Jim Boeheim Believes Syracuse Needs $10 million in NIL to Be Competitive

[sufan59]

He saw the loss to Hofstra and is digging in protecting his guy after he himself said at the beginning of the season this would be a good team.

I vaguely remember his one concern in preseason interviews was that William Kyle is too small.

 

[kingtidge]

What I don't get of what he's saying is he says every year is a rebuild AND every coach needs 5 years. If every year is a rebuild, then you don't need to build the program (like you used to), so why do you need 5 years?

Because it's his legacy we're talking about...

But seriously... not gonna lie - the 5 years comment has me concerned. These sort of interviews and a comment like that doesn't happen out of thin air.

The administration trotted Jim out LY to soft-sell a year 3 runback, promising more NIL/better players and that is what happened. I sincerely hope the goalposts haven't just been officially moved.

 

[JarHeadJim]

Oh Jim….

That's what my wife says!

 

[Grbac]

I vaguely remember his one concern in preseason interviews was that William Kyle is too small.

Well of course. Everyone knows you need a 7’3” 195lb Nigerian who just started playing basketball 2 months ago. Which is crazy considering Etan Thomas and Rak were about Kyle’s exact size.

 

[MikeSU02]

This was his first podcast??? Is that true? If so, good for JB. Would love him to go on with Zach Lowe to chat NBA. Or if One Shining Podcast with Tate Frazier comes back, he'd be great on that too.

He was self-deprecating off the jump, which was funny.

One note, he talked about having our best player out and judging how good a team is. He used Burrow/Bengals as an example. Used Syracuse losing their QB this year for football. High praise for Donnie.

As noted, talked about more money needed for NIL. Oregon spent $40M on football he said. Also said FSU has a lot of money to spend on football and not winning, so not a guarantee. But you need money to compete at the highest level.

He reiterated how hard it is to lose your best player.

Ceiling for the team: Says that if they make their FTs, they are 8-2 and almost ranked. To get into the tourney need quad 1 wins and can get them this year in the acc.

Getting better at FTs simple or no? There is a lot to it. They practice FTs every day. It becomes a mental thing. He notes he had some bad FT shooting team. But they made more FTs than the other team shot. Can't have the amount of misses that we had against Houston.

If we can get to 65% or so shooting FTs and get Donnie back, we'll be right there.

Basically also says that people will always blame the HC no matter what.

Says you lose because of everything -- rebounding, missed too many shots, allowed too many etc etc. But HC always catches the blame (and he did admit that is part of the job to take the blame).

 

[OttosDad]

He’s running back the same lazy excuses from last year.
They reportedly have a significant amount more money this year. They gave red the tools now he has to deliver.

Boeheim is gonna throw a hissy fit when they hire from outside his coaching tree. He needs to shut up and go away. He’s done nothing, NOTHING productive for the program since he retired.

 

[MikeSU02]

"Way better than last years team"
"Last years team had no money and had to settle for certain types of players"

He gave a shout to William Kyle. "As hard a working player as I've seen at Syracuse". Saw it in summer ball.

George is a good player, just hasn't played well, but he can. Things like that can turn. They can play better. They have more money and got into the portal earlier.

"JJ has been up and down but a good player."

 

[phil77]

No amount of money will make Red a good coach.

 

[Newhouser]

There's nothing new here. We all know the number (roughly) teams are spending. We've been told it's not a money issue. He also, as we know, just says things. I hope this was not running interference for the school. We need to move on from this extremely weak tree.

 

[MikeSU02]

Kiyan: has to get stronger, plays like Moten. If Kiyan becomes a great shooter, he'll become a great player. he doesn't have Melo's strength, so he's got to focus on his perimeter game.

 

[Scooch]

But seriously... not gonna lie - the 5 years comment has me concerned. These sort of interviews and a comment like that doesn't happen out of thin air.

The administration trotted Jim out LY to soft-sell a year 3 runback, promising more NIL/better players and that is what happened. I sincerely hope the goalposts haven't just been officially moved.

Of course a comment from Jim Boeheim can happen out of thin air. MOST comments from Jim Boeheim happen out of thin air.

Boeheim says things. And he’s been doing it for a long time now.

$10 million is a fair number.

5 years in utter insanity and there’s zero chance that’s the runway SU is giving Autry. Zero.

 

[dasher]

I could be wrong but I don't think JB is running any interference for the school. It is what it is. Red knows what is expected this year. And that is why he took the loss to Hofstra so hard last Saturday.

 

[RyanCuse44]

This was also from the same interview:

 

[Trueblue25]

Personally don’t value his opinion much anymore.

 

[tptcuse]

Those two ideas cannot co-exist. You can't ask people to donate $10 million a year AND wait for five years for results from a coach.

 

[hungrychuck]

Jim has rarely done himself any favors when he decided to run his mouth.

Some things don’t change.

 

[nocohalo]

Is it any wonder why this program imploded

 

[CU44SE]

Sorry, I can respect what Jim did for the program. And will always recognize that.

However, he also held the program hostage the last 8 years and ran it into the ground. Then the only way he went kicking and screaming was to get a cushy job with a high salary. Oh; and hire someone on the bench that was there for the last 8 years, which was the worst stretch in Jim’s tenure.

 

[CuseBlood44]

Those two ideas cannot co-exist. You can't ask people to donate $10 million a year AND wait for five years for results from a coach.

Bingo. Red can’t sell any of us on his competence, no way is he selling donors either compared to a Fran brown. His post game conference after Hofstra was awful, came across as very unconvincing and poorly spoken

 

[Scooch]

Those two ideas cannot co-exist. You can't ask people to donate $10 million a year AND wait for five years for results from a coach.

Yep. Five years is a preposterous ask when a P5 college hoops program can literally be turned around in one season.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Bingo. Red can’t sell any of us on his competence, no way is he selling donors either compared to a Fran brown. His post game conference after Hofstra was awful, came across as very unconvincing and poorly spoken

People seem to forget that Fran lost his last eight games. He hasn’t proven he can find wins without McCord.

 

[orangecuse]

All true but why post that on this board?

Because, it was rather apparent to me, that his "scholarship was fair compensation" and ensuing "cry laugh" comment was blatant snark at those whom had a different view and sentiment here in the past. Moreover, things being relative in life as mentioned, there was a time when these young adults on full rides, free housing, access to excellent facilities, perks, stipends, etc., etc. felt extremely fortunate of this true opportunity of a lifetime. One, in which, if not given such good fortune, well, let's just say, who knows where their plight in life would've taken them.

So, things have evolved on the collegiate revenue sports landscape to the point of where they are nowadays, a place where fortunate 'young adults' in all probability are pinching themselves daily. Case in point; check out (if you hadn't seen it) the recent 60 Minutes interview of IU QB, Fernando Mendoza. He giddily acknowledged being paid 2 million dollars this year, almost in disbelief, at least from my interpretation.

Anyways, I presented a correlation where CEO's, in all probability, are pinching themselves as well. Albeit, in an exponentially more extreme manner.

 

[Scooch]

People seem to forget that Fran lost his last eight games. He hasn’t proven he can find wins without McCord.

Yet he seems to still be flush with NIL money to acquire players. Not sure how long it’ll last, I imagine another poor season will harm that.

But despite this years results he seems to be able to part SU boosters from their money far more effectively than Autry.

 

[Brooky03]

0% of what he said is controversial.

 

[Brooky03]

People seem to forget that Fran lost his last eight games. He hasn’t proven he can find wins without McCord.

That’s wild. I thought he had won games when the starting QB played this season.