Joe Filardi

[CbusCuse]

This is what I heard from a reliable source. Carney starts against BC...ND, probably Collins with a dash of Filadi??

Part of building culture is keeping your promises and managing expectations. Fran made a promise to Luke and his parents that he would red-shirt Luke this year. Promise kept! As a result, I'm reasonably sure you won't see Luke in the portal.

If all this is true, I think that helps explain why play calls were so limited for Luke. If he throws the ball all over the yard, fans would be clamoring why he didn't play more. Temper expectations by having him hand the ball off in his limited playing time. I'm looking forward to his start against BC.

I figured as much about the redshirt even though most posters seemed to say redshirts don't matter, burn it. But if the kid came in with the plan of redshirting and was sold on that well...

But I can't say i agree with not giving him much to do in a game just because he's redshirting. That doesn't make sense to me. You play to win and you and him both want to get him valuable experience. And If he's good and plays good then maybe he changes his mind and wants to play. So not sure i would buy that the reason he didn't have much of a workload is solely because of the redshirting thing.

 

[ScriptCuse]

Jakhari seemingly not even being a thought of being a possible potential option here is truly surprising

 

[Dick_in_MI]

But I can't say i agree with not giving him much to do in a game just because he's redshirting. That doesn't make sense to me. You play to win and you and him both want to get him valuable experience.

Agree.

If you are not doing everything you can to win, you are doing a disservice to the rest of the guys on your team as well as the patrons who forked over their good money to watch and root for you.

 

[Hawknate144]

Jakhari must be REALLY bad

id wager he either sucks way worse than we think or hes already told fran he is transferring

 

[Archbold44]

Jakhari seemingly not even being a thought of being a possible potential option here is truly surprising

The last two games, our starters have gone 4 for 18 for 39 yards (and a fumble)... and 12 for 25 for 85 yards (2 INTs ). I think Donovan McNabb at his current age/body could match these stats. If Jakhari cannot... it might be time to drop down a level or three.

 

[23Zone]

id wager he either sucks way worse than we think or hes already told fran he is transferring

Logic would suggest option #2

 

[GoSU96]

Jakhari seemingly not even being a thought of being a possible potential option here is truly surprising

Not really

 

[CbusCuse]

id wager he either sucks way worse than we think or hes already told fran he is transferring

This is not what i'm thinking the situation is. I don't think the issue is he is not nearly good enough. I think he wasn't quite ready somewhat like Filardi. But I think the plan was to redshirt Carney and I bet Fran was a little perturbed Carney's camp didn't change their stance on playing this season due to the circumstances that unfolded. I understand it from both sides. But i'm sure Fran will get over it as that will need to be water under the bridge. I'd guess he didn't get a chance to do much initially because the staff was being ultra conservative. And then once Carney's camp made it known about the desire to still redshirt, that made Filardi now the next man up and who is going to get a majority of the reps after Rickie as he is who we are rolling with.

And i don't think he's stated he's transferring. That doesn't make sense. If so he'd be gone now. Its still possible he does but i certainly don't think that has been stated.

He's in a pretty good situation if you ask me. its not like he is some high 4 star or 5 star with prototypical size who is just absolutely ready to play right now or next year as a redshirt Freshman. We have some nice weapons coming in. Hopefully we can see what he can do against BC, but i think he is a good fit for what we want in a QB. If he looks fairly solid, serving as the second string to Angeli for 1 to 2 years is not a bad spot to be in. He could easily get PT if Angeli were to get injured or banged up again. I can't imagine he would find a much better spot. He should be happy with where he is.

This is all speculation mind you.

Edit: Just realized your comment was in regards to Jakhari and not Carney. My bad. But my thoughts on Carney still stand.

 

[Archbold44]

This is not what i'm thinking the situation is. I don't think the issue is he is not nearly good enough. I think he wasn't quite ready somewhat like Filardi. But I think the plan was to redshirt Carney and I bet Fran was a little perturbed Carney's camp didn't change their stance on playing this season due to the circumstances that unfolded. I understand it from both sides. But i'm sure Fran will get over it as that will need to be water under the bridge. I'd guess he didn't get a chance to do much initially because the staff was being ultra conservative. And then once Carney's camp made it known about the desire to still redshirt, that made Filardi now the next man up and who is going to get a majority of the reps after Rickie as he is who we are rolling with.

And i don't think he's stated he's transferring. That doesn't make sense. If so he'd be gone now. Its still possible he does but i certainly don't think that has been stated.

He's in a pretty good situation if you ask me. its not like he is some high 4 star or 5 star with prototypical size who is just absolutely ready to play right now or next year as a redshirt Freshman. We have some nice weapons coming in. Hopefully we can see what he can do against BC, but i think he is a good fit for what we want in a QB. If he looks fairly solid, serving as the second string to Angeli for 1 to 2 years is not a bad spot to be in. He could easily get PT if Angeli were to get injured or banged up again. I can't imagine he would find a much better spot. He should be happy with where he is.

This is all speculation mind you.

