Maraad Watson transferring to Texas

[PeteCalvin]

I thought he was referring to coach Sark, his current coach. But I guess it could be his HS coach.

Fran could take Sark in a fight. Let’s get em in the octagon!

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Sherman20]

Guys the NIL is fine, from what I’m hearing it’s the rev share is the issue. SU is allocating millions less to football than its pier schools. The reason? Basketball. Meaning, Football is starting behind and NIL can’t make up the millions other schools have.

This isn’t true at all. Basketball is likely getting $3-4 million, which is basically the same allotment as other schools. We might be closer to $4 million but that’s not a huge difference. Women’s basketball will get $1 million. And football $15 million. Also the House settlement hasn’t been approved yet, so who knows if the money is even available yet?

 

[Sherman20]

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Sorry to be argumentative but to say football is only getting $10 - 11MM out of the $20.5MM revenue sharing pool because we are overfunding basketball is simply not true. Not sure where you got that information from or why you choose to believe it, but I can state with first hand knowledge that it is false. Certainly what we will devote from this channel to football is not enough to compete at the top tiers on its own but that’s where NIL and the collectives need to help bridge the gap.

I’ll back out now and let you insist you’re right but I trust others on this forum can easily find the truth.

What do you mean by this line?
“Certainly what we will devote from this channel to football is not enough to compete at the top tiers.”
For the House settlement, aren’t all schools that opt in agreeing to devote the same amount of money to direct payments to players?

 

[2B20Again]

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What do you mean by this line?
“Certainly what we will devote from this channel to football is not enough to compete at the top tiers.”
For the House settlement, aren’t all schools that opt in agreeing to devote the same amount of money to direct payments to players?

Yes, look at it this way. All schools have 20.5 to allocate directly to athletic programs. The schools determine which program gets what amount. UConn May decide to spend 16million on hoops 4 million on . The reverse of what you outlined. However, the 20.5 million is a cap on what the school can directly spend. Here’s where the rub comes. NIL watches. No cap on that. If you have 10 mill you can spend additional 10 mill if you have 20 mill you can spend that. That’s wh

 

[ImperialOrange]

Look, if SU has to be the cool place to go, get on the field and then you leave to get paid in the SEC and BIG for the last two years, I'm ok with that. We can also be the place where 4 and 5 stars go to play after sitting the bench for two years in the SEC and BIG. You can win with that formula.

Exactly this. Also, MW (and the like) can go get his Texas sized bag then come back to Cuse next year ala Duce. He's paid, his family is set, he can follow his heart from there.

MW is a stud player but even with his loss we are way ahead on portal dealings.

The interesting/cool thing for me is watching coaches actively try and get walk ons scholarships elsewhere. Montenez can go try and get a scholarship or return back if not for example. I love watching walkons get scholarships and or coaches are working that as well.

 

[TexanMark]

Exactly this. Also, MW (and the like) can go get his Texas sized bag then come back to Cuse next year ala Duce. He's paid, his family is set, he can follow his heart from there.

MW is a stud player but even with his loss we are way ahead on portal dealings.

The interesting/cool thing for me is watching coaches actively try and get walk ons scholarships elsewhere. Montenez can go try and get a scholarship or return back if not for example. I love watching walkons get scholarships and or coaches are working that as well.

I thought the same...not likely but still possible he returns

 

[ImperialOrange]

I thought the same...not likely but still possible he returns

He didn't burn bridges... Fran's reaction was priceless hearing the dollar amount. "Why are we talking? you want me to call and tell them you're coming for you?".

It's refreshing to haa coach that gets it and puts players best interests above his own.

 

[Orangefizz]

Maraad getting a big payday also helps Fran recruit future players by letting them know if they perform well on the field a big payday is waiting for them.

 

[tep624]

He didn't burn bridges... Fran's reaction was priceless hearing the dollar amount. "Why are we talking? you want me to call and tell them you're coming for you?".

It's refreshing to haa coach that gets it and puts players best interests above his own.

I feel like both Maraad and Fran did everything right in this situation. We were given an opportunity to match, it was a real offer, and Fran felt it wouldn't be fair to the balance of comp on the team. Many of these kids come from economic backgrounds where generational wealth is a pipe dream - it was the right path all the way around under the circumstances.

 

[Orangefizz]

I feel like both Maraad and Fran did everything right in this situation. We were given an opportunity to match, it was a real offer, and Fran felt it wouldn't be fair to the balance of comp on the team. Many of these kids come from economic backgrounds where generational wealth is a pipe dream - it was the right path all the way around under the circumstances.

