Kadary Richmond in the transfer portal

[AZOrange]

FWIW. got the text message this morning on this. Kadary wanted the starting spot and JB wouldn't promise or give it to him. Tried to sell him on the Dion role but Kadary wasn't having it. One of our assistants are EXTREMELY upset, to the point of I wouldn't be surprised they dip this summer if given offered a job. He also has folks close to him saying that every program will be after you (listening to the internet gush over him). We'll see what happens. Sucks

I should have added an assistant to my list of departures...

 

[Eagles20]

I find that hard to believe. Can you tell me where you saw or read that ?

It's not technically what he said. He said when it comes to being in the correct position in the zone Buddy and Joe play it technically sound. He said Kadary made more steals ect.

I won't argue that athleticism and length makes up for being out of position at times. Kadary did an outstanding job in the zone as a freshman. I also won't argue he was the best defender in the zone because of his physical attributes. Just because Joe and Buddy played the zone positionally sound doesn't mean they didn't give up points or their lack of athleticism or length didn't hurt them defensively.

 

[PauliePeppas]

I get the whole “never make promises to kids” but damn if there ever was a time to do so...

 

[jncuse]

Only at 400 posts after an hour?

Disappointed -- was expecting over a thousand.

 

[dasher]

JB can coach up the defense when it matters.

The regular season is just going to suck now. We aren’t going to be more than mediocre.

JB can coach.

I just want to be off the bubble by February and playing for seed that won’t happen now.

We don't know that. the doom and gloom without knowing our roster is just amazing. Or what we look like next fall. We might not be very good. We might be very good. Let's wait to see how this all plays out before we drink the poison.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I’m starting to think we lost Dior because JB said he would have to play behind Joe.

 

[Scott11]

please don't believe everything you here. I know everyone is panicking but this is the way it is working this year. You tell the kid he has to work and win the competition which I assume is what coach said. if Kadary wanted a promise and a guaranteed amount of minutes without working then hit the road. he won't get those minutes at kentucky or FSU but will get them somewhere. We'll be fine and not the type of kid we need if he has to have a guarantee

Cuse!

This is JB apologizing 101. I'm not here for it today.

 

[two3zone]

Doesn’t know the zone

Can’t shoot either. No spacing

 

[Jeremy L.]

So apparently Kadary was told he’s not starting next year

JB has played favorites for years. This isn't surprising

 

[djcon57]

I think we have one guard with over 30 minutes a game. the right guard can move Joe out of the starting line up. And they are in the portal. The question is will we go hard after that person.

lol.
you can’t believe this.
Even if we bring in a guy...I can see it already

”joe has experience. coach boeheim wants to win every game, He can’t play someone who doesn’t know the zone early in the year. Spacing.”

 

[Eagles20]

Everyone happy we preserved Girard's "confidence" now? I don't blame Kadary one bit. Our head coach needs to step down ASAP. If Wildhack can't see it then nobody will. Another year of zone-training transfer portal dudes from scratch. Why would another stud guard come in here after he sees what JB did with a stellar point guard like Kadary lol?

Many universities are going to be looking for new head coaches then. If players leaving is the determining factor this offseason then alot of turn over in the basketball coaching world is going to happen.

 

[FrancoPizza]

If Kadary couldn’t move Joe out...

Exactly. Nobody is coming here to sit behind this sh!tshow.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think we have one guard with over 30 minutes a game. the right guard can move Joe out of the starting line up. And they are in the portal. The question is will we go hard after that person.

But here's the problem...

Assume people believe it's true that Boeheim told a highly productive player currently on the roster that he should focus on the Dion backup role because Joe Girard is slated to start.

How can people possibly believe, even a little bit, that Boeheim can have an honest conversation about an incoming transfer, with no experience or equity in the program, about their path to starting.

It's not happening.

 

[CuseCPT]

I get the whole “never make promises to kids” but damn if there ever was a time to do so...

Apparently you can make promises to some kids, but not others.

