Isaiah Johnson

[CuseGrad94]

Well hopefully our young guys are ready to go next year. Lockett got hurt, Darton is undersized and doing great but is more likely to get hurt due to his size. I would rather have a experienced guy ready to compete and give our younger guys more time to develop. Definitely don't want to be in a position where we need a converted RB coming off a serious injury to anchor the DL.

Darton may get hurt because of the nature of the game but he isn’t small, he is just short. He is a big strong dude albeit very short for that position.

 

[Entropic]

Darton may get hurt because of the nature of the game but he isn’t small, he is just short. He is a big strong dude albeit very short for that position.

Average d tackle weighs 310. He is undersized in every way. He plays the position exceedingly well especially considering his size. That's his heart making up his body. He got hurt twice against Clemson. No idea why these facts are somehow controversial.

 

[CuseGrad94]

Average d tackle weighs 310. He is undersized in every way. He plays the position exceedingly well especially considering his size. That's his heart making up his body. He got hurt twice against Clemson. No idea why these facts are somehow controversial.

Yikes fella not trying to be controversial, just saying at 5’10 270 your pretty proportional to someone that is 6’2 310. There were ex players on Twitter saying how tough he is to block because he short with a quick punch and so strong. That was all. Have a good one

 

[Entropic]

Yikes fella not trying to be controversial, just saying at 5’10 270 your pretty proportional to someone that is 6’2 310. There were ex players on Twitter saying how tough he is to block because he short with a quick punch and so strong. That was all. Have a good one

I think you are applying a tone where there is none. Just speaking matter of factly. Particularly in a 3-4 in this case 3-3 the NT is enormous. I said before the Clemson game that Darton has been impressive and reminds me of Nakita Whitlock. He was super impressive. None of anything I said is saying he is bad at playing the position. I simply stated a fact that being smaller increases your chances of injury.

 

[UpstateSM]

If Thompson and Wax are still in our linebacker room we’re going to be a better team next season. Future is bright as long as we pay our coaches.

 

[Entropic]

If Thompson and Wax are still in our linebacker room we’re going to be a better team next season. Future is bright as long as we pay our coaches.

LBers look real good. Sparrow and McDonald look like solid contributors. Roon looks like a hitter. Feel good about that group.

 

[money3189]

Well hopefully our young guys are ready to go next year. Lockett got hurt, Darton is undersized and doing great but is more likely to get hurt due to his size. I would rather have a experienced guy ready to compete and give our younger guys more time to develop. Definitely don't want to be in a position where we need a converted RB coming off a serious injury to anchor the DL.

Anchor the D line? They are not relying on Hough or Perry next year. We wont be young. Lockett 3 years, Darton 3 years and Fuentes 2 years of valuable experience in this scheme. Lack of size is not the issue. Its one of the reasons why the defense has been so good.

 

[money3189]

Yikes fella not trying to be controversial, just saying at 5’10 270 your pretty proportional to someone that is 6’2 310. There were ex players on Twitter saying how tough he is to block because he short with a quick punch and so strong. That was all. Have a good one

I dont get the idea that weight is gonna keep players from getting injured. Lack of strength and poor technique are bigger factors on the line of scrimmage.

 

[Entropic]

I dont get the idea that weight is gonna keep players from getting injured. Lack of strength and poor technique are bigger factors on the line of scrimmage.

Chet Holmgren or Shaquille O'Neil? Which one is more likely to get injured playing? Travis Kelce or Cooper Kupp who is more likely to get hurt on a hit? Weight is also indicative of strength as mass isn't just fat. Regardless muscle and fat provide protection. So Weight does matter. Why else would everyone look a players frame to see how much weight they can put on? Either way I'm done commenting on this subject. Waste of time talking about a hypothetical situation in the future. Going to go watch the concussion bowl of Tua vs Pickett

 

[money3189]

Chet Holmgren or Shaquille O'Neil? Which one is more likely to get injured playing? Travis Kelce or Cooper Kupp who is more likely to get hurt on a hit? Weight is also indicative of strength as mass isn't just fat. Regardless muscle and fat provide protection. So Weight does matter. Why else would everyone look a players frame to see how much weight they can put on?

I said weight doesnt keep players from getting hurt. Didnt say muscle mass is not needed. The staff is not looking for a larger DT transfer. They made Darton lose 30 pounds for a reason. They have 3 or 4 guys for 1 position. It will be the most experienced of all positions next year.

