Lane Kiffin: "Free agency has been created in College Football"

[sufandu]

The schools and kids should commit to an associates degree. Then they should commit to a bachelors degree. Then they should agree to a masters degree. If you have the associates you are free to transfer. If you have the bachelors you are free to transfer. Otherwise you need to sit out a year or go FCS. This is all about academics after all.

Wouldn't the institutions have to then offer associates degrees? I don't think most do and wouldn't change that just for football.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Wouldn't the institutions have to then offer associates degrees? I don't think most do and wouldn't change that just for football.

But my man, you see, how institutions of higher learning are structured doesn't matter.

Think about the fans, man. The fans.

 

[elimunelson]

I’d probably add New Jersey to that list. Maryland, Illinois? Talking college sports

Add New York too

 

[OburgOrange]

 

[Bayside44]

I was referring to blue states where politicians probably wouldn’t get involved. No way people in Jersey care about college sports as much as the south

Politicians care about the flagship Universities, and even if they don't someone close to them will get hired that will make them care. Really has nothing to do with party affiliation.

 

[Bayside44]

Coaches have careers. It's not the same thing.

 

[Admiral Koga]

I think that this is starting to sort itself out. There is a group of schools (cough cough SEC, cough cough Texas schools) that loved to flaunt the rules because they liked to get away with things that others didn't/couldn't/wouldn't. Now, with 'no rules', players can leave or everybody can pay...I think that they are starting to realize that it isn't any fun for THEM anymore. Is the irony that Lane Kiffin, of all people, is the one bemoaning the situation not lost on anyone?

The Bamas and Georgias are always going to have advantages that the Syracuses and BCs and Pitts don't. But I think that is was no coincidence that the most 'wide-open' season in college football occurred right after the transfer portal was flung open. I think that once coaches assign the 'assistant recruiting coordinator 3rd class with oak leaves' to evaluate the portal the same way they evaluate the high schools, things will even out even more.

One more thing...regarding the NIL. The QB that enrolled early at Ahia St...that got paid and is now transferring to TX to get paid again...despite not taking a single snap yet. This kid is likely over 2 mil to the good and may never even play. It's a new system and maybe it's the novelty of it...but if millionaires keep flushing that kind of money down the toilet, they won't be millionaires very much longer.

 

[TheCusian]

Coaches have careers. It's not the same thing.

That’s what’s shifting. Players see their pro-careers starting immediately after HS. NIL has changed things.

 

[Bayside44]

That’s what’s shifting. Players see their pro-careers starting immediately after HS. NIL has changed things.

It'll sort itself out, but reality is a cold bucket of water.

 

[elimunelson]

Politicians care about the flagship Universities, and even if they don't someone close to them will get hired that will make them care. Really has nothing to do with party affiliation.

Sure but the blue states aren’t going to push for legislation in a sport their constituents don’t care about. Red states will care if the system becomes untenable because their constituents will care.

New England, NY, NJ won’t be pushing for this at all but the poorer red states w big football factories who start to lose because financing is tough to come by.

It’s going to be legislated question is when not if.

 

[Bayside44]

Sure but the blue states aren’t going to push for legislation in a sport their constituents don’t care about. Red states will care if the system becomes untenable because their constituents will care.

New England, NY, NJ won’t be pushing for this at all but the poorer red states w big football factories who start to lose because financing is tough to come by.

It’s going to be legislated question is when not if.

Carolyn Maloney from the East Side of Manhattan is getting her committee mixed up with the WFT, NFL, Dan Snyder thing...so who knows...

 

[PhatOrange]

I was referring to blue states where politicians probably wouldn’t get involved. No way people in Jersey care about college sports as much as the south

Michigan and Pennsylvania I bet care, as would California, Oregon and Washington.

 

[NKR1978]

 

[BrooklynCuse]

Michigan and Pennsylvania I bet care, as would California, Oregon and Washington.

I’m willing to bet MI and Penn do care, that’s why I didn’t mention them. Ohio too, Bayside mentioned it’s not party affiliation as much as flagship school for pols which I agree

But the south in general is more football crazy in every aspect. Herschel Walker will probably be his parties nominee and Georgians won’t think twice. It’s like NY or NJ having Ray Rice or Jeremy Shockey running for US Senate. No way that happens here. I have friends from Georgia who aren’t even football fans but they go to and watch the games because it’s the thing to do.

