Johntay Cook in the portal

[anomander]

Stuff happens you can recruit with the best of intentions, but the player has to hold his end of the bargain. Every team will experience this.

I agree, but Fran is a bit over the top with some of his requirements. Far more than any other school. For 18-19 years who haven’t previously had any structure in their life this could be extremely hard to adapt to. Then when they don’t totally conform you don’t want them with the program. Honestly, I think he needs to lighten up a bit in some areas.

 

[djorange1989]

I agree, but Fran is a bit over the top with some of his requirements. Far more than any other school. For 18-19 years who haven’t previously had any structure in their life is extremely hard to adapt. Then when they don’t totally conform you don’t want them with the program. Honestly, I think he needs to lighten up a bit in some areas.

Maybe he will a bit. I think even Marrone lightened up a bit.

 

[XC Cuse]

I agree, but Fran is a bit over the top with some of his requirements. Far more than any other school. For 18-19 years who haven’t previously had any structure in their life is extremely hard to adapt. Then when they don’t totally conform you don’t want them with the program. Honestly, I think he needs to lighten up a bit in some areas.

Maybe, but Johntay is a guy whose had more than enough breaks. If he is an issue as been alluded to by some insiders, I have no remorse.

 

[ImperialOrange]

You think the insiders are with the team, they’re not. These are people who are a part of the community, they don’t have isolated loyalties. The network is much more important to help understand the high school landscape though

Everyone has loyalties. Noone in Frisco Texas or Sacramento California or Baton Rouge Louisiana owes or will offer insider information to Syracuse or Fran Brown to the detriment of their local kids.

 

[bnoro]

Oh hey, it's almost like some of us that had concerns about us bringing a guy like this in are now justified...

 

[PAcuse]

Oh hey, it's almost like some of us that had concerns about us bringing a guy like this in are now justified...

 

[javadoc]

Belamy, Cruz, Pena, Willis, Gill, and James. Each gets some sort of accountability issue assigned to them after they've played significant snaps. perhaps its just handwaving to dismiss major losses or it could be sign of a bigger issue. We will see next year.

As for the 7th i was thinking about hatcher but his story is more complicated.

If certain posters here say it's not handwaving, it's not.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

I look

 

[PAcuse]

I look

like leftover Christmas dinner?

 

[wfschrec]

OBJ had no issues in college
Ray Rice had no issues in college
Lot's of NFL players/stars have no issues in college and then it's a trainwreck
Yes the NFL has ALOT more resources and time to weed out the "bad" ones and the hope
High School coaches tend to cover up players negatives to make sure they get to college and colleges can't spend the time and money the NFL does

I believe what everyone is trying to say is we are dealing with humans, younger ones, and we are prone to do stupid things
So yes even our starters that are captains can do stupid things

Don’t forget Lawrence Phillips … whew

 

[sufandu]

I agree, but Fran is a bit over the top with some of his requirements. Far more than any other school. For 18-19 years who haven’t previously had any structure in their life is extremely hard to adapt. Then when they don’t totally conform you don’t want them with the program. Honestly, I think he needs to lighten up a bit in some areas.

Stuff like that is often exactly what guys previously lacking structure need. It just may not be what the like. Fran is from the same background, so he has a better idea than most.

 

[SuFTW]

Belamy, Cruz, Pena, Willis, Gill, and James. Each gets some sort of accountability issue assigned to them after they've played significant snaps. perhaps its just handwaving to dismiss major losses or it could be sign of a bigger issue. We will see next year.

As for the 7th i was thinking about hatcher but his story is more complicated.

You are incorrect on Cruz, Pena, Gill and James being asked to leave because of character/accountability issues. Go back and read their threads.
Cruz - lost starting job, didn’t mesh with new OL coach for unknown reason
Pena - Tried to renegotiate his deal after agreeing to be team captain and told to get the bigger NIL deal if that was what he wanted.
Gill - Leaving for money and bigger spotlight
James - Hasn’t shown enough after two years to justify continuing his scholarship.

Bellamy, I don’t know off the top of my head, but I doubt him also.

 

[shu 49]

I think we kind of did stop throwing to him. His late season snap count was highly diminished and other guys got looks.

I said it weeks ago, but he was far from a guaranteed starter if he stayed. He would've had to work his ass off this offseason to earn that... but instead he tried to leverage more money?

He's been getting a lot of bad advice over the years and seems to have a distorted self value as result. I actually kind of feel bad for the guy as others are effectively ruining his golden ticket. He's been told he's LeBron but he plays like Bronny... but still is convinced he's LeBron. I half wonder if he even knows this.

Ur spot on

 

[bnoro]

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I don't care about the internet points. But the fact of the matter is you can't live by D.A.R.T. and bring people in that aren't accountable.

 

[CA Monk]

Any event, I'm curious to see where Cook might land, or who is willing to take a chance on him now.

 

[Blanko97]

If certain posters here say it's not handwaving, it's not.

I agree, I’m just saying it’s either bad apples or handwaving.

 

[anomander]

Stuff like that is often exactly what guys previously lacking structure need. It just may not be what the like. Fran is from the same background, so he has a better idea than most.

This isn’t the military though. This is (semi-pro) football. Forcing faith is weird. I get the community service parts, but that should come from the heart. I do believe he has the kids best interest, but something isn’t clicking. It’s almost like they’re burned out by the time they’re entering their upperclassmen and can start to make a difference. That’s a lot of wasted time and investment. For anyone that has played college sports you realize it’s hard enough. It seems like there are a lot of unnecessary responsibilities added on top.

 

[PAcuse]

I don't care about the internet points. But the fact of the matter is you can't live by D.A.R.T. and bring people in that aren't accountable.

Yeah was just a joke I'm aware you don't care about internet points because that's fun and you don't like that stuff

 

[RyanCuse44]

Do I need to make the speech again? View attachment 258430

This backs it up too so easy to make this poster look stupid -

 

[sufandu]

This isn’t the military though. This is (semi-pro) football. Forcing faith is weird. I get the community service parts, but that should come from the heart. I do believe he has the kids best interest, but something isn’t clicking. It’s almost like they’re burned out by the time they’re entering their upperclassmen and can start to make a difference. That’s a lot of wasted time and investment. For anyone that has played college sports you realize it’s hard enough. It seems like there are a lot of unnecessary responsibilities added on top.

It seems like a lot assumptions are being made without being someone that's in the locker room. Do you have inside info?

 

[anomander]

It seems like a lot assumptions are being made without being someone that's in the locker room. Do you have inside info?

You would be surprised at my answer.