LeQuint Allen is Back

[kcsu]

It was 18 when I was there.

Ok seriously not one fight in 5 years.

 

[dasher]

Just parenthetically I was in Maggie’s with friends when a massive brawl broke out among the football players. It was somewhere between 1983 and 1986. We felt like we were in one of those old Colt 45 commercials because this incredible fight was all around us and we didn’t even spill our drinks. It flashed over from the bar onto Marshall Street. When Syracuse PD got there they just waited for it to lose steam. One bouncer was obliterated so it wasn’t all “in the family”. No newspapers, no reporting, no discipline.

Well, let's not act like that was the proper way to handle it either. Actions have Consequences.

 

[Dave]

Well, let's not act like that was the proper way to handle it either. Actions have Consequences.

I expressed zero judgment on that. I commented on an event I recalled, and some incidents of its aftermath. Actions often have consequences. Sometimes they don’t.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Just curious, are you an engineer?

More likely one of those tree-hugging, granola eatin' School of Forestry types- they were always super nerdy.

 

[AAM62]

I never saw a fight in my 5 years at SU. Different times I guess.

I saw like 5 fights the first month

 

[BKCuse]

Sounds like he got no punishment because he was no longer a student when he raised the complaint in February. Apparently finished his studies in the fall semester. I am assuming grad school since he was 23. Even more bizarre and evidence that his entire motivation was vindictive.

Ahh Idk he had graduated.
What’s the evidence his motivation was vindictive?

 

[atlanticuse]

I've lost confidence in Syverud, and doubt his willingness to do the right thing in this situation.

I said this in an old BB thread and got creamed.
I’m not saying he’s all bad, but he’s done nothing to improve my perception of SU.

 

[Consigliere]

It’s also insane because while I know the student code of conduct applies to them at all times….

This fight wasn’t even on campus….with a grad student…who was no longer a student…who didn’t show up to the hearing…

This whole situation is actually bizzarro

Thinking he was a student at the end of fall semester when the fight occurred but not in the spring semester when the OCS became involved.

 

[Consigliere]

Ahh Idk he had graduated.
What’s the evidence his motivation was vindictive?

My thought process is he went to the police first and since the resolution there wasn’t of his liking he raised the complaint to OCS to attempt to achieve a more severe punishment. That’s what the timeline suggests.

 

[Consigliere]

Someone asked in another thread about NIL for LeQuint. I posted this there but thought I would repeat here for visibility:

Just checked. LeQuint is still on the INFLCR app. Anyone can request access and, once granted, propose a transaction.
Offer him $100 to sign a football. Or get your friends together and pool your money for something more substantial.

Register here.

INFLCR Exchange​

INFLCR Exchange

dash.inflcr.com

It goes through SU Compliance so if there are issues contact Mark Wheeler, mwheel01 @ syr.edu

I would recommend you put in your description that you are a fan, or fan group looking to support student athletes at Syracuse and don’t specify Allen.

Hey, then you could even raise more money by raffling the football off and donating the proceeds to the SyraCRUZ Tailgate collective to help other student athletes directly

 

[cliftonparksufan]

My thought process is he went to the police first and since the resolution there wasn’t of his liking he raised the complaint to OCS to attempt to achieve a more severe punishment. That’s what the timeline suggests.

I'm very surprised that this person's name hasn't been leaked on social media yet as well as videos of the fight. After all, this is 2023. If, and when, it does, some people might be brutal towards him.

 

[Consigliere]

I'm very surprised that this person's name hasn't been leaked on social media yet as well as videos of the fight. After all, this is 2023. If, and when, it does, some people might be brutal towards him.

Well he is a “crime victim” and we are so protective of victim’s rights. Doubt the media would ever divulge

 

[Consigliere]

Well he is a “crime victim” and we are so protective of victim’s rights. Doubt the media would ever divulge

Sorry, forgot the sarcasm font

 

[hoopsupstate]

Ok seriously not one fight in 5 years.

I never saw a fight during my four years and I went out after dark.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Well he is a “crime victim” and we are so protective of victim’s rights. Doubt the media would ever divulge

Legitimate media might still follow those rules, but like I said, it's 2023. How many stories get released on Twitter, or wherever, where the facts are incorrect.

Don't many "media" members now believe "it's better to be first then it's better to be correct ".

 

[jgeorge322]

I'm very surprised that this person's name hasn't been leaked on social media yet as well as videos of the fight. After all, this is 2023. If, and when, it does, some people might be brutal towards him.

There is video of the fight?

 

[FrancoPizza]

I never saw a fight during my four years and I went out after dark.

Yeah I bet you went out to dinner and we’re home by 9:00. ;-)

 

[UpstateSM]

This thread needs to get interesting today because I don’t want to do any work at work

 

[javadoc]

My thought process is he went to the police first and since the resolution there wasn’t of his liking he raised the complaint to OCS to attempt to achieve a more severe punishment. That’s what the timeline suggests.

I have wondered about that. For the lawyers on the board, maybe IthacaMatt , does NYS have anything on the books related to interference with contract or business opportunity?

 

[JustPherU]

That depends significantly on your background . Grow up in a household run like the military and college adds a lot of value even if most isn't technical or acumen. My point in earlier posts is everything comes full circle.

If nobody dropped out of 8th grade who would hire all the college graduates.

 

[Ozone!]

Some people just won’t believe the truth when they are faced with it!

