Lydon injury

[Cuse House]

No, I got your initial meaning: you wanted Roberson to get more run. That's why I posed my question.

In certain instances I think Robey can be a spark plug, he hasn't done anything this year to prove that but he has in past years. Don't want to give up on him. I just felt good for him that he was able to play well tonight albeit in a laugher. It's tough to stomach the demise of a senior.

 

[Cuse House]

Every Achilles I have ever seen, and I have seen a few, they guy was in mortal terror lying on the floor. They didn't walk off on their own.

Partial tears can occur. Kobe is an example, he didn't go down in agony. Some people handle pain differently. I'm not saying it's anything other than a strain, I'm just implying it is probably a little more than "he will walk it off and be fine." I think it will probably be sore and uncomfortable for a few weeks and may hamper him a bit. Should be fine by ACC play.

 

[Cuse House]

Just watched House- I'm pretty sure it's lupus

Lupus, sarcoidosis, or African Sleeping sickness. Those are my guesses.

 

[jgeorge322]

Partial tears can occur. Kobe is an example, he didn't go down in agony. Some people handle pain differently. I'm not saying it's anything other than a strain, I'm just implying it is probably a little more than "he will walk it off and be fine." I think it will probably be sore and uncomfortable for a few weeks and may hamper him a bit. Should be fine by ACC play.

kobe completely ruptured his. also, that tendon had a lot of games under it. tyler is a young lad. probably not the degeneration that kobe had in there. id imagine tyler would be in considerable pain if he completely ruptured it, but you are right in saying, we probably don't know.

 

[iommi]

In certain instances I think Robey can be a spark plug, he hasn't done anything this year to prove that but he has in past years. Don't want to give up on him. I just felt good for him that he was able to play well tonight albeit in a laugher. It's tough to stomach the demise of a senior.

I want him to do well too, of course. I'm just done with trying to hope he's going to get better. He's an enigmatic, frustrating player and has been since day one. He was even a nervous wreck when he announced his commitment to SU. Not that it meant anything. But in retrospect, maybe it did. Roberson is just not a confident player. He never came out of his shell. And worse, he never improved.

He's a NJ player. I watched him in high school. I was never completely overwhelmed with him but I thought he'd be much better than he has been. Much better. I knew his shooting was dicey but he even hit three's in high school at a decent clip, and some huge shots in clutch moments. Where the heck is that guy?

 

[Toga]

kobe completely ruptured his. also, that tendon had a lot of games under it. tyler is a young lad. probably not the degeneration that kobe had in there. id imagine tyler would be in considerable pain if he completely ruptured it, but you are right in saying, we probably don't know.

Considerable pain would be an understatement.

 

[Cuse House]

I want him to do well too, of course. I'm just done with trying to hope he's going to get better. He's an enigmatic, frustrating player and has been since day one. He was even a nervous wreck when he announced his commitment to SU. Not that it meant anything. But in retrospect, maybe it did. Roberson is just not a confident player. He never came out of his shell. And worse, he never improved.

He's a NJ player. I watched him in high school. I was never completely overwhelmed with him but I thought he'd be much better than he has been. Much better. I knew his shooting was dicey but he even hit three's in high school at a decent clip, and some huge shots in clutch moments. Where the heck is that guy?

Some dudes just have it, some don't. It's too bad, he could be a dominant rebounder if he did.

 

[iommi]

In certain instances I think Robey can be a spark plug, he hasn't done anything this year to prove that but he has in past years. Don't want to give up on him. I just felt good for him that he was able to play well tonight albeit in a laugher. It's tough to stomach the demise of a senior.

Remember the scene is There's Something About Mary where Ted meets Healy and Healy says he's moving to Miami to work for Rice-A-Roni and Ted says he's going to see Mary, despite her shortcomings?

Ted says: "I thought you said, she was a real spark plug?"

Healy responds: "Spark plug? No, I said, 'Butt plug.'"

I'll show myself out now.

 

[VaBeachOrFan]

Probably mono. Thank God, it could be worse . . . it could have been stereo!-VBOF

 

[Toga]

Probably mono. Thank God, it could be worse . . . it could have been stereo!-VBOF

 

[Delmar]

My wife's a hospice nurse...says he'll be fine.

Thanks for a good laugh.

 

[Delmar]

LBI -- the first time I saw LBI I thought people were talking about Long Beach Island.

Thank God it wasn't an OBX.

 

[orangezen]

beat the reaper

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So long as it's not the potato knee.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

A little medicine 101. The Achilles is a tendon. It doesn't get strained. You strain muscles not tendons, and all strain means is microtear. I think what they are perhaps trying to say is he has a gastrocnemius strain, which to me seems more logical given his mechanism of injury. The gasroc attaches to the calcaneus (heel) via the Achilles tendon, so perhaps that is why this terminology is being loosely thrown out there by the staff.

