Louisville Postgame

[Lukeyloo]

You know our coach is really bad when people are speaking favorably about Bobby Hurley

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Didn’t watch but glad to see we won the second half!

 

[Cusefan0307]

Patiently await ithacamatt showing up to defend Starlings latest dreadful performance.

 

[Blanko97]

“ Naithan George said Syracuse players took Autry’s toughness challenge to heart. They tried to defend better against Louisville.”

Jfc

 

[djorange1989]

After watching this game, I'd take Bobby Hurley. He was the calm person in the arena tonight. Self ejected. Other Kansas players with technicals. One came close to an ejection. They looked at it for a long time to see if it was a 2 and not a 1. In the end kept it a 1. Hurley was calm as can be. And to beat Kansas when your own season is iin bad shape says something that we are not seeing from Red.

I know. No one really wants him. He certainly would wake up the dome though.

Um. No

 

[hoopsupstate]

There needs to be an announcement about Red tomorrow. He can stay for the rest of the season or be done now, his choice.

We know Red will be replaced but do the decent thing and protect him from a hostile home crowd in the last home game.

The students are on spring break next week so they won’t be there to chant against Red. I hope we can get a win. I think Red wants to win more than anyone else and it’s rather sad the way things have worked out for him and the program. I just hope fans give our former player some respect on Saturday. He will always be Orange and we need to just wish him well and move on. Red will want the next guy to do well. Some people will say that he’s made a lot of money and we shouldn’t feel sorry for him. Money doesn’t make him feel a whole lot better about how the season has gone. Time for blaming is over and we just need to move on. Red was put into a situation where he just wasn’t ready for this job and he did what he thought was right. I feel the University failed him. He wasn’t prepared for the job and the University was slow to provide him everything he needed to be successful. I think the next coach is in a far better place than what Red came into the program with.

 

[miamicuse]

We talked about all that.

We talking about blocking out and rebounding.

We talked about space and pace.

We talked about defending.

We talked about shooting.

We talked about switching.

Most of all we talked about winning.

But you can't win by talking.

 

[Cstate]

Another solid game from our “shooting” guards. JJ was 1-5 for 2 points in 19 minutes. Kiyan got the other 19 minutes and was 1-6 for 4 points.

Pretty crazy turn of events from a former McD’s all-American / 5* recruit and the other player who some compared to Lawrence Moten earlier in the season.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Another solid game from our “shooting” guards. JJ was 1-5 for 2 points in 19 minutes. Kiyan got the other 19 minutes and was 1-6 for 4 points.

Pretty crazy turn of events from a former McD’s all-American / 5* recruit and the other player who some compared to Lawrence Moten earlier in the season.

I mean the simple solution would have been to move Kingz to the 2 and play Sadiq more. Red complained about the team all year, but never changed his rotations.

 

[AlaskaSU]

LOL, you all will be be calling for firing the next head coach soon enough. What does BC, Cuse, Pitt have in common with the ACC?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Wow. Maybe for the first time since before my freshman year of college, a Syracuse basketball game took place and I had no idea it was even played and barely cared about the result.

It’s gotten that bad..

I forgot we had a game, went to a social commitment I had, could have watched the recording if I remembered, but instead started watching Schmigadoon.

Why? I don't know. Do I look like I have answers?

 

[Cusefan0307]

LOL, you all will be be calling for firing the next head coach soon enough. What does BC, Cuse, Pitt have in common with the ACC?

Absolutely moronic.

 

[Scooch]

LOL, you all will be be calling for firing the next head coach soon enough. What does BC, Cuse, Pitt have in common with the ACC?

About as much as Louisville, who kicked our a s s last night.

 

[phil77]

“ Naithan George said Syracuse players took Autry’s toughness challenge to heart. They tried to defend better against Louisville.”

Jfc

That cant be real

 

[gmoney44]

I wonder if Red will ever be a head coach again after his SU tenure is over.

Some high school will take a flyer on him.

 

[Eric15]

I feel like Kyle has really dropped off offensively. In the first 12 games of the season, he scored in double figures seven times, and never had fewer than seven points in a game.

In the past eight games, he has only scored in double figures twice, and scored four or less points five times. Against Wake he played 27 minutes and didn't attempt a single shot.

He did have a good game last night going 4-5 from the field.

 

[Blanko97]

LOL, you all will be be calling for firing the next head coach soon enough. What does BC, Cuse, Pitt have in common with the ACC?

