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What ever happened to the coon dog?
Last I knew he managed a sports facility near his home town.
What ever happened to the coon dog?
Judah is a good player, and with a better team around him I think it would have worked out better. I think Judah felt compelled to put the team on his back. 22-23 I think it was the best policy to keep the ball in his hands. When Copeland emerged this season, things changed.
I have no problems whatsoever with how he carried himself on the court, as so many other posters seem to. An unfortunate reality of his game is that the officials could easily control just how impactful he could be in a given contest.
Not being drafted or drafted late in the NBA is no indicator of the type of college player one is. Our all time scorer and a great collegiate player, Lawrence Moten was drafted in the second round. Things did not work out for him in the NBA. There are countless others with similar storiesThank god NBA front offices don’t think like you.
Evidence: Judah isn’t close to an nba draft pick this year.
Google it. Congrats on being willfully ignorant.
What ever happened to the coon dog?
Second team ACC
8th in total votes. Kid sucks.
He was on NBA boards and then he wasn’t. He ain’t going to Duke. People here forgot what an actual baller looks like.
Glad he hogged the ball tho.
Not being drafted or drafted late in the NBA is no indicator of the type of college player one is. Our all time scorer and a great collegiate player, Lawrence Moten was drafted in the second round. Things did not work out for him in the NBA. There are countless others with similar stories
The point is that many great college players never play or flame out fast in the NBA. Judah is an excellent college player. That being said, as you believe he won't get drafted he has every incentive in the world to grab the biggest bag he can. That. might not work, a la Jesse Edwards, but at least Jesse got a huge payday. Problem for SU today is if we replace him with a steady, pass first point guard do we have the scorers to compete. I don't think we do yet. How much NIL do we need to keep who you want to keep and add the scoring, rebounding and rim protecting we need, and who is paying the freight for all that.You are missing the point. He was drafted and played 111 games for the Grizz.
I don't see how Judah even gets the mins Buddy has got in the NBA at this pt.
Are you kidding? My daughter was about eight and made me a Father's Day card that was a picture of me having a coronary screaming at Scoop through the TV.I don't remember Scoop being sort of hated. Judah is interesting in that while he has been exceptionally good and instrumental in many wins, he is so disliked by many. His style isn't likeable, nor his the personality that he projects. Whatever, I'm ready for next up.
The point is that many great college players never play or flame out fast in the NBA. Judah is an excellent college player. That being said, as you believe he won't get drafted he has every incentive in the world to grab the biggest bag he can. That. might not work, a la Jesse Edwards, but at least Jesse got a huge payday. Problem for SU today is if we replace him with a steady, pass first point guard do we have the scorers to compete. I don't think we do yet. How much NIL do we need to keep who you want to keep and add the scoring, rebounding and rim protecting we need, and who is paying the freight for all that.
This is incredibleAre you kidding? My daughter was about eight and made me a Father's Day card that was a picture of me having a coronary screaming at Scoop through the TV.
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The massive point here is the second point you make. Whatever everyone thinks of Judah and whether he’s back or not or in the nba or not, do we really have the ability to answer all the deficiencies no one is talking about in this particular thread?The point is that many great college players never play or flame out fast in the NBA. Judah is an excellent college player. That being said, as you believe he won't get drafted he has every incentive in the world to grab the biggest bag he can. That. might not work, a la Jesse Edwards, but at least Jesse got a huge payday. Problem for SU today is if we replace him with a steady, pass first point guard do we have the scorers to compete. I don't think we do yet. How much NIL do we need to keep who you want to keep and add the scoring, rebounding and rim protecting we need, and who is paying the freight for all that.
“Scoop dressed like a clown” has me rolling lol.Are you kidding? My daughter was about eight and made me a Father's Day card that was a picture of me having a coronary screaming at Scoop through the TV.
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So I think this is fine to say. Again, not sure I agree entirely but I do accept that it could be true.Yeah, he’s not an excellent college player.
He’s an excellent college scorer. Never played in the tourney.
It’s like the dip shoulder shrug and no defense after thinking he was fouled when he was just out of control in the paint or up against trees in the lane.I don't remember Scoop being sort of hated. Judah is interesting in that while he has been exceptionally good and instrumental in many wins, he is so disliked by many. His style isn't likeable, nor his the personality that he projects. Whatever, I'm ready for next up.
So I think this is fine to say. Again, not sure I agree entirely but I do accept that it could be true.
But two things:
1) Excellent college scorers are exceptionally important, particularly in March. A guy who is unlikely to sniff the NBA knocked out an entire team full of NBA players at Kentucky.