 

[orangencpolice]

Average d tackle weighs 310. He is undersized in every way. He plays the position exceedingly well especially considering his size. That's his heart making up his body. He got hurt twice against Clemson. No idea why these facts are somehow controversial.
Darton is originally a walk on. Earned a scholarship and has started and played every game so far this year. He has gotten hurt on occasion and had to come out of the game momentarily. The only thing you are correct about in your post is that he has heart. What exactly is your point about Darton?

 

[Entropic]

Average d tackle weighs 310. He is undersized in every way. He plays the position exceedingly well especially considering his size. That's his heart making up his body. He got hurt twice against Clemson. No idea why these facts are somehow controversial.
Darton is originally a walk on. Earned a scholarship and has started and played every game so far this year. He has gotten hurt on occasion and had to come out of the game momentarily. The only thing you are correct about in your post is that he has heart. What exactly is your point about Darton?

If you follow the full thread rather than one comment you would know that answer. I simply said we could use a DT transfer for depth which somehow got people riled up. The only thing negative I said about Darton is that he has an increased risk of injury due to him being undersized. Everything else I said about him was very positive. I'm still trying to figure out how a comment about DT depth got people in their feels.

 

[SuFTW]

Chet Holmgren or Shaquille O'Neil? Which one is more likely to get injured playing? Travis Kelce or Cooper Kupp who is more likely to get hurt on a hit? Weight is also indicative of strength as mass isn't just fat. Regardless muscle and fat provide protection. So Weight does matter. Why else would everyone look a players frame to see how much weight they can put on? Either way I'm done commenting on this subject. Waste of time talking about a hypothetical situation in the future. Going to go watch the concussion bowl of Tua vs Pickett

Can you produce data to back up this claim?

 

[Entropic]

Can you produce data to back up this claim?

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Association between Body Composition and Sport Injury in Canadian Adolescents

Purpose: To examine the association between overweight or obesity and sport injury in a population-based sample of Canadian adolescents. Methods: Cross-sectional analyses were performed using the Canadian Community Health Survey (2009–2010), a ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correlation between preseason body composition and sports injury in an English Premier League professional football team | BMJ Open Sport & Exercise Medicine

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But I also saw a study on rugby that said the opposite. So like everything in science there are studies that agree with every possible side. So without spending an inordinate amount of time on something truly meaningless. No?

 

[CbusCuse]

If you follow the full thread rather than one comment you would know that answer. I simply said we could use a DT transfer for depth which somehow got people riled up. The only thing negative I said about Darton is that he has an increased risk of injury due to him being undersized. Everything else I said about him was very positive. I'm still trying to figure out how a comment about DT depth got people in their feels.

Hey we would all be in agreement that we would have liked a DT if you were talking about an add before this season. But the staff couldn’t get one they wanted. But for 2023, same as Money, I don’t think we need a portal add. We now have proof how well Darton can play in his transformed body. Fuentes is getting valuable experience and looks solid. We will also have a redshirt freshman in Bassette to add to the mix who I think will be solid as well. We will have our other starting caliber DT back in Locket. Plus we will have true freshman Perry who I think will be ready to contribute immediately. We are talking about one position. No roster spot will be available for another DT.

Additionally we do not run a standard 3 man front. The staff doesn’t want a 300 lb man there unless he’s an absolute explosive freak. For our scheme he has to be super explosive and not a strong mountainess imoveabme object that takes up a gap.

 

[Entropic]

Hey we would all be in agreement that we would have liked a DT if you were talking about an add before this season. But the staff couldn’t get one they wanted. But for 2023, same as Money, I don’t think we need a portal add. We now have proof how well Darton can play in his transformed body. Fuentes is getting valuable experience and looks solid. We will also have a redshirt freshman in Bassette to add to the mix who I think will be solid as well. We will have our other starting caliber DT back in Locket. Plus we will have true freshman Perry who I think will be ready to contribute immediately. We are talking about one position. No roster spot will be available for another DT.

Additionally we do not run a standard 3 man front. The staff doesn’t want a 300 lb man there unless he’s an absolute explosive freak. For our scheme he has to be super explosive and not a strong mountainess imoveabme object that takes up a gap.

Thank you for the thorough response. That makes sense.

 

[orangecuse]

If you follow the full thread rather than one comment you would know that answer. I simply said we could use a DT transfer for depth which somehow got people riled up. The only thing negative I said about Darton is that he has an increased risk of injury due to him being undersized. Everything else I said about him was very positive. I'm still trying to figure out how a comment about DT depth got people in their feels.

For what it’s worth, don’t confuse realistic thinking with negative thinking. Realistic thinking is based in the possibility that something could happen – positive, negative, or neutral.