 

[CousCuse]

Bottom line is that the ACC has to address the revenue disparity with the Big 2. The only thing that the new commissioner has done is put the ACC in an alliance with the B1G which has helped them.

 

[UnknownOrange]

Good!

 

[PhatOrange]

I’m willing to bet MI and Penn do care, that’s why I didn’t mention them. Ohio too, Bayside mentioned it’s not party affiliation as much as flagship school for pols which I agree

But the south in general is more football crazy in every aspect. Herschel Walker will probably be his parties nominee and Georgians won’t think twice. It’s like NY or NJ having Ray Rice or Jeremy Shockey running for US Senate. No way that happens here. I have friends from Georgia who aren’t even football fans but they go to and watch the games because it’s the thing to do.

i agree 100% but as I said originally, I think they only states where pols wouldn't care are New York and Mass. Then again, they like to have their hands in everything so they probably would get involved. Which way they'd lean - athlete or institution - is anyone's guess.

 

[TheCusian]

Bottom line is that the ACC has to address the revenue disparity with the Big 2. The only thing that the new commissioner has done is put the ACC in an alliance with the B1G which has helped them.

That and get the Comcast deal done. If they don’t form a kind of firewall alliance with the other P5, we probably just rubber stamp our demise with SEC/ESPN.

 

[CousCuse]

That and get the Comcast deal done. If they don’t form a kind of firewall alliance with the other P5, we probably just rubber stamp our demise with SEC/ESPN.

The B1G is on par with the SEC in revenue. The ACC, Big12 and the Pac12 are all down 40-50 million. Those conferences can't compete with that amount of difference. Those are the three conferences that should have an alliance, but the B1G and the Pac are joined at the hip.

 

[TheCusian]

The B1G is on par with the SEC in revenue. The ACC, Big12 and the Pac12 are all down 40-50 million. Those conferences can't compete with that amount of difference. Those are the three conferences that should have an alliance, but the B1G and the Pac are joined at the hip.

You're misrepresenting the problem. It's not 100% revenue. It's power + revenue. The SEC tried to outflank everyone for more power and money and trying to get exactly what they want. It's important for the rest of the sport to hold them accountable.

 

[CousCuse]

You're misrepresenting the problem. It's not 100% revenue. It's power + revenue. The SEC tried to outflank everyone for more power and money and trying to get exactly what they want. It's important for the rest of the sport to hold them accountable.

Yup, the B1G has never been about power and money, they have been worse than the SEC. I don't know how the ACC got sucked into their vortex, but it won't be of any benefit to the ACC. It will end with the B1G taking apart the ACC.

 

[TheCusian]

Yup, the B1G has never been about power and money, they have been worse than the SEC. I don't know how the ACC got sucked into their vortex, but it won't be of any benefit to the ACC. It will end with the B1G taking apart the ACC.

You move goal posts more than anyone I know.

The choice was to do nothing, which would have been tacit support for ESPN/SEC or to join with the B1G/P12/FOX and send a message. You'll note that the alliance doesn't have any formal paperwork - ie the vortex sucking you warn of is not of the legal variety.

Simmer down. It was about saber rattling and was needed. The ACC is fine.

 

[CousCuse]

You move goal posts more than anyone I know.

The choice was to do nothing, which would have been tacit support for ESPN/SEC or to join with the B1G/P12/FOX and send a message. You'll note that the alliance doesn't have any formal paperwork - ie the vortex sucking you warn of is not of the legal variety.

Simmer down. It was about saber rattling and was needed. The ACC is fine.

The ACC is not fine. There are programs in the ACC calculating if it;s worth challenging the GOR right now. Or buying out of it to get to the top level and secure their future.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

The ACC is not fine. There are programs in the ACC calculating if it;s worth challenging the GOR right now. Or buying out of it to get to the top level and secure their future.

Where exactly would they go? Is the SEC going to 18? 20?

 

[CousCuse]

Where exactly would they go? Is the SEC going to 18? 20?

SEC and B1G will take them and that's the end of the P5. Then it's just the super P2 and they get all the revenue.