Kyle McCord to NFL Draft

[David321]

One of the many reasons I don't like the NFL nearly as much as college; the perception that all pro teams have to be the same because they're already so similar to begin with. Yawn.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

This is devito nfl salary. McCord can make more in college if he’s not a day 1 or 2 draft pick. I think that is the calculus. I’m not saying McCord is not better that Tommy but an extra year of college coin could pay more handsomely and then u get that rookie contract

Devito:

two-year deal worth $1.665 million. He earned a base salary of $750,000 last year, and he will earn $915,000 during the 2024 season.

Progress toward the pension, which is big

 

[djorange1989]

By what authority could he do that? NCAA based? ACC based?

ACC rules allowed for a school to block a transfer within the conference.

 

[Niastri]

Lol people are taking liberty on the term mobile.

Back to Kyle — he can get a first down with his legs in college sometimes. He won’t do it at the next level and that’s okay

McCord moves around in the pocket like Brady. The resemblance is uncanny at times. Dodging around, eyes up, trying to get an open man instead of trying to run.

He also does a good job throwing it away.

I think McCord might be a long time NFL roster QB because he can make the throws, but possesses the ability to read a defense significantly better than most of his more physically talented competition for roster spots.

 

[CuseIn282xx]

Why as much in the league? They have actual offensive lines that give pretty decent protection. Kyle has shown he has enough to make it in a league.

In all seriousness, he runs a pretty good QB sneak. Counts for something.

Plus, I live in Charlotte. McCord has GOTTA be better than Bryce Young.

 

[kcsu]

Kyle is going to have a very long and successful NFL career. I expect him to play 10 years or more in the league. Watching the bowl games and the playoffs today there isn't one QB that i have watched play that i like better than Kyle. He is a stud and a leader.

 

[Sudano]

Kyle is going to have a very long and successful NFL career. I expect him to play 10 years or more in the league. Watching the bowl games and the playoffs today there isn't one QB that i have watched play that i like better than Kyle. He is a stud and a leader.

Let's just hope it starts in 2026.

 

[Cuseregular]

Kyle is going to have a very long and successful NFL career. I expect him to play 10 years or more in the league. Watching the bowl games and the playoffs today there isn't one QB that i have watched play that i like better than Kyle. He is a stud and a leader.

Yep Been saying that from day one post game Ohio:

McCord and his throwing

The biggest take from watching him live Not the most nimble Not very fast Not nervous in the pocket Insane number of throws that were early on the break and on time Those throws into small window were awesome to see, but also can get him into trouble as he will be off a few times. Best...

syracusefan.com

Game rewatch observations

Had a chance to rewatch the game. Posted this in another thread, but here are some observations. Note: I am not an X’s and O’s guy, just an avid fan. Line play Ohio consistently had six and sometimes seven on the line and used great leverage and chipped effectively to get to our linebackers and...

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[Cuseregular]

McCord moves around in the pocket like Brady. The resemblance is uncanny at times. Dodging around, eyes up, trying to get an open man instead of trying to run.

He also does a good job throwing it away.

I think McCord might be a long time NFL roster QB because he can make the throws, but possesses the ability to read a defense significantly better than most of his more physically talented competition for roster spots.

This^^^^^^^^^^! Exactly, spot on.

 

[OttosShoes]

I think McCord might be a long time NFL roster QB because he can make the throws, but possesses the ability to read a defense significantly better than most of his more physically talented competition for roster spots.

Exactly. Not sure I can think of one player in the FBS that is competitive with his football IQ.

Not only do I think he's going to have a solid NFL career, I think he's going to have a phenomenal coaching career after it's over.

 

[djorange1989]

I just read an ESPN guy’s evaluation of the 2025 draft QB class, he had Kyle as late round of UFA. First of all, let’s hope he is a 2026 guy. Secondly, the NFL are idiots in terms of scouting QBs. Busts all over the place who were drafted at the top of the draft because of nothing more than “potential” or they look great throwing in shorts with no one in their face.

 

[orangefog]

I just read an ESPN guy’s evaluation of the 2025 draft QB class, he had Kyle as late round of UFA. First of all, let’s hope he is a 2026 guy. Secondly, the NFL are idiots in terms of scouting QBs. Busts all over the place who were drafted at the top of the draft because of nothing more than “potential” or they looks great throwing in shorts with no one in their face.

It takes a rare combination of intelligence, demeanor and physical skill. It seems most NFL teams value the physical skills way more than the everything else.

 

[BigNastyJon]

It takes a rare combination of intelligence, demeanor and physical skill.

That’s what she said.

 

[JKinPhilly]

A) most people who are "talent evaluators" on the internet don't know what they are talking about
b) most people who on this board don't know what they are talking about when it comes to talent evaluation

Both can be true in Kyle's case

 

[AngryOtto]

I just read an ESPN guy’s evaluation of the 2025 draft QB class, he had Kyle as late round of UFA. First of all, let’s hope he is a 2026 guy. Secondly, the NFL are idiots in terms of scouting QBs. Busts all over the place who were drafted at the top of the draft because of nothing more than “potential” or they looks great throwing in shorts with no one in their face.