Happy for the kid to get a big payday. Fran recovered nicely by signing George Rooks

 

[Consigliere]

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What do you mean by this line?
“Certainly what we will devote from this channel to football is not enough to compete at the top tiers.”
For the House settlement, aren’t all schools that opt in agreeing to devote the same amount of money to direct payments to players?

I mean that looking holistically at player compensation the amount we will devote from revenue sharing, just because that channel is capped, will not make us financially competitive with the top tier programs. The uncapped third party “NIL” payments will still be a differentiating factor between Syracuse and Georgia.

 

[Sherman20]

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Yes, look at it this way. All schools have 20.5 to allocate directly to athletic programs. The schools determine which program gets what amount. UConn May decide to spend 16million on hoops 4 million on . The reverse of what you outlined. However, the 20.5 million is a cap on what the school can directly spend. Here’s where the rub comes. NIL watches. No cap on that. If you have 10 mill you can spend additional 10 mill if you have 20 mill you can spend that. That’s wh

I mean that looking holistically at player compensation the amount we will devote from revenue sharing, just because that channel is capped, will not make us financially competitive with the top tier programs. The uncapped third party “NIL” payments will still be a differentiating factor between Syracuse and Georgia.

But my understanding is that part of the House settlement will include the end of NIL as we know it. There will be an NCAA clearinghouse that will determine the legitimacy of NIL deals.

Power schools will outsource enforcing NIL payments to athletes

Skeptics say cash to players for commercial endorsements often far exceeds the service's actual value.

www.espn.com

I’ll post more about this in a NIL thread.

And set aside Big East/UConn for a moment. Most P4 schools are expected to spend around $14-16 million on football from the House settlement money, so not a huge difference between programs.

 

[CU44SE]

Edit: Pro Football Talk said Texas is spending 35-40 million on its football roster this year. Then said 45 million later in the article. So Texas is spending somewhere in the 35-45 million dollar range.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Report came out today that Texas is spending roughly 45 million on their roster this year.

What. How is that possible.

 

[Sdot]

What. How is that possible.

$16 million revenue sharing and $30 million from NIL.

 

[CU44SE]

What. How is that possible.

Well I reread the article. Pro Football Talk said 35-40 million and then said 45 million later in the article. So it’s somewhere in the 35-45 million dollar range.

 

[anomander]

Maraad getting a big payday also helps Fran recruit future players by letting them know if they perform well on the field a big payday is waiting for them.

That’s not a selling point i would go with. Who cares if we play a true freshman who excels. You won’t see the real game changing benefits until year 2 or 3

 

[rmtsu]

What. How is that possible.

Texas A&M raised 120 Million for their 12th Man Foundation and then fired their coach and will pay him 76 million, there is a lot of money out there among fans of some of the schools around the country and some are willing to part with it in the hopes that their school will have a good team. There will be some disappointed people but hey its only money. I don't believe this is sustainable but at least for a while some of the players will benefit substantially.

 

[anomander]

Edit: Pro Football Talk said Texas is spending 35-40 million on its football roster this year. Then said 45 million later in the article. So Texas is spending somewhere in the 35-45 million dollar range.

This is insane. Arch Manning is getting like $6M alone I believe.

 

[bnoro]

Edit: Pro Football Talk said Texas is spending 35-40 million on its football roster this year. Then said 45 million later in the article. So Texas is spending somewhere in the 35-45 million dollar range.

Yeah I don't believe that for a second.

 

[orangetrain]

Listen SU football is getting 12 M End of story. Bball is getting 5 M end of story. Weistman hasn’t done anything for SU but bring attention to himself.
Fran’s doing a great job this portable, looks like our NIL has stepped up too.
Stop the nonsense and let’s focus on our future.
I admit I’ve been on this forum beginning in the Cuse confidential/ rivals/AOL years and began posting a few years ago. I had the upmost respect for many posters who I thought were in the know.
After many of the comments, especially in the Rev share/ Weistman posts, I know know they really know nothing.

 

[PAcuse]

What. How is that possible.

Oil Oil Oil
Pioneer Oil & Gas was bought out by Exxon for $64 BILLION and that was for the 55th overall oil company in the world

Oil money is just a whole new level of stupid. $4.3 TRILLION was made in 2023...
For reference (because I'm a nerd and stuff like this is one of my things) A stack of a billion pennies would be 67.9 miles high, while a stack of a trillion pennies would be 67,866 miles high

 

[PAcuse]

This is insane. Arch Manning is getting like $6M alone I believe.

Yeah I read his NIL Valuation is $6 million...crazy times we live in
Texas AD did say it will be going down and this is not the norm as they are phasing out the NIL collective in "time"

 

[crales44]

I know know they really know nothing.