I'd rather win anything than lose. No such thing as a moral victory.
Rutgers hasn't built anything. I'd rather lose the orange bowl than win the Texas bowl. And you're both nutsorangeinjersey said:Agreed, I watched Rutgiz build a program by winning Bowls that arent even around anymore with three win conference seasons. Winning Pinstripe, Texas, Russel, Belk, means sustained progress. Baby steps folks, baby steps. If we played PSU next week, we win. If we played NorthWestern, we probably win as well. It took some time for this team to gel and find its identity. I am very much looking forward to next year.
I get what you are saying but we are 0-3 in the Orange Bowl with a composite score of 22-113. (Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida) I feel good about this years team ending on a winning note despite only having a 6-6 regular season. Much better than in 2004 with that 6-6 team's result playing in the Champ Sports Bowl. Baby steps.Rutgers hasn't built anything. I'd rather lose the orange bowl than win the Texas bowl. And you're both nuts
I believe that you would have much rather watch those teams play than this one. Don't get me wrong I am proud of this team and the job they did but don't forget they got drilled three times during the season. I don't know anything about the team that got drilled by Alabama in the Orange Bowl, but the other two teams were pretty damn good. I only wish that we could return to the greatness of the late 50's and early 60's teams or the teams during the Donovan era.I get what you are saying but we are 0-3 in the Orange Bowl with a composite score of 22-113. (Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida) I feel good about this years team ending on a winning note despite only having a 6-6 regular season. Much better than in 2004 with that 6-6 team's result playing in the Champ Sports Bowl. Baby steps.
Mill house is 100% right. Better to lose good bowl games than win minor league ones
I agree about the return to greatness. I was just saying from the perspective of the end of Paul through the GRob years I'll take a Texas Bowl win. Why I said baby steps. Sorry if I misled.I believe that you would have much rather watch those teams play than this one. Don't get me wrong I am proud of this team and the job they did but don't forget they got drilled three times during the season. I don't know anything about the team that got drilled by Alabama in the Orange Bowl, but the other two teams were pretty damn good. I only wish that we could return to the greatness of the late 50's and early 60's teams or the teams during the Donovan era.
Why does every thread have to be so dumb. I was making sure no one thought I was criticizing p for losing orange and fiesta bowls with mcnabb.dollarbill44 said:Duh. But we only got invited to the Texas Bowl. It's better to win the Texas Bowl than lose it.
Rutgers hasn't built anything. I'd rather lose the orange bowl than win the Texas bowl. And you're both nuts
Just a Reminder Mnnesota beat Northwestern,Nebraska,Indiana, and Penn StateI'd rather lose better bowls , don't get me wrong. I think it is interesting but not that meaningful
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We are where we are - considering that not that long ago we were one of the worst programs in college and ESPN did a game day piece on the decline of Syracuse football, AND most casual fans STILL think Syracuse is a lousy football program - being able to tell recruits and having it come up in broadcasts next years that we've won bowls 3 out of the last 4 years is a good thing, with the potential to be a great thing.
I know I've said this before, but I had coworkers that went to Penn State; they thought Syracuse was around 4-8 last year when we were talking about the MetLife game in August. These were the same guys that I talked about going to NYC to go to the Pinstripe Bowl eight months earlier, and congratulated me on the win vs WVU.
People are generally lazy and ignorant - the paradigm that exists in most college football fans heads is that Syracuse football is awful. We need lots and lots of aggregated data AND a big head turning win to get the average fan to pull his head out of his fanny and realize its not 2005. That's the value of 3 wins in 4 years, it's something for the announcers to mention when we're pulling off a win that allows us to start to change the paradigm.
baylor won their conference. it wasn't their friendly schedule.Spot on!
What Cuse needs is a friendly schedule next year to allow us to rip off 6 or 7 wins out the gate to turn some heads. We need a 9-3 or 10-2 regular season and some pimping from ESPN to help perception. Look at Baylor.
What we want is for these minor bowl wins to be part of SU building back to playing more regularly in major bowls. There's zero guarantee of that though, and we could very well just be settling into a stretch where we're regularly playing in minor bowls (because everyone gets a trophy in today's FBS).
SU needs a true breakout year to fully shake our current perception of being mediocre (at best). And not a 2001 year where we win 10 but fail in all of our most visible games. We need a 9/10 win season where we beat someone really good in front of a national audience.
I get what you are saying but we are 0-3 in the Orange Bowl with a composite score of 22-113. (Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida) I feel good about this years team ending on a winning note despite only having a 6-6 regular season. Much better than in 2004 with that 6-6 team's result playing in the Champ Sports Bowl. Baby steps.
We are where we are - considering that not that long ago we were one of the worst programs in college and ESPN did a game day piece on the decline of Syracuse football, AND most casual fans STILL think Syracuse is a lousy football program - being able to tell recruits and having it come up in broadcasts next years that we've won bowls 3 out of the last 4 years is a good thing, with the potential to be a great thing.
I know I've said this before, but I had coworkers that went to Penn State; they thought Syracuse was around 4-8 last year when we were talking about the MetLife game in August. These were the same guys that I talked about going to NYC to go to the Pinstripe Bowl eight months earlier, and congratulated me on the win vs WVU.
People are generally lazy and ignorant - the paradigm that exists in most college football fans heads is that Syracuse football is awful. We need lots and lots of aggregated data AND a big head turning win to get the average fan to pull his head out of his fanny and realize its not 2005. That's the value of 3 wins in 4 years, it's something for the announcers to mention when we're pulling off a win that allows us to start to change the paradigm.
cuts both ways with national perception. i think we overestimate how much anyone even remembers 2005-2008. it felt horrible for us but it's really just a tiny blip. our perception is fine. we sucked for a while and now we're ok againYou would think absolutely pummeling highly regarded West Virginia and Louisville teams on TV 2 years in a row, plus the bowl wins would have done something for perception. Anyone who was watching those WVU and LVille blowouts...it's not like we lucked our way to upset wins. We looked great and beat the crap out of both of them in exciting, fun to watch, fashion.