 

[ThundrTroll]

I'm very surprised that this person's name hasn't been leaked on social media yet as well as videos of the fight. After all, this is 2023. If, and when, it does, some people might be brutal towards him.

It was alleged to DPS by the other student and the girl Duce allegedly pushed that a member of the football team posted a video of the assault on Snapchat but later deleted it.

There was one place in the eFiled court documents where the other student's last name was not redacted. It's a common last name so without a first name you basically have nothing.

 

[ThundrTroll]

My thought process is he went to the police first and since the resolution there wasn’t of his liking he raised the complaint to OCS to attempt to achieve a more severe punishment. That’s what the timeline suggests.

That's a blind spot for me because in LeQuint's e-filed petition:

"31. Upon information and belief, OCS alleged that Doe and John Doe #2 violated the CSC based upon the fact that Doe and John Doe #2 had been charged criminally in connection with the alleged assault of the Complainant."

That makes it seem like it fell into OCS's lap c/o of the Syracuse PD/Onondaga County DA. The other student is referred to as the "Complainant" in the documents so does that mean they made a formal complaint with OCS or just that with the DPS/SPD, which led to the criminal charges? I have no idea if OCS ever spoke or independently met with the other student and instead based their case against LeQuint and Terry on police (DPS and SPD) interviews.

 

[BillSU]

That's a blind spot for me because in LeQuint's e-filed petition:

"31. Upon information and belief, OCS alleged that Doe and John Doe #2 violated the CSC based upon the fact that Doe and John Doe #2 had been charged criminally in connection with the alleged assault of the Complainant."

That makes it seem like it fell into OCS's lap c/o of the Syracuse PD/Onondaga County DA. The other student is referred to as the "Complainant" in the documents so does that mean they made a formal complaint with OCS or just that with the DPS/SPD, which led to the criminal charges? I have no idea if OCS ever spoke or independently met with the other student and instead based their case against LeQuint and Terry on police (DPS and SPD) interviews.

I had a dream last night about one person, the Judge who will be reviewing this case on July 19.

In the dream it was he standing up within his bench looking down at me. Dressed in his black robe, he said, “I am one of many judges engaged in upholding the Constitution and the rule of law and I share a common responsibility with my fellow judges in seeing that justice is carried out in every case.

Today, I am faced with what I believe to be an important ruling. I have reviewed every part of this incident and I find that it is a decision that is a simple one to cast based on all the facts I know to be true. In point of fact, I do not see why this matter could not have been fairly decided by Syracuse University and / or its student disciplinary government.

I do not need witnesses, as the case based upon police reports and other reports I have reviewed, it is very clear to me and I shall rule in this way.

This should not have come before my court as a result of an altercation begun and furthered into a physical incident. However, the defendant chose to use his fists instead of his brain against the plaintiff. Initially the plaintiff was ill prepared to protect himself and suffered several punches to the face. He then defended himself which seems a logical human reaction and that is all it was.

I have heard about this case and the irritability and anger it has caused among students and student athletes at Syracuse University and some of its alumni. We judges are aware of social media but cannot be influenced by them in the making of a ruling in any case. Before this matter goes any further and injures anyone else psychologically, I find for the plaintiff and against the defendant. I rule that this person be a part of the university student body and be allowed to partake in all aspects of his chosen athletic program immediately.

The defendant and a representative of Syracuse University are hereby ordered to meet with me in chambers to deliberate this matter further. For your perusal, I have prepared a brief for you to review before our meeting which among other matters will include a change in the student disciplinary board and the rules of the student handbook henceforth. I will decide on the date in August and you will be so informed.

We are adjourned and the case is final there will be no appeals. Good day.” Gavel.

 

[bnoro]

I had a dream last night about one person, the Judge who will be reviewing this case on July 19.

In the dream it was he standing up within his bench looking down at me. Dressed in his black robe, he said, “I am one of many judges engaged in upholding the Constitution and the rule of law and I share a common responsibility with my fellow judges in seeing that justice is carried out in every case.

Today, I am faced with what I believe to be an important ruling. I have reviewed every part of this incident and I find that it is a decision that is a simple one to cast based on all the facts I know to be true. In point of fact, I do not see why this matter could not have been fairly decided by Syracuse University and / or its student disciplinary government.

I do not need witnesses, as the case based upon police reports and other reports I have reviewed, it is very clear to me and I shall rule in this way.

This should not have come before my court as a result of an altercation begun and furthered into a physical incident. However, the defendant chose to use his fists instead of his brain against the plaintiff. Initially the plaintiff was ill prepared to protect himself and suffered several punches to the face. He then defended himself which seems a logical human reaction and that is all it was.

I have heard about this case and the irritability and anger it has caused among students and student athletes at Syracuse University and some of its alumni. We judges are aware of social media but cannot be influenced by them in the making of a ruling in any case. Before this matter goes any further and injures anyone else psychologically, I find for the plaintiff and against the defendant. I rule that this person be a part of the university student body and be allowed to partake in all aspects of his chosen athletic program immediately.

The defendant and a representative of Syracuse University are hereby ordered to meet with me in chambers to deliberate this matter further. For your perusal, I have prepared a brief for you to review before our meeting which among other matters will include a change in the student disciplinary board and the rules of the student handbook henceforth. I will decide on the date in August and you will be so informed.

We are adjourned and the case is final there will be no appeals. Good day.” Gavel.

You're an interesting character.