I agree with this take. Feel nfl evaluation has really gone down hill the last 15 years. I remember when guys from smaller schools would get scouted, drafted early and have long pro careers. It seems like gms now look at star rating prior to picking a player. Head scratcher. I have always never understood why teams select QBs from blue bloods. Most of these guys are busts because they do not need to really learn how to read defenses, get the ball out quick or fit the ball into tight windows. Their wr are usually open by 10 yards and have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball. QBs at non blue bloods do not have these advantages and need to learn to be great passers and read defenses. Look at most of the qbs with long term success. They were not from blue bloods except Brady and he was drafted in the 6th round.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I agree with this take. Feel nfl evaluation has really gone down hill the last 15 years. I remember when guys from smaller schools would get scouted, drafted early and have long pro careers. It seems like gms now look at star rating prior to picking a player. Head scratcher. I have always never understood why teams select QBs from blue bloods. Most of these guys are busts because they do not need to really learn how to read defenses, get the ball out quick or fit the ball into tight windows. Their wr are usually open by 10 yards and have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball. QBs at non blue bloods do not have these advantages and need to learn to be great passers and read defenses. Look at most of the qbs with long term success. They were not from blue bloods except Brady and he was drafted in the 6th round.

Interesting thoughts.

 

[orangezen]

I agree with this take. Feel nfl evaluation has really gone down hill the last 15 years. I remember when guys from smaller schools would get scouted, drafted early and have long pro careers. It seems like gms now look at star rating prior to picking a player. Head scratcher. I have always never understood why teams select QBs from blue bloods. Most of these guys are busts because they do not need to really learn how to read defenses, get the ball out quick or fit the ball into tight windows. Their wr are usually open by 10 yards and have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball. QBs at non blue bloods do not have these advantages and need to learn to be great passers and read defenses. Look at most of the qbs with long term success. They were not from blue bloods except Brady and he was drafted in the 6th round.

Phil Simms comes to mind

 

[pokercuse08]

I agree with this take. Feel nfl evaluation has really gone down hill the last 15 years. I remember when guys from smaller schools would get scouted, drafted early and have long pro careers. It seems like gms now look at star rating prior to picking a player. Head scratcher. I have always never understood why teams select QBs from blue bloods. Most of these guys are busts because they do not need to really learn how to read defenses, get the ball out quick or fit the ball into tight windows. Their wr are usually open by 10 yards and have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball. QBs at non blue bloods do not have these advantages and need to learn to be great passers and read defenses. Look at most of the qbs with long term success. They were not from blue bloods except Brady and he was drafted in the 6th round.

I think for a lot of positions drafting from the factories makes sense because it's lower risk. If an OL/DL at a factory showed out, you know he did it against top competition. If a DE in the MAC lit it up, you're still guessing to some extent unless they played a powerhouse.

I think the same rings true to a lesser extent to WR/CB and part of the reasoning there is different and comes down to the raw athletic abilities needed, and being recruited by the factories. RB/LB fall into this category too but even less so.

Then we get to QB, and I think a lot of what you said is accurate. Some teams are really good at scouting QBs, others not so much. You can't just rely on who had the most production at the factories.

Some evaluators want to see a guy like McCord do it against an SEC defense, when the reality is he's already proven he can throw into tight windows, can throw with anticipation, and can read a defense. I don't think his performance against an SEC defense matters, unless you give him an SEC OL.

 

[dasher]

After what we are going through in hoop, we need some great news here. We need it.

 

[Jake]

After what we are going through in hoop, we need some great news here. We need it.

Yeah we need him to announce in a post victory interview on Fox that he’s coming back.

 

[orangefog]

Yeah we need him to announce in a post victory interview on Fox that he’s coming back.

Take advantage of the opportunity for publicity toward our season next year and Kyle’s Heismann campaign

 

[Chip]

Yeah we need him to announce in a post victory interview on Fox that he’s coming back.

Kyle McCord, you just won the Holiday Bowl MVP, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going back to Syracuse b!tches!"

 

[0.2 YNdeeR]

Kyle McCord, you just won the Holiday Bowl MVP, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going back to Syracuse b!tches!"

Or even better, "I'm going back to Syracuse, bitches!"?

 

[Red2003]

Fox ran a lot of commercials for the Holiday Bowl last night. I can’t remember the last time I saw a commercial advertising Syracuse Football.

 

[Niastri]

It takes a rare combination of intelligence, demeanor and physical skill. It seems most NFL teams value the physical skills way more than the everything else.

QB requires more mental acuity, decision making and reading of defenses than any other position. By a wide margin... As long as a QB has enough physical ability, the mental stuff is much more important. Brady went his whole life with scouts saying he had a less than average arm.

As Pasqualoni once said "It doesn't matter how fast you are when you are running the wrong direction."

Scouting is an inexact business. Scouting mental abilities is nearly impossible. The problem is, we have excellent, laser guided electronic tools to determine how tall you are, how hard you can throw it, if you can hit the bucket at 50 yards or not, and everything else about a prospect's body, along with how it fits in with other players at their position.

For the mental stuff, we have gimmicky tests like the Wonderliq that might not even test what they think it does and... interviews.

If you are a scout, and go to your GM and say you want to draft a fat, slow QB with a weak arm that didn't even start at his college because he interviewed well, you're going to get laughed out of the room. Yet, Brady went on to be one of the best of all time. One of his best skills is that he was essentially

As long as defenses are complex, constantly changing and trying to stop the passing game, the mental aspects of playing quarterback are going to be essential. As long as the ability to map the mental qualities of is random, so will the scouting of quarterbacks.