OrangeXtreme
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The answer is Moten... 100%
Not even close.CJ Fair
I think he's both taller and slightly more athletic than Moten. But I think Moten is a great comp because of the smooth movements and always being in the right spot. I have been really impressed with Anthony so far.144% THIS.
I’ve been saying this since he was in HS.
He’s not an explosive athlete, but smooth and controlled, has a deep bag of offensive moves, solid midrange game, and knows his spots and can get to them seemingly at will.
Poetry 2.0.
One big difference is that Moten was a low volume and relatively underwhelming three point shooter (not saying that as an insult, you could say the same thing about Michael Jordan). Whereas Kiyan appears to be able to really light it up from deep. Obviously part of that is the evolution of the game over 30 years.The answer is Moten... 100%
Not enough hops, but aside from that I see it.CJ Fair
Lol loves mid range, high iq, creative and solid finisher at the basket, unselfish player. Not even close, sure!Not even close.
When I think of comparing players I look at the way they move and how they look doing it. I can’t think of two more different playing styles. CJ is not nearly the shooter Kiyan is, but he’s also more athletic.Lol loves mid range, high iq, creative and solid finisher at the basket, unselfish player. Not even close, sure!
I see Kiyan as a shorter, quicker, better ball handling, more athletic, better shooting, more agile version of Devin Brennan-McBride.
Was just about to say that while I like Mike and Donna, their compulsion to write about players through the lens of other players they remind them of makes fans and readers dumber. But this comment does a better job of conveying that.I see Kiyan as a shorter, quicker, better ball handling, more athletic, better shooting, more agile version of Devin Brennan-McBride.
Not even close.
Think you are selling CJs handle a little short here. He could create looks in the lane in a similar way to what we have seen from Kiyan. Liked creating mid range looks in a similar way. I also do not think we know for sure yet how much playmaking we will see from Kiyan. He may lean more towards scoring in a similar way when we look back at the full year. I did think CJ was a little shorter than 6'8 so that is a difference to be fair.Agreed 144%!!
CJ was an athletic, solid 6'8" 205.
SF/PF hybrid.
Literally could only drive or shoot left - but in spite of everybody knowing that, he could still do it.
Plus defender, plus rebounder.
Never really became a playmaker, even his Sr year only averaged 1.3 assists vs 2.5 TO's / game.
Known for some of his thunderous dunks.
Kiyan is thinner, 6'5" 185
SG/SF hybrid.
Seems adept w both hands around the rim.
Variety of drives and step-backs, can get his shot off in numerous ways.
MUCH better ballhandler and playmaker than CJ ever was.
Haven't seen any epic dunks from him (yet).
More smooth than explosive.
Moten - skinny 6'5" 185
SG/SF hybrid.
Adept w both hands, variety of drives and moves, could get his shot off in numerous ways.
Good playmaker, never averaged under 2 assists/game in any season, 3.3 as a Sr.
Move smooth than explosive.
So, yeah. It ain't CJ.
It's Moten.
Could only drive or shoot left? He was a career 34% 3 point shooter with over 150 attempts. He had the best baseline jumper in recent memory, and was a 72%+ FT shooter. He was well known for his midrange game.Agreed 144%!!
CJ was an athletic, solid 6'8" 205.
SF/PF hybrid.
Literally could only drive or shoot left - but in spite of everybody knowing that, he could still do it.
Plus defender, plus rebounder.
Never really became a playmaker, even his Sr year only averaged 1.3 assists vs 2.5 TO's / game.
Known for some of his thunderous dunks.
Kiyan is thinner, 6'5" 185
SG/SF hybrid.
Seems adept w both hands around the rim.
Variety of drives and step-backs, can get his shot off in numerous ways.
MUCH better ballhandler and playmaker than CJ ever was.
Haven't seen any epic dunks from him (yet).
More smooth than explosive.
Moten - skinny 6'5" 185
SG/SF hybrid.
Adept w both hands, variety of drives and moves, could get his shot off in numerous ways.
Good playmaker, never averaged under 2 assists/game in any season, 3.3 as a Sr.
Move smooth than explosive.
So, yeah. It ain't CJ.
It's Moten.
Certainly a lot of drives to the right in this for a guy who supposedly could only go left. I definitely see the comp. Similar smooth patience when creating looks in the lane. Moten is closer, but it's not like it is a laughably bad comparison.Could only drive or shoot left? He was a career 34% 3 point shooter with over 150 attempts. He had the best baseline jumper in recent memory, and was a 72%+ FT shooter. He was well known for his midrange game.
Just because he was strong with the ball and talented around the rim doesn’t mean that he wasn’t an effective jump shooter.
I see similarities from the mid range approach, and more so when they drive and finish at the rim. I never watched Moten so I won’t comment on that.
I wholeheartedly disagree that Fair wasn’t a playmaker. He was arguably the best player on one of our best teams since ‘03. He didn’t rack up assists, wasn’t his job. Shouldn’t really be Kiyan’s either. I think we’re all getting ahead of ourselves a bit with Kiyan, its been 2 games vs poor opponents