Tendons are either completely torn, partially torn, or inflamed . Those are your three choices for tendons. You certainly do not need an MRI to determine if Lydon had a full thickness tear / rupture because its clinically readily evident. You need the MRI to determine if there is partial thickness tear or tendinopathy, the treatment for each would be the same, rest / nsaids.

having said all this, based on my remote observation, this is a nothing injury.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

A little medicine 101. The Achilles is a tendon. It doesn't get strained. You strain muscles not tendons, and all strain means is microtear. I think what they are perhaps trying to say is he has a gastrocnemius strain, which to me seems more logical given his mechanism of injury. The gasroc attaches to the calcaneus (heel) via the Achilles tendon, so perhaps that is why this terminology is being loosely thrown out there by the staff.

Tendons are either completely torn, partially torn, or inflamed . Those are your three choices for tendons. You certainly do not need an MRI to determine if Lydon had a full thickness tear / rupture because its clinically readily evident. You need the MRI to determine if there is partial thickness tear or tendinopathy, the treatment for each would be the same, rest / nsaids.

having said all this, based on my remote observation, this is a nothing injury.

If it was, it would surely lead to the next game defeet.

 

[weedsportwarriors]

never seen an achilles injury from landing...

I ruptured my Achilles after coming down from making a layup with no one around me. Worse pain I ever felt. I was 35 when it happen.

 

[weedsportwarriors]

Every Achilles I have ever seen, and I have seen a few, they guy was in mortal terror lying on the floor. They didn't walk off on their own.

That explains it very well. Only when I did it I was dropping several bombs as well.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I ruptured my Achilles after coming down from making a layup with no one around me. Worse pain I ever felt. I was 35 when it happen.

"So much rhythm, grace, and debonair for one man,"

 

[Toga]

If it was, it would surely lead to the next game defeet.

Well that's a defeetist attitude.

 

[br801]

A little medicine 101. The Achilles is a tendon. It doesn't get strained. You strain muscles not tendons, and all strain means is microtear. I think what they are perhaps trying to say is he has a gastrocnemius strain, which to me seems more logical given his mechanism of injury. The gasroc attaches to the calcaneus (heel) via the Achilles tendon, so perhaps that is why this terminology is being loosely thrown out there by the staff.

Tendons are either completely torn, partially torn, or inflamed . Those are your three choices for tendons. You certainly do not need an MRI to determine if Lydon had a full thickness tear / rupture because its clinically readily evident. You need the MRI to determine if there is partial thickness tear or tendinopathy, the treatment for each would be the same, rest / nsaids.

having said all this, based on my remote observation, this is a nothing injury.

Like the sound of all that, so I'm going with it unless I hear otherwise.

 

[NineOneSeven]

A little medicine 101. The Achilles is a tendon. It doesn't get strained. You strain muscles not tendons, and all strain means is microtear. I think what they are perhaps trying to say is he has a gastrocnemius strain, which to me seems more logical given his mechanism of injury. The gasroc attaches to the calcaneus (heel) via the Achilles tendon, so perhaps that is why this terminology is being loosely thrown out there by the staff.

Tendons are either completely torn, partially torn, or inflamed . Those are your three choices for tendons. You certainly do not need an MRI to determine if Lydon had a full thickness tear / rupture because its clinically readily evident. You need the MRI to determine if there is partial thickness tear or tendinopathy, the treatment for each would be the same, rest / nsaids.

having said all this, based on my remote observation, this is a nothing injury.

I said in the game thread he is likely going to be getting a lot of massage work done on his calves and plantar fascia-- the soft tissues upstream and downstream from the injury. What he could have felt was actually just extreme tightness- a "twinge" like feeling.

 

[Newhouser]

So... question about the above. I know that we absolutely have to get the win against St. John's. But if I'm JB and this really is a strained achilles issue, I'm strongly considering giving him the next two weeks off to get therapy, rest it, and not aggravate it further. I'd probably look to have him sit in our next game AND Cornell, to not risk making the strain worse.

Not suggesting that it would be fully healed in two weeks, but we might as well take advantage of it and see if it improves with a bit of down time, before things heat up in the ACC schedule. Bottom line: he'll probably be fighting this all year long. These type of injuries suck in sports that rely upon running, cutting, and quickness.

I agree - A) we should be able to handle St Johns without him and B) at this point the St Johns game doesn't make our season. We need ACC wins, including some big ones, - I want Lydon ready for that.

 

[Brooky03]

It looked to me like Lydon was just being extra cautious, as he should be, since the game was a blowout win. It was actually more scary to not see his ankle buckle than it would have been if it was a clear ankle sprain because of the uncertainty. I was glad to see him walking with at least some weight on the foot and not indicating that he was in too much pain.

 

[MGP]

"So much rhythm, grace, and debonair for one man,"

Spinners - nice