And, yet, we are listing Carney as QB#2 this week (again). If he is forced in due to emergency (Filardi with season-ending injury), then what? Carney for one game and then only Collins against BC? Or, more likely, we go to Collins as QB#2 at ND. But why have Carney on the depth chart at all if we are redshirting him?

It was like when Angeli went down, we lost our coaching sense too. However, the misuse of QBs against Colgate predated his injury. Why put Angeli back in? What if he had gotten hurt extending our lead? Why not use Carney for a whole drive against Colgate? See what he can do against FCS?

Meanwhile, why play him against BC? If he is allowed to pass and does well, Fran is going to have some answering to do as to why he did not play earlier. If he does poorly, then why did he expose him to PT when he was not ready?

 

[tbonezone]

fran's already got the football fan base pissed off . you want the entire lax base pissed as well ?
if you know you gotta run your ride down a gravel road (ND) and the paints gonna get dinged up...
drive your clunker.

 

[ImperialOrange]

And, yet, we are listing Carney as QB#2 this week (again). If he is forced in due to emergency (Filardi with season-ending injury), then what? Carney for one game and then only Collins against BC? Or, more likely, we go to Collins as QB#2 at ND. But why have Carney on the depth chart at all if we are redshirting him?

It was like when Angeli went down, we lost our coaching sense too. However, the misuse of QBs against Colgate predated his injury. Why put Angeli back in? What if he had gotten hurt extending our lead? Why not use Carney for a whole drive against Colgate? See what he can do against FCS?

Meanwhile, why play him against BC? If he is allowed to pass and does well, Fran is going to have some answering to do as to why he did not play earlier. If he does poorly, then why did he expose him to PT when he was not ready?

We simply cannot play Pickie against BC. Our defense and running game can potentially win that game on their own so long as we don't have a QB directly spot them points and/or positive field position with turnovers. I feel terrible for the defense and all upper classmen in general and hope we can end their season on a high.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Agree. Looked a lot more composed against Miami. I think it is a no-brainer to give him PT against ND. I think I would start Collins and have him on a short leash before Filardi gets some PT.

Collins' career is done as a P4 quarterback

 

[Dinkyspond]

id wager he either sucks way worse than we think or hes already told fran he is transferring

the latter I'm sure

 

[Dinkyspond]

This is not what i'm thinking the situation is. I don't think the issue is he is not nearly good enough. I think he wasn't quite ready somewhat like Filardi. But I think the plan was to redshirt Carney and I bet Fran was a little perturbed Carney's camp didn't change their stance on playing this season due to the circumstances that unfolded. I understand it from both sides. But i'm sure Fran will get over it as that will need to be water under the bridge. I'd guess he didn't get a chance to do much initially because the staff was being ultra conservative. And then once Carney's camp made it known about the desire to still redshirt, that made Filardi now the next man up and who is going to get a majority of the reps after Rickie as he is who we are rolling with.

And i don't think he's stated he's transferring. That doesn't make sense. If so he'd be gone now. Its still possible he does but i certainly don't think that has been stated.

He's in a pretty good situation if you ask me. its not like he is some high 4 star or 5 star with prototypical size who is just absolutely ready to play right now or next year as a redshirt Freshman. We have some nice weapons coming in. Hopefully we can see what he can do against BC, but i think he is a good fit for what we want in a QB. If he looks fairly solid, serving as the second string to Angeli for 1 to 2 years is not a bad spot to be in. He could easily get PT if Angeli were to get injured or banged up again. I can't imagine he would find a much better spot. He should be happy with where he is.

This is all speculation mind you.

I think Carney is transferring too

 

[Oakland]

I think Carney is transferring too

Hard to think otherwise. At this point, I think the best QB at the moment is Villari. And have him pass, not just run. He is not a good down field passer but he can make the short throws.

 

[tptcuse]

And, yet, we are listing Carney as QB#2 this week (again). If he is forced in due to emergency (Filardi with season-ending injury), then what? Carney for one game and then only Collins against BC? Or, more likely, we go to Collins as QB#2 at ND. But why have Carney on the depth chart at all if we are redshirting him?

It was like when Angeli went down, we lost our coaching sense too. However, the misuse of QBs against Colgate predated his injury. Why put Angeli back in? What if he had gotten hurt extending our lead? Why not use Carney for a whole drive against Colgate? See what he can do against FCS?

Meanwhile, why play him against BC? If he is allowed to pass and does well, Fran is going to have some answering to do as to why he did not play earlier. If he does poorly, then why did he expose him to PT when he was not ready?

The Colgate game was an outlier. At that point I am sure the staff thought that Angeli would get every snap for the rest of the season. And if needed, Collins would be serviceable. They were wrong.

 

[Chip]

Meanwhile, why play him against BC? If he is allowed to pass and does well, Fran is going to have some answering to do as to why he did not play earlier. If he does poorly, then why did he expose him to PT when he was not ready?

On this, no one's going to care either way.

If he does well, it's because we were playing a 1-10 team with nearly the worst defense in all of college football (#132 out of 136).

