It's curious that

[Flacusian]

the poster who was ranting that the accusers were drunks and meth addicts and a host of other slurs hasn't shown his face on here for a bit. There are lessons to be learned here for many here, including myself.

 

[BlackKnight76]

There were a number of posters like that...I got caught up in it a bit as well. They were easy targets.

 

[jcuse44]

the poster who was ranting that the accusers were drunks and meth addicts and a host of other slurs hasn't shown his face on here for a bit. There are lessons to be learned here for many here, including myself.

I was one of those posters...and I still believe Davis and Lang to be drunks. I also still believe you are innocent until proven guilty...which not a single person has been guilty of anything other than fine's wife sleeping with Bobby davis. I agree fine should be fired but we still have proven nothing with the three idiot accusers...one drunk..one child molester..and one meth head,

 

[Noexcuse]

the poster who was ranting that the accusers were drunks and meth addicts and a host of other slurs hasn't shown his face on here for a bit. There are lessons to be learned here for many here, including myself.

Got called back to Abu Dhabi for consultation.

 

[tptcuse]

I will admit that I thought that. They still strike me that way, but that doesn't make the Fine household any less of a loony bin.

 

[cusetown1]

Or whoever made that facebook page.

 

[longislandcuse]

Everyone involved is a complete disaster imo. Hard for me to take anyone seriously. Lang, Davis, Tomaselli, Bernie, and Laurie scare me for the future of humanity.

 

[rrlbees]

the three idiot accusers...one drunk..one child molester..and one meth head,

if they were abused, do you think they could be what you say they are because of it?

 

[NKR1978]

the poster who was ranting that the accusers were drunks and meth addicts and a host of other slurs hasn't shown his face on here for a bit. There are lessons to be learned here for many here, including myself.

Schwarz's reporting didn't do these guys any favors. By reporting the BS stuff like the blinds being closed it appeared as though he was grasping, thereby allowing people to question the accusations.

 

[Syracuse1957]

I was one of those posters...and I still believe Davis and Lang to be drunks. I also still believe you are innocent until proven guilty...which not a single person has been guilty of anything other than fine's wife sleeping with Bobby davis. I agree fine should be fired but we still have proven nothing with the three idiot accusers...one drunk..one child molester..and one meth head,

My goodness you are certainly a judgmental person... You're really sure of your own rectitude and the obvious wrongness of others, aren't you? You're talking very abusively about 3 people who it is extremely likely were abused sexually as minors... Don't you think that an experience like that might end up affecting someone?

 

[Flacusian]

It doesn't matter a rats a$Z if they are drunks, meth heads or child molesters. What the Fines did is indefensible and it is pretty much clear at this point that they perpetrated some vile things upon at least one of these 3 accusers. As for one of them being accused of child molestation, it is common knowlege that most molesters are also victims, themselves of molestation.
It is also widely held that the trauma experienced by children who do not possesss the emotional faculties to process what is happening to them will often times develop a wall of denial and set up a paradigm of deceit and secrecy out of shame and guilt resultant from what has been perpatrated upon them. Child molestation is perhaps the most insidious of all crimes against humanity in that it forever changes the life of the victim.
So pervasive is the damage that many victims become incapable of developing healthy relationships with others and with themselves. It affects every aspect of their being and identity and will often manifest itself in dis-ease of the individual in the form of destructive behavior, alcoholism, drug abuse and in some cases the self loathing can be so powerful and troublesome that those victims resort to suicide as the only means of escape.
All this as a result of being the victim of sexual molestation. So perhaps it would be wise to think over what it would be like to be the victim of such a crime prior to rushing to judgement and condemnation of an individual who overcomes incredible stimga to come forward with the truth. They expose themselves to undue criticism and are called liars, addicts, drunks, ... and well you know the rest. All who do so are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Unfortunately, child molesters live among us, our neighbors, our co-workers, professional people, wealthy people, poor people of all colors and creeds. There is no prototypical child molester in the way that they can be easily identified. It is partially because of blind allegience to people based on familiarity or common ties to those people that they go unchecked and the fact that the act of molestation seems so egregious that we can't believe that someone we know and believe to be a good person can have a dark side which they do not show to anyone excepting their victims. It is easier to rationalize away the accusation by discrediting the victims because the blink, or stammer or display the outward signs which are the manifistation of having been victimized.
The truth be known, I, too found myself thinking along those lines as this story unfolded. But I now realize that I was wrong. Very wrong and I regret that I even thought that way. I cannot change the past but I can resolve to do differently in the future.

