It’s been many many years

[bpo57]

hmm.. so you really dont know how this all works..

I was on some committees that worked with the states broadband project over the last 5 yrs.

even the numbers posted on that are not correct.. or mostly misleading

Say you live in monroe county and someone in the county gets giga Fiber.. that by rule means everyone in the county has access.. you know thats not true correct?

even then what does Fiber have to do with a cable discussion? they are not related in any way?

60% of the state has access to Fiber. Are you taking people or area?

There are areas around here that cant even get high speed DSL but count as fiber on that web site..

I actually do know his this works. I've been involved in financing the likes of Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Charter Communications and Cox Communications. I can tell you your estimates of the percentage of people that have cable TV is off the charts wrong. Like not even close to reality.

 

[Sherman20]

Since the overall quality of men’s D1 basketball has been this bad. In fact I think this is the worst ever.

Um, I think Covid have *a little* something to do with this. No off season player skill development or practice time, limited in season development and limited practice time during the season. Guys probably can’t even scrimmage much during the season, which is something they could do on their own in normal times.

 

[Sherman20]

I blame the officiating. Way too much contact and physicality allowed. No actual movement despite the attempts to fix. If they started enforcing the rules, the game would improve drastically.

The hand checking and body checking on the perimeter drives me crazy. It’s absurd. ACC teams like Clemson are like Jamie Dixon era Pitt now. And because of the way refs call the team fouls mostly even (instead of punishing the teams that actually foul), these physical defensive teams get away with so much. The 80 and 90s Big East was insane too, but more so in the paint.

 

[Sherman20]

cable didnt close to our town until mid late 80s we didnt even have cable in college and then most people didnt get it until the 90s. even then it never came to the country folk around here. until fiber came this yr to us i knew more people around me with no TV at all than had Dish set ups because that was the only option. you cant even watch OTA for most of us around here and the new HD is even worse since it travels so poorly

There is still no cable where I live 2 miles from the center of our town.. we just got fiber so it was DSL until 1 yr ago. no streaming was an option.. Still no FIOS with verizon fiber. no OTA. at least with FIBER people have some options but you dont get all the local channels with that either. you cant get DISH where I live and Directv wouldnt install either but I installed my own dish and made them come out and try and we got it working.

Oy. Where in the world do you live?

 

[upperdeck]

I actually do know his this works. I've been involved in financing the likes of Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Charter Communications and Cox Communications. I can tell you your estimates of the percentage of people that have cable TV is off the charts wrong. Like not even close to reality.

again. I didnt say people you did.. if you just add the 5-10 major cities up you are gonna cover 75% of the people.. NYC alone is 40% of the state

And I was talking who could get cable and who has fiber based on where they live. Verizon and TW and others played games which killed fiber access to huge areas of the states for years. Things like because Auburn had fiber the rest of Cayuga county didnt qualify for the stimulus money to build out fiber because TW owned the rights.

That has all changed in the last 5 yrs which is great and now some places have 2-3 choices almost over night.

 

[upperdeck]

There is still no cable where I live 2 miles from the center of our town.. we just got fiber so it was DSL until 1 yr ago. no streaming was an option.. Still no FIOS with verizon fiber. no OTA. at least with FIBER people have some options but you dont get all the local channels with that either. you cant get DISH where I live and Directv wouldnt install either but I installed my own dish and made them come out and try and we got it working.

Oy. Where in the world do you live?

go down by Ithaca.. No cable a few miles outside of town and still no real internet in many locations not that far away.. its been like pulling teeth if you live in the country.

This work from home has not been great for many of my co-workers around here trying to use cell phone devices to connect to work.

 

[bpo57]

again. I didnt say people you did.. if you just add the 5-10 major cities up you are gonna cover 75% of the people.. NYC alone is 40% of the state

And I was talking who could get cable and who has fiber based on where they live. Verizon and TW and others played games which killed fiber access to huge areas of the states for years. Things like because Auburn had fiber the rest of Cayuga county didnt qualify for the stimulus money to build out fiber because TW owned the rights.

That has all changed in the last 5 yrs which is great and now some places have 2-3 choices almost over night.