I’ll call for any coach that can’t make the tournament at Syracuse to be fired, yes. It’s embarrassing how often some of you will resort to the idea that the ACC is the reason Syracuse has struggled. It has nothing to do with the conference affiliation whatsoever

 

[Blanko97]

Another solid game from our “shooting” guards. JJ was 1-5 for 2 points in 19 minutes. Kiyan got the other 19 minutes and was 1-6 for 4 points.

Pretty crazy turn of events from a former McD’s all-American / 5* recruit and the other player who some compared to Lawrence Moten earlier in the season.

This boards talent evaluation might be as bad as reds

 

[capeorange]

Sadiq played well and with hustle. The lead got down to 11 with him in the game... so Red pulls him...

Donnie had 4 turnovers and not much hustle.

 

[RF2044]

8 assists on 23 made baskets.

It’s hard to play offense that ineptly.

Not when you lack a structured offensive concept, and you don't teach the players to do purposeful things like have spacing, cut, move without the ball, screen, etc.

We used to joke around about how JB would just roll the ball out [which wasn't true; but he did give players he trusted LOTS of freedom].

But with Red, that is an accurate description of what our offense is. No real structure, just put it in the PG's hands and hope something happens, or that somebody is hot from three any given game.

That's our offense.

 

[Nicknack]

Another game with Freeman committing multiple turnovers (4). I wouldn't mind it as much if they were bad passes in an attempt to make a play but most are the defender just ripping the ball out of his hands.

 

[ar inj]

Another game with Freeman committing multiple turnovers (4). I wouldn't mind it as much if they were bad passes in an attempt to make a play but most are the defender just ripping the ball out of his hands.

Yes, but I think last night that he locked the ACC’s Manolete Award, for the best matador defense in the conference.

 

[RF2044]

The students are on spring break next week so they won’t be there to chant against Red. I hope we can get a win. I think Red wants to win more than anyone else and it’s rather sad the way things have worked out for him and the program. I just hope fans give our former player some respect on Saturday. He will always be Orange and we need to just wish him well and move on. Red will want the next guy to do well. Some people will say that he’s made a lot of money and we shouldn’t feel sorry for him. Money doesn’t make him feel a whole lot better about how the season has gone. Time for blaming is over and we just need to move on. Red was put into a situation where he just wasn’t ready for this job and he did what he thought was right. I feel the University failed him. He wasn’t prepared for the job and the University was slow to provide him everything he needed to be successful. I think the next coach is in a far better place than what Red came into the program with.

Failed him?

He wasn't qualified for the job! There was NOTHING in his background that suggested that he had the chops for the job. He was one of the architects of the program's decline over Boeheim's last eight years, which was a STRONG indicator that he and the other ACs didn't excel at teaching the game. He wasn't coveted by any other programs. And there was nothing in advance to suggest that he was anything special from an X's and O's standpoint.

Literally nothing.

Everyone got excited at the beginning, at his initial press conference, when he suggested we were going to change away from zone, but all of the vague / non-specific stuff he had to say about what his approach would be ["Syracuse standard"] should have been a red flag. As it turns out, there wasn't any substance behind any of it -- because he didn't really have any tools in his tool belt.

Red, much like Mike Hopkins proved at UW, is a solid assistant coach who got exposed as a no-trick pony, with lousy systems on both sides of the ball, and no plan B when plan A didn't work. But that's what happens when your entire approach is predicated upon enthusiasm and encouraging effort, without any tactical acumen to go along with it.

He never should have been considered for the job in the first place, and wouldn't have been if JB hadn't foisted him on us by not stepping down gracefully, with dignity.

And three years later, the program is in a much worse spot than it was. The University didn't fail Red, they failed the fanbase by making such a lousy, unqualified hire for a high profile, performance based role. They failed the fanbase by artificially constraining the candidate pool, and emphasizing BS evaluative criteria like ties to the program, instead of far more important, merit-based considerations. And they failed the fanbase by pretending that there was nothing else they could do, because JB would get mad.

Managing around dysfunction never works. And here we are.

 

[Cstate]

I forgot who it was, but someone mentioned in the game thread about the hockey line change and how it was a tied game when it happened. Then that line change preceded to go -11 in about 3 minutes. He still hasn’t learned, which is mind boggling.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

I forgot who it was, but someone mentioned in the game thread about the hockey line change and how it was a tied game when it happened. Then that line change preceded to go -11 in about 3 minutes. He still hasn’t learned, which is mind boggling.

He still plays Betsey! Obviously learning is not part of Red’s dna.