Let them score?

[Brooky03]

If you're losing, you let them score in that situation. I would never let a team score in a tie game.

 

[TheCusian]

if you're gonna do it you gotta do it early hoping that the guy wasn't coached. I said I was tempted but Fgs are no sure thing even for blowit

Side note: the fact that he overcame that name to be a kicker is kinda amazing

 

[Brooky03]

the only argument for not letting them score is that there are enough examples out there where we would expect them to take a knee.

the only way it works is if you let them score when you have a good chance of stopping them, at which point it becomes a much riskier decision that most coaches won't take.

letting them score worked when it was a new strategy. i would hope our guys know to take a knee if the situation was reversed.

I think you take the touchdown if you're Pitt. It's risky to give up a surefire 7 point lead with 1:30 left (or whatever it was) for a potentially last second FG.

 

[TheCusian]

pitt might be meatheaded enough to barrel in. it's just much dicier than it used to be. when mumme did it, everyone's brains exploded. lots of arguments about whether he was an idiot

I think once Ollison got moving he'd probably fall into the end zone

 

[Millhouse]

I think you take the touchdown if you're Pitt. It's risky to give up a surefire 7 point lead with 1:30 left (or whatever it was) for a potentially last second FG.

i think the odds of dungey hurdling every pitt player and scoring a quick TD are much higher than the odds of Pitt missing essentially an extra point

 

[Brooky03]

i think the odds of dungey hurdling every pitt player and scoring a quick TD are much higher than the odds of Pitt missing essentially an extra point

Valid point. The odds of Dungey getting a concussion mid hurdle might be even higher though.

 

[SWC75]

I was thinking "Villanova" all the way. But that doesn't happen too often, either.

The first "let 'em score play I remember is Green Bay in SB32 vs. Denver. It didn't work.

 

[Millhouse]

I was thinking "Villanova" all the way. But that doesn't happen too often, either.

The first "let 'em score play I remember is Green Bay in SB32 vs. Denver. It didn't work.

if you're in a spot where you're even thinking about letting them score, no tactic is likely to work

hail marys and kickoff laterals aren't bad ideas just because they're unlikely

 

[elimunelson]

I was thinking "Villanova" all the way. But that doesn't happen too often, either.

The first "let 'em score play I remember is Green Bay in SB32 vs. Denver. It didn't work.

Happened in the Giants/Pats superbowl too.

I went back and forth on that play. Syracuse's best shot there was for a fluke fumble or a bad snap for the FG. I think that had a higher percentage of happening than scoring and then getting the two point conversion.

 

[orangecuse]

Side note: the fact that he overcame that name to be a kicker is kinda amazing

FWIW, his last name is Blewitt, not Blowit. Either way though, I'm sure he has taken quite the ribbing over the years. I myself was saying/hoping right before the game winner, dude, you certainly blew it!

 

[Finwad32]

http://college.usatoday.com/2014/11/12/why-field-goals-are-never-a-sure-thing-in-college-football/

Read the first example.

 

[Jake]

If you're losing, you let them score in that situation. I would never let a team score in a tie game.

I think this is the criteria to use. The casual fans head would explode if you let them score in a tie game.

 

[Millhouse]

I think this is the criteria to use. The casual fans head would explode if you let them score in a tie game.

shafer does lots of things that the casual fan can't stand, why should this be any different?

i don't feel real strongly about this and I'm not down on shafer for trying to stop them.

 

[Finwad32]

shafer does lots of things that the casual fan can't stand, why should this be any different?

i don't feel real strongly about this and I'm not down on shafer for trying to stop them.

If you're in the NFL, I think I may let them score. If I'm in the NCAA, where even short FG's have a significantly less percentage of being made, I'm OK with either decision. It's strategy, if it works you're a hero, if not, you're a goat.

 

[CusefanATL]

Haven't seen this. Apologies if.

Anyone thing we should have let them score with 1:30 left? It was already a chip-shot field goal. Which odds are better? Them missing the FG on the last play or us going the length for a tying touchdown with 1:30 left? Would have had two TOs left, I think.

you are off on the TO's. we used our last 1 on the spot review which they converted a 3rd and 2ish.

So you couldnt let them score before that when if you stopped them on the 3rd down, you get the ball back with 1:30ish only down 3.

and then you have to try to challenge even though it was a very long shot, because that was our only hope.

Then after that, prob best to hope for fumble or missed kick with college kickers - but close argument.

 

[Consigliere]

If you're losing, you let them score in that situation. I would never let a team score in a tie game.

Agree completely. Never when tied or ahead. For those who say let them score, do you do the same if we're up by 2? Same logic, right?

 

[upperdeck]

worst part was the spot was reviewed and still screwed up they didnt even spot it on the right side of the yard line.

 

[Millhouse]

Agree completely. Never when tied ir ahead. For those who say let them score, do you do the same if we're up by 2? Same logic, right?

excellent question. you're right, it is the same logic and no one would dare do it even though they probably should.

 

[upperdeck]

http://college.usatoday.com/2014/11/12/why-field-goals-are-never-a-sure-thing-in-college-football/

Read the first example.

so where are the stats on how many game pressure short FGs have been missed. you lump all kicks together. it was basically an XP how many of those have been missed in the dome?

 

[CusefanATL]

I would have let them score. I wonder if Pitt would have been smart enough not to.

I was thinking the same thing during the game. I could see that call going either way and being criticized either way.

 

[CusefanATL]

so where are the stats on how many game pressure short FGs have been missed. you lump all kicks together. it was basically an XP how many of those have been missed in the dome?

I can think of 1

 

[upperdeck]

its so hard to miss one in the dome even the replay judge cant do it.

 

[Finwad32]

so where are the stats on how many game pressure short FGs have been missed. you lump all kicks together. it was basically an XP how many of those have been missed in the dome?

Not justifying decisions with the article, just adding it for reference. I'm indifferent on the decision.

 

[Millhouse]

Not justifying decisions with the article, just adding it for reference. I'm indifferent on the decision.

i'm totally indifferent but it's really fun to think about. especially consigliere's point. part of me wants SU to pull that stunt and have it work just to piss off Mark May and Trev Alberts

 

[Crusty]

Stuff happens on PAT and FGs. I still have visions fumbling snap and Rutgers blocked PAT. Remember the refs missing the call on our extra point vs Toledo?
Bad snaps, bad holds, shanked kicks, blocks - it is never a forgone conclusion. These decisions are never cut and dried and I can live with either one.