Fair enough but Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Westchester County, Long Island (where 2.5 million people live) all have cable television. That exceeds the population of rural portions of NYS by 50x.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I think most people forget that if you go back to the 80s there was almost no basketball on tv for any one to actually watch so you cant go back very far and actually know how ball was.. you were lucky to see anything more than they top few teams play on a weekend.. You ddidnt even get to see most of the tourney games.. Then ESPN came and you go to see a handful more games.. it wasn until the 90s that you started to see most games and until the 2000s you saw more and now only in he last 5-10 yrs that you saw a vast amount of games.

there is more talent that ever in the game.. but the IQ level of players has gone away since its all more about ME than TEAM in many of them now.. the things that used to get you sat down people scoff at..

When I started paying attention to college basketball, there was Ralph Sampson at VA, Jordan, Sam Perkins, James Worthy, Kenny Smith at Carolina; the Phi Slamma Jamma years at Houston, and those dominating Georgetown Ewing years. With or without cable, I didn’t see a lot of games, but there was amazing quality in the ones I did see.

More talent than ever now? These are weak years. Who, in the current draft class is a future NBA Hall of Famer or will drive a franchise to championships? Duke, Carolina, and Kentucky suck. Can’t even name the players on Gonzaga or whoever else is In the top 10. I don’t think it’s about IQ or selfishness, though.

 

[SWC75]

I don't know, it was pretty bad in the '20s and '30s.

These are the 20's.

When I started following college basketball in the 60's, there were only a few hotbeds of enthusiasm around the country: the inner cities, Indiana, Kentucky. That was about it. The NCAA basketball championship would be presented on "Wide World of Sports". When UCLA played Houston in a regular season game in the Astrodome in 1968 and it was presented on national TV in Prime Time, that was a very big deal.

1968 Game of the Century - YouTube

Far fewer people were playing the game and if you had a guy who could really play, he was your star and you fed him. If the other team didn't have a star, you won. if they did, it was about if your star could outscore their star. if a team had multiple players who would be stars on other teams, they were an historically great team. The top teams all had stars and the battle for the national scoring race got as much publicity as the battle for the national championship. An All-American scored 30 points a game and probably got 12-15 rebounds a game.

The top teams all have 2-3 guys like that and All-Americans average about half that. The nation's leading scorer is often someone on a team on the periphery of Division 1. You've probably never heard of him and probably never will. (Actually this year Luke Garza of Iowa is leading the list but the next two guys are from Oral Roberts and Detroit. The top ten also has players from Lafayette, IUPU, Hampton, App State and Akron.) there are many more people playing the game, many more good players and many more good teams.

What is lacking are four year players and four year star players. That makes attaining and sustaining excellence harder. But so does the number of good team you will play.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

There is still no cable where I live 2 miles from the center of our town.. we just got fiber so it was DSL until 1 yr ago. no streaming was an option.. Still no FIOS with verizon fiber. no OTA. at least with FIBER people have some options but you dont get all the local channels with that either. you cant get DISH where I live and Directv wouldnt install either but I installed my own dish and made them come out and try and we got it working.

Oy. Where in the world do you live?

SEa of tranquility

 

[richard levy]

I think most people forget that if you go back to the 80s there was almost no basketball on tv for any one to actually watch so you cant go back very far and actually know how ball was.. you were lucky to see anything more than they top few teams play on a weekend.. You ddidnt even get to see most of the tourney games.. Then ESPN came and you go to see a handful more games.. it wasn until the 90s that you started to see most games and until the 2000s you saw more and now only in he last 5-10 yrs that you saw a vast amount of games.

there is more talent that ever in the game.. but the IQ level of players has gone away since its all more about ME than TEAM in many of them now.. the things that used to get you sat down people scoff at..

Yes, there are more games on television now since 24/7 cable TV. But in late 60’s and 70’s, every Saturday I watched the ACC game of the week, and when Lefty Driesell came to Maryland, most of their games were on TV. And my southern relatives were watching SEC games weekly. And in the 80’s, while living in Chicago, I was watching a full slate of DePaul games in their heyday, as well as Big Ten.