 

[Cuseregular]

It doesn't matter a rats a$Z if they are drunks, meth heads or child molesters. What the Fines did is indefensible and it is pretty much clear at this point that they perpetrated some vile things upon at least one of these 3 accusers. As for one of them being accused of child molestation, it is common knowlege that most molesters are also victims, themselves of molestation.
It is also widely held that the trauma experienced by children who do not possesss the emotional faculties to process what is happening to them will often times develop a wall of denial and set up a paradigm of deceit and secrecy out of shame and guilt resultant from what has been perpatrated upon them. Child molestation is perhaps the most insidious of all crimes against humanity in that it forever changes the life of the victim.
So pervasive is the damage that many victims become incapable of developing healthy relationships with others and with themselves. It affects every aspect of their being and identity and will often manifest itself in dis-ease of the individual in the form of destructive behavior, alcoholism, drug abuse and in some cases the self loathing can be so powerful and troublesome that those victims resort to suicide as the only means of escape.
All this as a result of being the victim of sexual molestation. So perhaps it would be wise to think over what it would be like to be the victim of such a crime prior to rushing to judgement and condemnation of an individual who overcomes incredible stimga to come forward with the truth. They expose themselves to undue criticism and are called liars, addicts, drunks, ... and well you know the rest. All who do so are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Unfortunately, child molesters live among us, our neighbors, our co-workers, professional people, wealthy people, poor people of all colors and creeds. There is no prototypical child molester in the way that they can be easily identified. It is partially because of blind allegience to people based on familiarity or common ties to those people that they go unchecked and the fact that the act of molestation seems so egregious that we can't believe that someone we know and believe to be a good person can have a dark side which they do not show to anyone excepting their victims. It is easier to rationalize away the accusation by discrediting the victims because the blink, or stammer or display the outward signs which are the manifistation of having been victimized.
The truth be known, I, too found myself thinking along those lines as this story unfolded. But I now realize that I was wrong. Very wrong and I regret that I even thought that way. I cannot change the past but I can resolve to do differently in the future.

Awesome post man and spot on. Bunker yourself down for the inevitable avalanche of "theres not enough evidence that Bernie did it" from all angles here. Especially the JD character who maintains that Davis was a crack head loser from the ages of 5-11. Was in your position earlier today and it wasn't pretty. Hang in there.

 

[690West]

Awesome post man and spot on. Bunker yourself down for the inevitable avalanche of "theres not enough evidence that Bernie did it" from all angles here. Especially the JD character who maintains that Davis was a crack head loser from the ages of 5-11. Was in your position earlier today and it wasn't pretty. Hang in there.

J.D. or J-D ? I'm confused.

Oh the poster JD. saw that

 

[Syracuse1957]

