Kaylib Singleton transferring to Mississippi St

[Ttk.gman2]

Who did we bring in that was "as good or better" than Marcellus Barnes?

Samuels was as good, and Peal was as good imo.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Who did we bring in that was "as good or better" than Marcellus Barnes?

We could have kept Barnes if we wanted to. He wanted an assurance on playing time that he was not given. He ended up probably playing the same at SMU too. I still think he'll be a good player but he was a situation where he was told on the depth chart and he didnt want to fight to play more. It happens.

 

[bnoro]

We could have kept Barnes if we wanted to. He wanted an assurance on playing time that he was not given. He ended up probably playing the same at SMU too. I still think he'll be a good player but he was a situation where he was told on the depth chart and he didnt want to fight to play more. It happens.

I'm just saying there's never a guarantee the players we are bringing in will be better and that's a calculated risk. Losing Barnes and now Singleton is a negative for the CB room.

I have no issue with not promising playing time, but we need to keep that depth at the position if possible.

 

[anomander]

We could have kept Barnes if we wanted to. He wanted an assurance on playing time that he was not given. He ended up probably playing the same at SMU too. I still think he'll be a good player but he was a situation where he was told on the depth chart and he didnt want to fight to play more. It happens.

Sounds pretty stupid on his part and have to question those advising him. He was plugged in as a true freshman starter. Sure he got hurt, but what was there to bargain against. Who was he afraid of beating him out. Sounds illogical. Playing athletics through college i can’t believe anyone sitting down with the head coach and say i want a guarantee to start (despite already starting).

 

[richmondcuse03]

I'm just saying there's never a guarantee the players we are bringing in will be better and that's a calculated risk. Losing Barnes and now Singleton is a negative for the CB room.

I have no issue with not promising playing time, but we need to keep that depth at the position if possible.

Oh I agree. It’s just the transfer portal levels out things with depth. I think you’re going to see it be a bigger issue unless guys will take a lot of money to be a number two somewhere. We will never be able to do that sadly. It’ll be interesting to see how it nets out.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

Oh I agree. It’s just the transfer portal levels out things with depth. I think you’re going to see it be a bigger issue unless guys will take a lot of money to be a number two somewhere. We will never be able to do that sadly. It’ll be interesting to see how it nets out.

Genuine question: do you think donors would start putting SEC- or Big Ten–level money into the football program if we make the ACC Championship or even win the ACC? Like, real investment—especially now that the program looks like it’s developing into something bigger than it’s ever been. For example, if next year we only lose one game to Notre Dame and still make the CFP, do you see donors seriously investing in the transfer portal and recruiting after that? Just curious what your take is.

 

[AngryOtto]

Who did we bring in that was "as good or better" than Marcellus Barnes?

Peel

 

[CbusCuse]

We could have kept Barnes if we wanted to. He wanted an assurance on playing time that he was not given. He ended up probably playing the same at SMU too. I still think he'll be a good player but he was a situation where he was told on the depth chart and he didnt want to fight to play more. It happens.

How does guaranteeing a starting spot even work?? is that in writing and via a contract or is it just verbal?

 

[steve deberg]

How does guaranteeing a starting spot even work?? is that in writing and via a contract or is it just verbal?

It’s a verbal.

If you break that verbal, his high school coach, other recruits, and schools recruiting against you hear about it and that broken promise makes it harder to land other recruits.

 

[SU91]

Genuine question: do you think donors would start putting SEC- or Big Ten–level money into the football program if we make the ACC Championship or even win the ACC? Like, real investment—especially now that the program looks like it’s developing into something bigger than it’s ever been. For example, if next year we only lose one game to Notre Dame and still make the CFP, do you see donors seriously investing in the transfer portal and recruiting after that? Just curious what your take is.

No.

 

[Archbold44]

It’s a verbal.

If you break that verbal, his high school coach, other recruits, and schools recruiting against you hear about it and that broken promise makes it harder to land other recruits.

If that is important, we might not want to jerk our QBs around either.

 

[BKCuse]

Whoa. 21 offers including LSU, Mizzou, Florida, Indiana, Miami and Auburn.

Usually when a kid with those offers listed lands at a Toledo then the offers weren’t actually committable.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

No.

Wow disappointing

 

[bnoro]

Wow disappointing

We don't have the number of donors that SEC/B1G schools have. Most people that donate to SU are donating to the school, not the sports programs.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Wow disappointing

Aren’t most SEC large state schools?

 

[PAcuse]

Aren’t most SEC large state schools?

Bingo we can't compete with them and even schools in the ACC like Clemson and SMU
SMU donors could compete with anyone as they count the number of billionares they have.

 

[upperdeck]

The only this gets all fixed is if the players figure out that its not the best for them

For now there is some money being scattered all over. How long before donors at the 2nd level realize they are throwing money away? When 50 schools compete lots of kids get money. When 20 schools compete thats thousands of kids who will start to see the money pool dry up.

How long will a donor give a million a year to fund a team that doesn't win?

unionize and cap spreads the money around even if the top players get hurt a little bit. You have college kids making more than pros in some cases now

 

[JKinUtah]

The only this gets all fixed is if the players figure out that its not the best for them

For now there is some money being scattered all over. How long before donors at the 2nd level realize they are throwing money away? When 50 schools compete lots of kids get money. When 20 schools compete thats thousands of kids who will start to see the money pool dry up.

How long will a donor give a million a year to fund a team that doesn't win?

unionize and cap spreads the money around even if the top players get hurt a little bit. You have college kids making more than pros in some cases now

Players can (and I would argue in most cases should) do what’s best for them and capitalize when they can. Sustainable or not get it while you can. Football has such a short shelf life as a player they need to make short term decisions.

 

[bnoro]

The only this gets all fixed is if the players figure out that its not the best for them

For now there is some money being scattered all over. How long before donors at the 2nd level realize they are throwing money away? When 50 schools compete lots of kids get money. When 20 schools compete thats thousands of kids who will start to see the money pool dry up.

How long will a donor give a million a year to fund a team that doesn't win?

unionize and cap spreads the money around even if the top players get hurt a little bit. You have college kids making more than pros in some cases now

Now that private equity is in it's going to shift real quick. At some point it'll condense into 5 B1G teams and 5 SEC teams that can actually compete, and everyone else just loses to them. The damage will be done and it'll kill the sport.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Mississippi State

 

[sufan59]

Mississippi State

Good for him!

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

He and Gill are the only two I am upset about leaving.

 

[djorange1989]

He and Gill are the only two I am upset about leaving.

Same

 

[richmondcuse03]

He and Gill are the only two I am upset about leaving.

Yup, think that's a fair statement. But a starting spot is locked up for a while so I also don't blame him for taking a shot elsewhere. Probably getting more money too.

 

[CapitalO]

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