04-05 9 (27-7); 05-06 7 (23-12) 06-07 8 (24-11); 07-08 8 -before Devo got injured- But I think Ongenaet and Jardine might have averaged 10 minutes anyway (21-14), 08-09 8 (28-10), 09-10 7 (30-5). 10-11 8 (27-8), 11-12 9 (34-3); 12-13 9 (30-10); 13-14 8 (28-6); 14-15 8 (18-13); 15-16 7 (23-14) 16-17 9 (19-15) (Includes Chukwu and Coleman who didn't play much of the season due to injury but averaged 10 minutes in the games they played)

Let’s look at this in a different form. These are the number of players who averaged 10 or more minutes and the team records, without regard to which year was involved:

10 players- 26-6, 21-12 Average: 24-9 Winning percentage: .723

9 players- 22-12, 21-10, 19-13, 27-7, 34-3, 19-15 Average: 24-10. Winning percentage: .703

8 players- 16-13, 26-9, 30-8, 26-7, 26-6, 22-10, 20-10, 26-6, 23-13, 30-5, 23-8, 24-11, 21-14, 28-10, 27-8, 28-6, 18-13 Average: 24-9. Winning percentage: .725

7 players- 23-9, 22-9, 31-7, 20-9, 23-7, 29-9, 25-9, 23-12, 30-5, 23-14 Average: 25-9. Winning Percentage: .735

6 players- 26-9 Winning percentage: .743

Jim Boeheim has no “rule” about playing only 7 players. He averages 8. Most coaches do. Like most coaches, Jim plays everyone early and then goes with the guys who have shown him they can be relied upon to perform well in close games, whatever number of players that is. Generally, the fewer guys who get serious minutes, the better the record has been. When he uses a lot of players, he’s not trying to wear teams down or develop players for the future. He’s searching for answers.

“JB NEVER uses 8+ players.”

 

[CusefanATL]

Yeah we went over this above. Some years he went deep, some years he didn't. Not a completely apt comparison to Hopkins' situation given that JB had Mickey D All-Americans coming off the bench in some of those years.

"Hopkins has gone 8-10 deep with his roster. I've been following JB for his entire career and he's never done that."

 

[NKR1978]

"Hopkins has gone 8-10 deep with his roster. I've been following JB for his entire career and he's never done that."

Amazing how the goal posts move, but he doesn't have an agenda. He's just asking questions and making a point about Hop.

 

[bpo57]

Amazing how the goal posts move, but he doesn't have an agenda. He's just asking questions and making a point about Hop.

You got me, NKR. I have an agenda, that's right. I'm a one man wrecking crew intent on seeing JB run out of town. Gimme a break.

 

[bpo57]

"Hopkins has gone 8-10 deep with his roster. I've been following JB for his entire career and he's never done that."

Guess you didn't read the full thread. I acknowledged that in post # 36.

 

[CusefanATL]

Guess you didn't read the full thread. I acknowledged that in post # 36.

I did not. My apologies.

 

[CusefanATL]

Amazing how the goal posts move, but he doesn't have an agenda. He's just asking questions and making a point about Hop.

Im not sure how the goalpost moved. I didnt put those exact words into his keyboard. That was an exact quote from HIS point about Hop. If you think I was referencing him having an agenda - i literally copied and pasted his words. the only thing i added was the quotation marks.

edit* nevermind... i misread the sarcasm. makes much more sense now.

 

[bpo57]

I did not. My apologies.

No worries.

 

[TinyManInside]

Carlos Johnson and Michael Carter III have played in only slightly more than half of Washington's games this season at 8mpg. They're not rotational players.

Michael Carter III broke his hand and missed all of the games he didn't play in because he was injured. He's a rotational player.

Carlos Johnson is not a rotational player and will likely transfer after the season is over. He's a 6-2 PF in a SG body and doesn't fit Hop's system at all (that said, he did come off the bench and spark comebacks in 2 different games this year, so I'm surprised that Hop doesn't use him a bit more).

 

[two3zone]

Michael Carter III broke his hand and missed all of the games he didn't play in because he was injured. He's a rotational player.

Carlos Johnson is not a rotational player and will likely transfer after the season is over. He's a 6-2 PF in a SG body and doesn't fit Hop's system at all (that said, he did come off the bench and spark comebacks in 2 different games this year, so I'm surprised that Hop doesn't use him a bit more).

Johnson was Hopeined