Mind boggling offensive success given the mistakes

[Millhouse]

One of your better efforts.

This is an insult and a compliment at the same time because we both know there was no effort here, so I have to give you credit too

 

[Millhouse]

Serious question...

R u the drunk guy?

I was the drunk guy now I'm the involuntarily sober guy with small kids and I aspire to be the low tolerance old guy who ends up asleep in the ditch when the kids are old enough for me to leave them for days

 

[Millhouse]

OrangePa pining for the days of hand polished cleats, blue blazers, proper table manners and guys with lots of arm hair from Connecticut

Arm hair. Just breezily floating around the surface of the pool like algae. I am not allowed to make fun of anyone for this

 

[Millhouse]

I'm extremely happy they are working on developing the ability to drive down the field. Much rather see them able to execute consistently than rely on big plays for TD's. That has been a huge problem the last two years, a huge percentage of TD's from outside the redzone and not being able to close inside the 10. The first four games they have focused on establishing the run and working the quick game. That stuff travels. And it wears out the opposing defense.

This is also a game where yards probably tell a better story than points for predictions. Goofy random weird stuff can hold points down or boys points up but you don't outgain someone that bad without dominating

 

[texascpa]

This is a fun trivia question. Let me take a crack:

Mitch Browning = weird Minnesota guy
Brian White = drunk guy
Phil Earley = hop scotch guy
Rob Spence = bubble screen guy
it = Cool Kid Mickey D

Did I miss any?

It was also the Bubble Screen guy

 

[Millhouse]

The weird Minnesota guy is Mitch Browning, the bubble screen guy is Rob Spence, mcf’it is obvious. But I don’t know who the drunk/hopscotch Guy is. Brian White?

Yeah. He watched a YouTube video about Chris ault and somehow managed to teach arob to take a short shotgun snap and awkwardly hop over an imaginary puddle before throwing it. Who could've predicted that would mess up the QB? I wonder if arob took the hop with him when barnstorming Liechtenstein and the Alps?

 

[Millhouse]

It was also the Bubble Screen guy

He was a bubble screen guy but he wasn't THE bubble screen guy. We need a thread with Clemson game about this. I remember them warning us in hilarious ways

 

[Millhouse]

The offense stinks what should we do?

I don't know, how about looking at the best offenses and copy them?

We can't do that, we are in the Northeast and all it is is fast receivers. And a fast pace means we might give up more points! We are not a factory

I thought that you were concerned about the offense?

Yeah but we want to be top twenty in defense

Who is top twenty in defense that isn't a factory?

We'll be different. Hard-nosed

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So glad we stopped doing everything the hard way

 

[OrangePA]

You realize that the start of his timeline was 2005 right?

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a bit.

But, the fact is that we won the game yesterday utilizing the same inside tackle series that Ben Schwartzwalder was running in 1970 with Randy Zur at QB.

We threw a lot of bubble screens - the same thing Spence did in 2009 and that Joe Tiller was doing more than twenty years ago.

But, our vertical passing was pretty unimpressive.

The fact is that played and beat a bad football team. We had more talent on the field and that - not the system - is what normally wins games.

Experienced guys like Browning run systems that fit the talent. I think that's what he did in 2008.

The one exception seems to be Pariani, who tried to run a system that clearly did not fit the talent level. In that instance I can't argue that the system was a real problem.

 

[OrangePA]

OrangePa pining for the days of hand polished cleats, blue blazers, proper table manners and guys with lots of arm hair from Connecticut

Not exactly.

I do appreciate proper table manners - that's true. .

And I do wear an Italian cut, blue pattern blazer by Scuderi from Boyd's of Philadelphia.

You may - I don't - check out the hair on guys' arms.

What we saw yesterday was not revolutionary. What we saw was a stronger offensive line produce a strong inside running game - that was the dominant component of our offense.

Our passing game was actually pretty disappointing.

Football is about blocking and tackling.

We blocked a poor team yesterday - just as we should have given the talent differential.

So, I'm not going to go crazy and hail some kind of revelation about offensive football based upon an expected win against an undermanned UConn team.

 

[OrangePA]

The offense stinks what should we do?

I don't know, how about looking at the best offenses and copy them?

We can't do that, we are in the Northeast and all it is is fast receivers. And a fast pace means we might give up more points! We are not a factory

I thought that you were concerned about the offense?

Yeah but we want to be top twenty in defense

Who is top twenty in defense that isn't a factory?

We'll be different. Hard-nosed

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So glad we stopped doing everything the hard way

Hey!

We don't catch well on the outside!

What should we do?

I know!

Lets get a high priced WR coach!!

Actually, the answer is getting a WR who can catch.

 

[NKR1978]

It's oddly satisfying that we scored 51 points and it's kind of disappointing.

 

[upperdeck]

I still think we ran some plays to work on things and not to move the ball, had uconn pushed us we probably run plays that worked more instead of the plays that ground it down. we ran a WR pass play just to force the safety to hang back on bit on attacking the bubble screen as well as some other plays. scoring 80 was not the big concern

 

[TheCusian]

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a bit.