If he does poorly, then it's just yet another bad QB performance in a post-Angeli season of bad QB performances. If he can survive questions about why Filardi played against UNC on national TV in a short week when a bowl game was still mathematically possible, then he can survive questions about why Carney played in a meaningless final game against a terrible team that no one saw.

 

[Archbold44]

On this, no one's going to care either way.

If he does well, it's because we were playing a 1-10 team with nearly the worst defense in all of college football (#132 out of 136).

If he does poorly, then it's just yet another bad QB performance in a post-Angeli season of bad QB performances. If he can survive questions about why Filardi played against UNC on national TV in a short week when a bowl game was still mathematically possible, then he can survive questions about why Carney played in a meaningless final game against a terrible team that no one saw.

I suppose. Just saying that if Carney looks TOO good... the narrative is going to be how he might have kept us in a few games during this stretch of consecutive blowouts.

After playing us, Georgia Tech has given up 82 points to NC State and BC. We scored 16.

Duke has given up 17+ points to every team it has played, including Elon. 6 games giving up 30+ points. We scored 3.

The SMU game is one of the few where we scored more against them (18) than some other P4 schools. BC, Stanford, and Wake Forest (a loss for SMU). And we were down 31-3 before they let up.

Only BC scored less against Pitt. Well, Duquesne also. Duquesne had 9 to our 13.

I mean... our offense has been embarrassingly bad. FCS teams have been almost as effective against our opponents as us post-Angeli. If Carney puts up 20+ points (2TDs, 2 FGs)... even against BC... there will be questions as to why he did not play more.

And if they play him but don't let him pass... then why play him at all??

 

[Chip]

I suppose. Just saying that if Carney looks TOO good... the narrative is going to be how he might have kept us in a few games during this stretch of consecutive blowouts.

After playing us, Georgia Tech has given up 82 points to NC State and BC. We scored 16.

Duke has given up 17+ points to every team it has played, including Elon. 6 games giving up 30+ points. We scored 3.

The SMU game is one of the few where we scored more against them (18) than some other P4 schools. BC, Stanford, and Wake Forest (a loss for SMU). And we were down 31-3 before they let up.

Only BC scored less against Pitt. Well, Duquesne also. Duquesne had 9 to our 13.

I mean... our offense has been embarrassingly bad. FCS teams have been almost as effective against our opponents as us post-Angeli. If Carney puts up 20+ points (2TDs, 2 FGs)... even against BC... there will be questions as to why he did not play more.

And if they play him but don't let him pass... then why play him at all??

Agree 1000% with the last point. If he plays against BC, he better have the freedom to throw the ball.

But to the first one, if he looks good, I think people will just feel more comfortable about having a backup plan next year. I don't think there will be a lot of 'what if' analysis of this season.

Yes, I will continue to mock how we had to pull him for 3rd and 9 against Pitt because that was too far, but end of the day, just want more answers for next year.

 

[GoSU96]

I suppose. Just saying that if Carney looks TOO good... the narrative is going to be how he might have kept us in a few games during this stretch of consecutive blowouts.

After playing us, Georgia Tech has given up 82 points to NC State and BC. We scored 16.

Duke has given up 17+ points to every team it has played, including Elon. 6 games giving up 30+ points. We scored 3.

The SMU game is one of the few where we scored more against them (18) than some other P4 schools. BC, Stanford, and Wake Forest (a loss for SMU). And we were down 31-3 before they let up.

Only BC scored less against Pitt. Well, Duquesne also. Duquesne had 9 to our 13.

I mean... our offense has been embarrassingly bad. FCS teams have been almost as effective against our opponents as us post-Angeli. If Carney puts up 20+ points (2TDs, 2 FGs)... even against BC... there will be questions as to why he did not play more.

And if they play him but don't let him pass... then why play him at all??

It just doesn’t matter .

People need to step back on the second guessing and hand wringing.

 

[Archbold44]

It just doesn’t matter .

People need to step back on the second guessing and hand wringing.

In other words... stop being a fan (but keep sending money please).

 

[Bayside44]

It just doesn’t matter .

People need to step back on the second guessing and hand wringing.

100%

 

[Cappy3]

It just doesn’t matter .

People need to step back on the second guessing and hand wringing.

Don’t worry. Be happy.

 

[Blanko97]

All around embarrassing inability to develop a second QB. No two ways about it.

 

[JRHEETER]

fran's already got the football fan base pissed off . you want the entire lax base pissed as well ?
if you know you gotta run your ride down a gravel road (ND) and the paints gonna get dinged up...
drive your clunker.

Does he have the fan base pissed off or just a few hardcores?

TBH this season is trending about the way we expected it. We knew it would be tough to even get a bowl.

Angeli went out and played lights out and got people thinking...and then was crushed by the injury.


To be completely transparent, this got me thinking and beyond excited for the 26/27 seasons, especially with the recruits we have coming in and the players who are so young on this team getting valuable playing time this season, in a season with not a lot of pressure due to how its unfolded.

These young true freshman are going to be experienced red shirt freshman next season and thats a huge advvantage.