It hurts me

[OburgOrange]

Watching #25 Minnesota playing Nebraska. Oh Lord

 

[anomander]

They have an identity. Most successful programs do. They are a hard-nosed, run it down your throat program, and they want everyone to know it.

 

[CanadianSU]

yes but is Kill on the sidelines?

 

[OburgOrange]

yes but is Kill on the sidelines?

Yes

 

[Upstate]

They have an identity. Most successful programs do. They are a hard-nosed, run it down your throat program, and they want everyone to know it.

That was out-hard-nosed, out-throat-run-down and out-identitied by SU last year. Amazing what injuries can do to derail a team.

 

[raf4488]

Minnesota isn't a better program

Though it is funny in a sad sort of way to see KSU, WVU, and Minnesota all find success after losing to us in bowls

 

[Millhouse]

They have an identity. Most successful programs do. They are a hard-nosed, run it down your throat program, and they want everyone to know it.

And everyone ignores them

 

[Millhouse]

Minnesota has similar weather and plays outside. If we played outside i would be more agnostic about scheme

 

[upperdeck]

minn has 1 win over a team over .500 we have 2.. fellow b10 team rutgers has zero..

 

[anomander]

That was out-hard-nosed, out-throat-run-down and out-identitied by SU last year. Amazing what injuries can do to derail a team.

And that's history. Nobody feels sorry for us because we have a few more injuries then everyone else. Even an injury free season we weren't reaching the top 25.

 

[anomander]

And everyone ignores them

So what? Who isn't ignored? The SEC West, FSU, tOSU, and a couple others here and there.

 

[upperdeck]

And that's history. Nobody feels sorry for us because we have a few more injuries then everyone else. Even an injury free season we weren't reaching the top 25.

if we had beaten mary/duke/ncst as we could/should have 6-4 would have gotten pretty close to ranked right now. beating Pitt today might have done it with chances that 7-3 teams probably lose today.

 

[orangeinohio]

You want to know pain? Watch Virginia Tech at Wake Forest right now.

 

[anomander]

if we had beaten mary/duke/ncst as we could/should have 6-4 would have gotten pretty close to ranked right now. beating Pitt today might have done it with chances that 7-3 teams probably lose today.

Seems like an awful lot of "IF's" , no?

and Maryland was more banged up then us when we played them...at home.

 

[upperdeck]

Seems like an awful lot of "IF's" , no?

and Maryland was more banged up then us when we played them...at home.

and we dominated maryland all over the field and found a way to lose.

 

[orangeinjersey]

Rutgers just kicked a field goal down 35 :shrugs shoulders:

 

[OttoinGrotto]

If we played outside i would be more agnostic about scheme

Bingo, but you can't spell "PiSs away oUr unique advantage" without SU.

 

[OburgOrange]

You want to know pain? Watch Virginia Tech at Wake Forest right now.

0-0 in the fourth quarter. Ugh

 

[MSOrange]

0-0 in the fourth quarter. Ugh

This is pathetic. Can't believe how VA Tech has fallen. Wake isn't exactly impossible to score against.

 

[orangeinohio]

This is pathetic. Can't believe how VA Tech has fallen. Wake isn't exactly impossible to score against.

I can't believe this is probably going to be a 3-0 final score.

 

[jec1521]

and we dominated maryland all over the field and found a way to lose.

how many ifs ands or buts is it going to take for you to simply admit that were just weren't very good this season?

 

[leftytg]

Seems like an awful lot of "IF's" , no?

and Maryland was more banged up then us when we played them...at home.

not to mention Villanova outplayed us and had us dead to rights until a fluke missed chip shot FG. What would that have done to our hypothetical ranking?

Not to mention that losing winnable games is a predictable consequence of bad coaching...