But, the fact is that we won the game yesterday utilizing the same inside tackle series that Ben Schwartzwalder was running in 1970 with Randy Zur at QB.

We threw a lot of bubble screens - the same thing Spence did in 2009 and that Joe Tiller was doing more than twenty years ago.

But, our vertical passing was pretty unimpressive.

The fact is that played and beat a bad football team. We had more talent on the field and that - not the system - is what normally wins games.

Experienced guys like Browning run systems that fit the talent. I think that's what he did in 2008.

The one exception seems to be Pariani, who tried to run a system that clearly did not fit the talent level. In that instance I can't argue that the system was a real problem.

A system isn’t just a bunch of plays. It’s *how* they work together against what the defense is doing. In this system it’s that *plus* tempo. All systems need talent and good talent in a good system elevated that talent.

I’d argue that those other OC’s didn’t run a system that made sense and that the talent wasn’t elevated by it, but hurt by it.

Babers also didn’t burn the house to the ground in year 1. He tried to meld what was here with his talent vs top 15 SoS. That’s why there’s been an uneven couple of years (that and Eric getting hurt). But even within that , it was clear that they system was going to be effective.

 

[GoSU96]

OPa isn’t wrong about the pass game needs to be better. Sub 60 completion percentage isn’t going to cut it the rest of the way

And I wish Dungey wouldn’t lollipop those bubbles so much. He’s either going to get a guy killed or have the go for six the other way

 

[upperdeck]

the system works and it doesnt have an elite player at any spot on the field, it has a bunch of solid players. just one player with elite speed can cause issues. that OD tank ran away from the VT D last night I am not sure any of our backs could do that. shoot last night Strickland ran thru a huge hole and ED caught him just following the play

 

[upperdeck]

ED throws it quick but not a ton of zip where as TD fires it, that will be big when he takes over.

 

[Millhouse]

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a bit.

But, the fact is that we won the game yesterday utilizing the same inside tackle series that Ben Schwartzwalder was running in 1970 with Randy Zur at QB.

We threw a lot of bubble screens - the same thing Spence did in 2009 and that Joe Tiller was doing more than twenty years ago.

But, our vertical passing was pretty unimpressive.

The fact is that played and beat a bad football team. We had more talent on the field and that - not the system - is what normally wins games.

Experienced guys like Browning run systems that fit the talent. I think that's what he did in 2008.

The one exception seems to be Pariani, who tried to run a system that clearly did not fit the talent level. In that instance I can't argue that the system was a real problem.

We throw bubble screens as an option when the numbers are right. We used to decide to do it before the snap

 

[Millhouse]

Hey!

We don't catch well on the outside!

What should we do?

I know!

Lets get a high priced WR coach!!

Actually, the answer is getting a WR who can catch.

Spend the money on an offensive head coach and stop pretending like we'll excel on defense

I'm very happy

 

[OrangeDW]

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a bit.

But, the fact is that we won the game yesterday utilizing the same inside tackle series that Ben Schwartzwalder was running in 1970 with Randy Zur at QB.

We threw a lot of bubble screens - the same thing Spence did in 2009 and that Joe Tiller was doing more than twenty years ago.

But, our vertical passing was pretty unimpressive.

The fact is that played and beat a bad football team. We had more talent on the field and that - not the system - is what normally wins games.

Experienced guys like Browning run systems that fit the talent. I think that's what he did in 2008.

The one exception seems to be Pariani, who tried to run a system that clearly did not fit the talent level. In that instance I can't argue that the system was a real problem.

You don’t see the difference between the bubble screens Spence ran and what we were doing yesterday?

There’s a reason they were almost always blown up for no gain when Spence was here and why they were going for 10 yards or more every time yesterday.

 

[upperdeck]

if teams dont honor the bubble then throw it, as long as the block and throw are done its usually a 5-10 yd gain and thats the part you control.. it also helped to block with the blocking WR and run with the running Wr. riley/johnson blocking for custis made no sense. when you go to the 4 WR sets in makes sense to run this more sense the either have to widen the safety or play it 2x2 and then a block and miss becomes a big play. it forces teams to widen up and thats why the middle runs had so many holes.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I thought Dungey threw the bubbles a lot better yesterday. Overall he was really accurate.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Okay, maybe I jumped the gun a bit.

But, the fact is that we won the game yesterday utilizing the same inside tackle series that Ben Schwartzwalder was running in 1970 with Randy Zur at QB.

We threw a lot of bubble screens - the same thing Spence did in 2009 and that Joe Tiller was doing more than twenty years ago.

But, our vertical passing was pretty unimpressive.

The fact is that played and beat a bad football team. We had more talent on the field and that - not the system - is what normally wins games.

Experienced guys like Browning run systems that fit the talent. I think that's what he did in 2008.

The one exception seems to be Pariani, who tried to run a system that clearly did not fit the talent level. In that instance I can't argue that the system was a real problem.

Yeah, look, it's not long ago I was having discussions with people on here that were content to average 24 points a game, thank you very much.

Now we got people mad that we didn't score more than 51.

It's different. This is different.