It doesn't matter a rats a$Z if they are drunks, meth heads or child molesters. What the Fines did is indefensible and it is pretty much clear at this point that they perpetrated some vile things upon at least one of these 3 accusers. As for one of them being accused of child molestation, it is common knowlege that most molesters are also victims, themselves of molestation.
It is also widely held that the trauma experienced by children who do not possesss the emotional faculties to process what is happening to them will often times develop a wall of denial and set up a paradigm of deceit and secrecy out of shame and guilt resultant from what has been perpatrated upon them. Child molestation is perhaps the most insidious of all crimes against humanity in that it forever changes the life of the victim.
So pervasive is the damage that many victims become incapable of developing healthy relationships with others and with themselves. It affects every aspect of their being and identity and will often manifest itself in dis-ease of the individual in the form of destructive behavior, alcoholism, drug abuse and in some cases the self loathing can be so powerful and troublesome that those victims resort to suicide as the only means of escape.
All this as a result of being the victim of sexual molestation. So perhaps it would be wise to think over what it would be like to be the victim of such a crime prior to rushing to judgement and condemnation of an individual who overcomes incredible stimga to come forward with the truth. They expose themselves to undue criticism and are called liars, addicts, drunks, ... and well you know the rest. All who do so are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Unfortunately, child molesters live among us, our neighbors, our co-workers, professional people, wealthy people, poor people of all colors and creeds. There is no prototypical child molester in the way that they can be easily identified. It is partially because of blind allegience to people based on familiarity or common ties to those people that they go unchecked and the fact that the act of molestation seems so egregious that we can't believe that someone we know and believe to be a good person can have a dark side which they do not show to anyone excepting their victims. It is easier to rationalize away the accusation by discrediting the victims because the blink, or stammer or display the outward signs which are the manifistation of having been victimized.
The truth be known, I, too found myself thinking along those lines as this story unfolded. But I now realize that I was wrong. Very wrong and I regret that I even thought that way. I cannot change the past but I can resolve to do differently in the future.

Excellent post.

 

[EastCoast2]

Everyone involved is a complete disaster imo. Hard for me to take anyone seriously. Lang, Davis, Tomaselli, Bernie, and Laurie scare me for the future of humanity.

 

[EastCoast2]

very humbling day, to say the least

 

[SaintTristan]

the poster who was ranting that the accusers were drunks and meth addicts and a host of other slurs hasn't shown his face on here for a bit. There are lessons to be learned here for many here, including myself.

Hope you are not referring to me because I have been posting all day. [Taking into account that I live in a time zone 9 hrs ahead of yours and I do sleep once in a while]

And this doesnt change the fact that davis is a meth head and the other one is a drunk.

Now its a meth head, a drunk and a child molester. Actually, 2 molesters. actually, with Fine's wife this story now includes three child molesters. messed up world.

 

[orange03]

Completely unfortunate what apparently happened to them, but that doesn't change the fact that they are indeed drug addicts and drunks.

 

[gmoney44]

I was one of those posters...and I still believe Davis and Lang to be drunks. I also still believe you are innocent until proven guilty...which not a single person has been guilty of anything other than fine's wife sleeping with Bobby davis. I agree fine should be fired but we still have proven nothing with the three idiot accusers...one drunk..one child molester..and one meth head,

This is what happens to people that make idiotic statements before they have all the information. Instead of admitting they were wrong they dig in and try to defend their indefensible position. Let's hope JB is smarter then you.

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[SaintTristan]

Completely unfortunate what apparently happened to them, but that doesn't change the fact that they are indeed drug addicts and drunks.

Yep.

 

[Flacusian]

Hope you are not referring to me because I have been posting all day. [Taking into account that I live in a time zone 9 hrs ahead of yours and I do sleep once in a while]

And this doesnt change the fact that davis is a meth head and the other one is a drunk.

Now its a meth head, a drunk and a child molester. Actually, 2 molesters. actually, with Fine's wife this story now includes three child molesters. messed up world.

If the shoe fits...

 

[SaintTristan]

If the shoe fits...

Apology accepted. not your fault - you live in upstate ny.

 

[Flacusian]

Apology accepted. not your fault - you live in upstate ny.

Unbelievable! 1. I was in no way offering an apology. 2. I do not live anywhere near Upstate New York. 3. Look down, you are missing a shoe.

 

[SaintTristan]

Unbelievable! 1. I was in no way offering an apology. 2. I do not live anywhere near Upstate New York. 3. Look down, you are missing a shoe.

I accepted your apology. you are now dismissed.