 

[SUOrangeSU]

I’m starting to think we lost Dior because JB said he would have to play behind Joe.

naaaa Jimmy was giving Dior the keys when he came in. Dior was a headcase x39543859483 and unless a miracle, wont be able to get into syracuse from HS

 

[NKR1978]

Why would any talented kid want to play here? We all saw Richmond is better than Joe. Everyone sees it. A fun Sweet 16 "run" doesn't make up for the pile of garbage we've been fed for the last 5+ seasons.

 

[supp]

FWIW. got the text message this morning on this. Kadary wanted the starting spot and JB wouldn't promise or give it to him. Tried to sell him on the Dion role but Kadary wasn't having it. One of our assistants are EXTREMELY upset, to the point of I wouldn't be surprised they dip this summer if given offered a job. He also has folks close to him saying that every program will be after you (listening to the internet gush over him). We'll see what happens. Sucks

Being an assistant here is an impossible job now. You have to convince a bunch of guys to play for a stagnating program with grandpa as coach and then you have to work your butt off to make sure gramps doesn't chase those same kids off once they get on campus.

 

[elimunelson]

FWIW. got the text message this morning on this. Kadary wanted the starting spot and JB wouldn't promise or give it to him. Tried to sell him on the Dion role but Kadary wasn't having it. One of our assistants are EXTREMELY upset, to the point of I wouldn't be surprised they dip this summer if given offered a job. He also has folks close to him saying that every program will be after you (listening to the internet gush over him). We'll see what happens. Sucks

Wow, Coach wouldn't agree to supplanting the starting PG right after the end of a successful season.

It sounds like the threat of leaving and immediately being able to do so will hurt the guys who are straight shooters (K, Boeheim, et al) vs the guys who will say what their players want to hear.

I mean good luck to Kadary but we've lost better at the same time. I trust we'll reload as we usually do and have a season that many people will complain about. It could be worse, we could have been out of the tournament this year.

 

[Orangezoo]

We don't know that. the doom and gloom without knowing our roster is just amazing. Or what we look like next fall. We might not be very good. We might be very good. Let's wait to see how this all plays out before we drink the poison.

In fairness the latter hasn't been the routine over the past 5 yrs.

 

[dasher]

I get the whole “never make promises to kids” but damn if there ever was a time to do so...

That isn't the point. Okay, I can't guarantee you a starting spot, but I can't guarantee Joe one either. If that isn't what was said, that would be totally unacceptable. I wouldn't work for a company that didn't promote based on merit. Nor would I play for one. the best guys play. Kadary, I guarantee you will get a fair shot at starting. That is the only acceptable answer. and by the way, that should go for every other kid that has transferred out this week.

 

[CuseRunner]

Well, what do you have to say now?

You don't say anything to him until preseason practice starts.

 

[stuckinbig11]

How is this dumb. The coach treated him and Woody like crap. Alan might as well have started shooting at his own basket this tournament run he was that bad. JG3 is a backup at best.

Kadary will start for a peer program next year and go lottery.

Kad still has a lot to learn. As he learned more, he played more. Woody got hit by the pause. JB has more coaching wins than you and me combined.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Florida State’s involved.

ZOMG...cant wait to see Kadry vs JOE matchup...could be a bloodbath.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

We don't know that. the doom and gloom without knowing our roster is just amazing. Or what we look like next fall. We might not be very good. We might be very good. Let's wait to see how this all plays out before we drink the poison.

LOL. Sorry man, but we’re clearly losing our most talented guys. To expect that we replace them with more talented guys is a pipe dream. Talented guards aren’t going to come here to play behind Buddy and Joe.

 

[kjb120]

Alsacs, you know I didn't want to be right on this. Or the others. My worry isn't about the people leaving however. We can get the better end of the deal (I Know fans of Kadary don't believe that) but we can. My worry is that we won't pound the portal as hard as we can. There are great kids in the portal that we should be in contention for. I hope we are working to do something about that.

Not putting you on the spot but what’s better end of the deal here? Is it Joe G becoming more athletic and growing three inches or bringing in Symir Torrence, cause that doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade. Also doesn’t seem like we are reaching out to many in the portal like you said and even if we do what guard will come and want to play behind joe and buddy as so many others have said.