Therefore, since being undersized is a likelihood/possible enhanced risk of injury, your comment isn’t negative, but realistic. Now, if you were to insist due to his undersized stature, etc. that he will undoubtedly/certainly be injured because of it, then it would be as this view focuses solely on that one negative possibility/outcome.

A lot of the ‘usual suspects’ here (not implying you at all) seemingly have much difficulty in deciphering the difference, and prefer labeling others instead.

 

[SuFTW]

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Association between Body Composition and Sport Injury in Canadian Adolescents

Purpose: To examine the association between overweight or obesity and sport injury in a population-based sample of Canadian adolescents. Methods: Cross-sectional analyses were performed using the Canadian Community Health Survey (2009–2010), a ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correlation between preseason body composition and sports injury in an English Premier League professional football team | BMJ Open Sport & Exercise Medicine

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But I also saw a study on rugby that said the opposite. So like everything in science there are studies that agree with every possible side. So without spending an inordinate amount of time on something truly meaningless. No?

Thanks, I can see it from two sides. Heavier weight puts more stress on joints, ligaments etc, but a heavier mass impacting on a smaller one you would expect the smaller one to give more.

 

[orangencpolice]

If you follow the full thread rather than one comment you would know that answer. I simply said we could use a DT transfer for depth which somehow got people riled up. The only thing negative I said about Darton is that he has an increased risk of injury due to him being undersized. Everything else I said about him was very positive. I'm still trying to figure out how a comment about DT depth got people in their feels.

I also voiced my opinion before the season started about the lack of defensive line depth. The facts is we acquired nobody. I agree with other posts on here that our depth next year will be better than average with the guys we currently have and few that are coming in. I didn’t mean to be an ass, I am still frustrated from Saturday.

 

[CbusCuse]

Looked good …. Next great corner ??

Yea , He is listed as Senior, Don’t know if he has redshirt year or Covid year left.

One more year I think. I was referring to your original thread title of Isiah Thomas. He's definitely too old.

Thought Johnson played well yesterday… be great to have him back for one more year.

Isiah Johnson has looked great this year. Wish we had him another year but this is the only year we have him. He transferred in with only one year of eligibility.

 

[money3189]

Isiah Johnson has looked great this year. Wish we had him another year but this is the only year we have him. He transferred in with only one year of eligibility.

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He missed the 2019 and 2020 seasons. I imagine he will be elgibile for a medical redshirt.

 

[CbusCuse]

He missed the 2019 and 2020 seasons. I imagine he will be elgibile for a medical redshirt.

Ah I missed that in 2019. Looking at his Dartmouth stats it looks like he just played 2 games before his injury. Since he hadn't redshirted yet you would think yes he would likely be eligible for a medical redshirt then. Nice.

 

[CbusCuse]

I guess the reason I didn't notice the 2019 year is typically Syracuse would list the player as a redshirt Junior if he had a year that would be considered a redshirt year, for example only two games played and then an injury in 2019. But maybe this is different in that Dartmouth was Ivy League and they don't allow redshirts. That should not matter once he moved on to FBS correct? I'd think the ACC and NCAA would consider him to have an additional year even though his injury was while at an Ivy.

 

[upperdeck]

I guess the reason I didn't notice the 2019 year is typically Syracuse would list the player as a redshirt Junior if he had a year that would be considered a redshirt year, for example only two games played and then an injury in 2019. But maybe this is different in that Dartmouth was Ivy League and they don't allow redshirts. That should not matter once he moved on to FBS correct? I'd think the ACC and NCAA would consider him to have an additional year even though his injury was while at an Ivy.

the Ivies do some funky stuff and its also possible he has yet to apply for the RS since it wasnt allowed in the Ivies anyway.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

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Association between Body Composition and Sport Injury in Canadian Adolescents

Purpose: To examine the association between overweight or obesity and sport injury in a population-based sample of Canadian adolescents. Methods: Cross-sectional analyses were performed using the Canadian Community Health Survey (2009–2010), a ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correlation between preseason body composition and sports injury in an English Premier League professional football team | BMJ Open Sport & Exercise Medicine

bmjopensem.bmj.com

But I also saw a study on rugby that said the opposite. So like everything in science there are studies that agree with every possible side. So without spending an inordinate amount of time on something truly meaningless. No?

See I see this kind of thing and it takes everything out of me to withhold making some comment like "Your mom's body composition correlates pretty highly with injury, ifyouknowwhatimean."

But I'm not going to do that.