Lamson out indefinitely with injury

[sutomcat]

Not sure HIPAA applies here - it only covers health insurance companies, clearing houses, and medical providers, plus their business associates. No expert, but I don't think the training room of the SUAD would be considered a medical provider.

Also, not sure to what degree of privacy Lamson can expect. I can easily go on the website and obtain his height, weight, major, names of his parents, and his high school.

It would seem releasing info about something like a knee injury seems pretty harmless.

But according to this link, HIPPA does apply:

The Impact of the HIPAA Privacy Rule on Collegiate Sport Professionals

Submitted by: Richard Bell, Mesa State College, United States Sports Academy National Faculty, Sarah Elizabeth Ratzlaff, Disney Sports, Steven Ross Murray, Mesa State College Abstract The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) was enacted on August 21, 1996. Its fundamental...

thesportjournal.org

Finally, regarding the sharing of information with the media, this issue is clear-cut. Under HIPAA, personal health information can be provided to sports information staff or the media only with authorization from the athlete (Magee et al., 2003).​

Solutions​

Any sport entity that is covered under HIPAA needs to review its existing practices, policies, and procedures. Relationships with other businesses also will need to be reviewed as they fall under HIPAA guidelines. Utilizing experienced legal counsel to determine status under HIPAA and also to recommend authorization forms, privacy notices, and business-associate contracts is recommended (Kibbe, 2005).

Sorry this happened to Justin just as he was emerging as a possible future star. Best wishes to him for a full and complete recovery.​

 

[SU94]

Does it though? I remain skeptical.

And call me cynical, but I feel SU's no comment is more about Dino's desire for TEAM privacy (that is, keeping injuries secret), not individual privacy.

The two are not mutually exclusive. In many instances, it can be both. In this instance, I bet you're right about Dino and his deasired secrecy and due to that, SU did not approach Lamson and Co. about making sure he is comportable with sharing. Then, when the P-S contacted him and his family, they did not want to rock the apple cart and declined to comment.

I've worked with high-level athletes and 95% chance this was the progression, but if -- hypothetically -- SU/Dino had a deeper foundation of transparency, I severely doubt Lamson and Co. would have had any issue with this news being shared. It is not like an ACL injury is some stigma or anything remotely similar.

 

[Cusefan69]

Sorry to hear about Lamson, next man up though. I am in the camp that Jacobian could handle our first team offense just fine if needed. The good news here is that our starting QB was not injured.

 

[upperdeck]

ok.. here is HIPAA

A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to use and disclose protected health information, without an individual’s authorization, for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities

SO.. the school could actually disclose stuff if they want..

 

[rrlbees]

HIPPA or FERPA (probably ferpa) I know for a fact SU can’t release any student info, medical or otherwise, without their permission .

 

[rrlbees]

ok.. here is HIPAA

A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to use and disclose protected health information, without an individual’s authorization, for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities

SO.. the school could actually disclose stuff if they want..

Trust me, they can’t.

 

[upperdeck]

Trust me, they can’t.

my people say they can. I also get that I would rather they didnt. We dont really need to know full details. But also when you become a public figure many of the privacy rules protections go away.

 

[SuFTW]

ok.. here is HIPAA

A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to use and disclose protected health information, without an individual’s authorization, for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities

SO.. the school could actually disclose stuff if they want..

Public interest? LOL.

Public interest does not equal public curiosity.

 

[upperdeck]

Public interest? LOL.

Public interest does not equal public curiosity.

its already out there now that players are taking money to rep businesses and gambling is being done there is a vested public interest in knowing what injuries are.. and if you are gonna pay a player to represent you with NIL then an expectation to know what injuries would cause his value to go down for you.

much like pro teams have to have a real injury list and expose the extent "mostly" on what the inury and the time of the recovery.. we dont really need to know that but gambling sure does.

 

[chugg21]

Losing the year is going to make it easier for Sellers to jump him.

Debatable. He's going to miss out on summer practice reps but was still not going to play meaningful snaps unless Schrader went down. The mental reps in the new system are still going to be valuable.

If Sellers is able to jump him with 2 years in the program then we'll be looking at something fairly special.

 

[McNabb2Brominski]

Horrible start to the season. Gonna have to deal with shaky QB depth, once again.

 

[AngryOtto]

The "indefinitely" aspect is curious. Even an ACL tear would have a prognosis for a recovery date.

I was wondering the same thing. Was the indefinitely comment from the university or another source? Unless it was career ending it’s not indefinitely. Other than speculation does anyone have specifics of the injury?
Hope he gets better soon.
Could use this rehab time to spend a lot of time in the film room and work on mental aspects of the game. Also if it’s a leg injury he may be able to be back throwing in a shorter period of time. I know he has to plant to throw but as long as he is not scrambling or running could work on mechanics after a shorter rehab.

 

[SuFTW]

its already out there now that players are taking money to rep businesses and gambling is being done there is a vested public interest in knowing what injuries are.. and if you are gonna pay a player to represent you with NIL then an expectation to know what injuries would cause his value to go down for you.

much like pro teams have to have a real injury list and expose the extent "mostly" on what the inury and the time of the recovery.. we dont really need to know that but gambling sure does.

That’s all too bad for those parties and as far as NIL goes that would be directly between Lamson and the NIL payer.

 

[orange79]

What's to stop a reporter from calling him directly for information?

Nothing. And if he chooses to answer and make it public, that's a far cry from the school releasing the info.

 

[rrlbees]

my people say they can. I also get that I would rather they didnt. We dont really need to know full details. But also when you become a public figure many of the privacy rules protections go away.

Your people are wrong.

 

[upperdeck]

Your people are wrong.

maybe, but i kinda doubt it.

 

[rrlbees]

maybe, but i kinda doubt it.

My people are SU.

 

[upperdeck]

My people are SU.

I know.. But had that same conversation with some of them up there as well.. but also a few other D1 schools and D3 people I know. I think some are erroring on the side of caution. And i think they should be pro kid more than pro fan in this.

 

[OrangeAl]

My people are SU.

Rosie Bowie says SU sometimes makes mistakes.

 

[Cuse'91]

Rosie Bowie says SU sometimes makes mistakes.

Ditto, for the apostrophe.

 

[GoSU96]

all this angst about information release rules and details and when it cam out

who cares, the kid had an injury and surgery and won’t be back anytime soon. What more do we need to know?

and if he HAD to play this year, the season would be screwed anyways

 

[OrangeAl]

all this angst about information release rules and details and when it cam out

who cares, the kid had an injury and surgery and won’t be back anytime soon. What more do we need to know?

and if he HAD to play this year, the season would be screwed anyways

The article says he's getting physical therapy before coming back for summer classes. Maybe it was a partial tear and there is no surgery.

 

[AZOrange]

I have it on good authority his human knee was fully removed and replaced with potatoes

 

[Cuse'91]

Heard a rumor a couple of weeks ago that he sustained an injury at the IPF and is not the first athlete injured due to poor turf. Not sure if this rumor is true but just sharing an email that I received.

Curious to know if Josh Hough was no contact on the IPF turf as well.

 

[AZOrange]

Nothing. And if he chooses to answer and make it public, that's a far cry from the school releasing the info.

Schools can absolutely release the private health info of their student athletes. If they want to fully violate federal law and be liable for millions in damages.