Lane Kiffin: "Free agency has been created in College Football"

[Scooch]

Personally, I don't like strong, centralized leadership. I prefer localized leadership. That's just me, though.

Well, sports isn't government. The NFL didn't become a global sports powerhouse because of localized leadership. Just the opposite, in fact.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

who’s “they” in the first sentence and who can mandate this?

Whomever. The NCAA, the P5. The NCAA used to mandate it. Why can't they again?

 

[Chip]

I also don't see how this is a mess. You have adults, young though they may be, making decisions on what they believe is best for themselves. I'm all for that.

Yeah, I think I'm coming around to this. They have enough information to make a decision. If it works out for them, great. If it doesn't, I'm not going to feel bad.

As far as the changes to the sport, it's inevitable. You can't have a sport that generates as much money as this one does, in a landscape where the players weren't really compensated or allowed freedom to move around. So now they are.

We can either watch the sport that remains, or find another way to spend our Saturdays. As for the schools, they just need to figure out how to best adapt. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

 

[Cusefan78]

They need to let the top schools break away and leave the rest of them to get back to having student athletes. We don’t have a single player on our team minus tucker that should be paid. let the paid players fight it out with the Clemson and Alabamas and we can get back to fielding players that want to be here for an education with a small
Chance of improving enough to get drafted. I’m so over players leaving, college football and basketball has been ruined by all the woke fans demanding they get a pay check. This has swung so far the opposite direction it’s laughable.

 

[djcon57]

Whomever. The NCAA, the P5. The NCAA used to mandate it. Why can't they again?

you must have missed the Supreme Court discussion and the general conversation within congress. The NIL rules and transfer rule changes were offered because the NCAA was going to lose any grasp whatsoever. Taking that way would put them back in that position. it’s not an option.

 

[CousCuse]

Yeah, I think I'm coming around to this. They have enough information to make a decision. If it works out for them, great. If it doesn't, I'm not going to feel bad.

As far as the changes to the sport, it's inevitable. You can't have a sport that generates as much money as this one does, in a landscape where the players weren't really compensated or allowed freedom to move around. So now they are.

We can either watch the sport that remains, or find another way to spend our Saturdays. As for the schools, they just need to figure out how to best adapt. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

You are right again Chip. If the Tampa Bay Rays can compete in the MLB, the the Syracuse Orange should be able to compete in the FBS. Use analytics and moneyball the system, nope that's not prudent.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

you must have missed the Supreme Court discussion and the general conversation within congress. The NIL rules and transfer rule changes were offered because the NCAA was going to lose any grasp whatsoever. Taking that way would put them back in that position. it’s not an option.

NIL is different than transfer requirements. I hadn't seen anything outside of falling to media pressure.

 

[djcon57]

NIL is different than transfer requirements. I hadn't seen anything outside of falling to media pressure.

Justice Department warns NCAA over transfer and name, image, likeness rules

The Justice Department sent a letter to the NCAA on Friday expressing concerns about the association’s direction on rules impacting athletes.

www.usatoday.com

 

[texascpa]

That's not a system that works for college athletics if there is to be any "semblance" of fair competition.

Hey, I didn't say it was, I was just giving my opinion.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Justice Department warns NCAA over transfer and name, image, likeness rules

The Justice Department sent a letter to the NCAA on Friday expressing concerns about the association’s direction on rules impacting athletes.

www.usatoday.com

At this point the 2 year rule IMO wouldn't bring the Gov into action. NIL was the bigger issue. The 4 year was deemed unreasonable. A 2 year would be a court battle for no reason. It would be a contract between athlete and school. There is no way the court would rule in against the NCAA.

 

[djcon57]

At this point the 2 year rule IMO wouldn't bring the Gov into action. NIL was the bigger issue. The 4 year was deemed unreasonable. A 2 year would be a court battle for no reason. It would be a contract between athlete and school. There is no way the court would rule in against the NCAA.

There’s plenty way the court would rule against the ncaa. If the ncaa thought it had leverage, they wouldn’t have buckled.

 

[rocklloyd]

I’m about done with college football and basketball. Which is a shame because they were far and away my favorite sports to follow. The direction both sports have taken the last 5 to 10 years coupled with SU’s inability to compete have just soured me.

Right there with you. I used to have basketball and football schedules etched into my brain. Now I have no idea when next basketball game is and rarely know who week to week football opponent is until I get on this board. I just don’t care like I used to.

 

[FloridaFan]

Right there with you. I used to have basketball and football schedules etched into my brain. Now I have no idea when next basketball game is and rarely know who week to week football opponent is until I get on this board. I just don’t care like I used to.