2) Judah bears some responsibility for falling short of the tourney. No question. But if I’m making a list, I’d bet I could point out about 15 things that killed us. Judah’s inconsistent defensive effort, over-dribbling and struggles shooting are on there … but there are many, many more.
I was thinking about this when I was just out on my run. Lots of people are clamoring for us to run Bell off of screens like Andy and Triche used to do. One of the most important parts of that play is the pass once the shooter is open. I simply can’t imagine Judah making that pass on time and to the spot where the shooter wants it.It’s like the dip shoulder shrug and no defense after thinking he was fouled when he was just out of control in the paint or up against trees in the lane.
He’s missed a lot of open guys, but I agree passing to JT probably isn’t optimal.
His long pass to Maliq for a dunk at GT last year was great.
True — but he is better than all those future nba guys? I thought nba draft status was the most important thing. It’s what’s been thrown my way 15 times in this thread.The guy who knocked out Kentucky hit 3s.
Extremely efficiently
Judah has done neither.
True — but he is better than all those future nba guys? I thought nba draft status was the most important thing. It’s what’s been thrown my way 15 times in this thread.
This argument keeps changing. Everyone said he sucked because he dropped down draft boards. Now it’s his 3-point shooting.
You guys don’t like his game. I get it. Makes sense even. But this team without Judah is clawing to get to 10 wins. Who is scoring and how are we scoring if he’s not there. Particularly those first 12 games or so with JJ struggling and McLeod chewing up minutes.
I was thinking about this when I was just out on my run. Lots of people are clamoring for us to run Bell off of screens like Andy and Triche used to do. One of the most important parts of that play is the pass once the shooter is open. I simply can’t imagine Judah making that pass on time and to the spot where the shooter wants it.
This isn’t directed to atlanticuse but just a general rant, sorry. We had JoeG and Jesse leave which only increased the importance of Benny coming through for SU, and when it didn’t work, it changed both JT and Maliq’s roles the most. Judah’s role probably changed also while JJ had to adjust to an entirely new staff, new role etc. Players who had limited minutes the year before were now starters or being relied upon to carry the team with even a new defense. This isn’t counting the increased importance of relying for leadership on all the sophomores and soph transfers under coaches also adjusting to new roles. Yet we still got 20 wins but are ripping on the players who got us there and gave us optimism for the future. Lots of late adjustments that had to be made and will still be made but I look forward to the future and am thankful for the players who accepted new roles to get us those 20 wins.It’s like the dip shoulder shrug and no defense after thinking he was fouled when he was just out of control in the paint or up against trees in the lane.
He’s missed a lot of open guys, but I agree passing to JT probably isn’t optimal.
His long pass to Maliq for a dunk at GT last year was great.
Two3zone literally said his game is trash. i mean, i read that as he’s the reason we’re not in the tourney, which i wholeheartedly disagree with — disappointing sophomore season or not. There have been a lot of similarly disparaging comments (not sure of yours specifically).No he’s not. They were in the tourney.
Nothing has changed, no one said we would have won more games without him. Not one poster.
Here’s a post from a month ago which says exactly how I viewed his game. Nothing changed.
Okay so the Judah play?
I think he was trying to shoot but got caught and ended up "passing". Just an absolutely awful play for a "veteran" point guard with almost 2 years of full playing time. Yes, passing as the avenue of last resort rarely results in something positive.syracusefan.com
I think what the majority is saying is we won’t miss him and the way he’s plays isn’t best to win in college basketball in 2024. The draft board comments are to show that others feel similarly
For you to slip that “we wouldn’t have won 10 games without Judah” is poor form. Total strawman stuff
This is one of the best things ever posted on this board.Are you kidding? My daughter was about eight and made me a Father's Day card that was a picture of me having a coronary screaming at Scoop through the TV.
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I respect your rant.This isn’t directed to atlanticuse but just a general rant, sorry. We had JoeG and Jesse leave which only increased the importance of Benny coming through for SU, and when it didn’t work, it changed both JT and Maliq’s roles the most. Judah’s role probably changed also while JJ had to adjust to an entirely new staff, new role etc. Players who had limited minutes the year before were now starters or being relied upon to carry the team with even a new defense. This isn’t counting the increased importance of relying for leadership on all the sophomores and soph transfers under coaches also adjusting to new roles. Yet we still got 20 wins but are ripping on the players who got us there and gave us optimism for the future. Lots of late adjustments that had to be made and will still be made but I look forward to the future and am thankful for the players who accepted new roles to get us those 20 wins.