That sounds like a personal issue. Sorry you don’t care about football because kids can be paid and don’t have to sit out a year

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I know a lot of you hate this but it's actually better and the right thing, and we don't need to make up rules for how it "should" be.

 

[djcon57]

I know a lot of you hate this but it's actually better and the right thing, and we don't need to make up rules for how it "should" be.

I think my feeling is this..I understand a lot of fans’ opinions on this because let’s face it, as a fan..specifically a fan of Syracuse, it’s not as fun.

however...like we see consistently on the bball board where people pontificate about “why doesnt the ncaa just make the players stay two years”, I don’t think some folks truly understand the whole picture and why things are being done.

frankly, they sound like Kramer explaining write offs.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

One other thing that I think gets forgotten...

The rule that allows a player to get in 4 games and still redshirt potentially looms large.

Football transfers used to be very rare. I believe that's because programs could somewhat hide players if they didn't see the field much. What coach wants to take the risk of bringing in a transfer player that hasn't had any film over 2-3 seasons? Much better to recruit highschool players that you've seen recently and that you feel confident in how you project their development.

But see, now... coaches get a chance to have just a little film on a guy because chances are good they got 4 games in somewhere, at some point.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think my feeling is this..I understand a lot of fans’ opinions on this because let’s face it, as a fan..specifically of a fan of Syracuse, it’s not as fun.

however...like we see consistently on the bball board where people pontificate about “why doesnt the ncaa just make the players stay two years”, I don’t think some folks truly understand the whole picture and why things are being done.

frankly, they sound like Kramer explaining write offs.

Yeah, to me, there are bigger issues at play than if these things are good or bad for any one program, ie, their fans and what they want.

 

[Bayside44]

Why should football and basketball be required to have restrictions on transfers when no other sport does (actually there are two others, but I don't recall which they are)? Academic students aren't required to "sit out a year" or have their transferability restricted. Why do we treat athletes differently?

Money. The usual answer to everything.

 

[Ozone!]

Once again, The NCAA has proven to be feckless and unless this is changed for the better it will ruin college football.

 

[Scooch]

Yeah, I think I'm coming around to this. They have enough information to make a decision. If it works out for them, great. If it doesn't, I'm not going to feel bad.

As far as the changes to the sport, it's inevitable. You can't have a sport that generates as much money as this one does, in a landscape where the players weren't really compensated or allowed freedom to move around. So now they are.

We can either watch the sport that remains, or find another way to spend our Saturdays. As for the schools, they just need to figure out how to best adapt. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

I’m with you. I do think that there will be some tweaks to mitigate the most chaotic elements of this. Maybe a quiet period for a couple in-season months, or something like that.

Or not. This seems to be a particularly bad year for SU on the portal front. If next year we have all of 4 kids leave or something, no one here will care as much.

 

[MikeSU02]

I’m fine with it.

We’re not good right now. Old rules, current rules, new rules, make believe rules, whatever.

Let the kids go where they want. It’s never been some bastion of purity. Also hilarious coming from Lane.

 

[rocklloyd]

That sounds like a personal issue. Sorry you don’t care about football because kids can be paid and don’t have to sit out a year

It’s clearly a personal issue, I would not expect others to share same feelings. However, paying kids and transfer rules are not the reason for my apathy.

 

[TheCusian]

It all depends on one's perspective, of course. I'm 100% for empowering athletes. At the same time, this is no way to run a railroad, as they say. We can't accept that college football and hoops are businesses, and then punt on enacting any semblance of rules that make the product entertaining to the consumer.

This kind of chaos is precisely what happens when a sport lacks strong, centralized leadership. The NCAA has been defanged and essentially given up on administering college sports. The conferences aren't wired to cooperate in any meaningful way. So this is what we get... a mess.

I agree with all of this. I don’t think that player movement is the problem as much as the whole thing being a rudderless under-empowered enterprise.

Chaos is a good description. Done right, player empowerment, lax transfer rules and NIL could strengthen CFB.

 

[BrooklynCuse]

Maryland Illinois north western and Rutgers all spend a ton of money on sports teams and their football programs

I was referring to blue states where politicians probably wouldn’t get involved. No way people in Jersey care about college sports as much as the south

 

[TheCusian]

Personally, I don't like strong, centralized leadership. I prefer localized leadership. That's just me, though.

Localized leadership works fine for regional things. CFB is a national sport. Some areas playing by different rules is how the beast got too big for its chains.