NCAA Coach Salaries (USA Today)

[All4SU]

Private school. Northeast. Get him up to 25-35 and we’re good.

 

[Ish88888]

$100 gets you in the dome for 6 games with good seats for fball.. $100 gets you 1 game for bball and sometimes like the duke game is $200 to get an awful seat

Good perspective, have always said this building is made for fb and its hard to find a better stadium as far as sight lines. Those $100 seasons are for the most part outside the 30's upstairs and down and its a great deal and close to the action. Yes, there are some horribly priced seats inside the 30's that hampers attendance.

Hoops seats are insane with a million poor sight lines.

 

[All4SU]

In BBall, after the first 20K it’s all about being there.

 

[JeffCuse]

I'm just glad we are near 50. I feel like we were down in the 70s when Shafer was here. We've begun to step it up, although surprised we are still only ahead of Wake in the ACC. It does seem that one you get near 3 mill it all becomes relative, unless you are among the top 10-15. I mean, we are head of Notre Dame, right behind Oregon, 300K behind (the real) USC.

I want to keep him, and if we take a big step this year (so far so good), I would support an increase, maybe into the top 30-35 or so. Hopefully we can sell a few thousand more tickets a game to pay for it.

And that Rutgers buyout is stupid silly

 

[721Comstock]

I'm just glad we are near 50. I feel like we were down in the 70s when Shafer was here. We've begun to step it up, although surprised we are still only ahead of Wake in the ACC. It does seem that one you get near 3 mill it all becomes relative, unless you are among the top 10-15. I mean, we are head of Notre Dame, right behind Oregon, 300K behind (the real) USC.

I want to keep him, and if we take a big step this year (so far so good), I would support an increase, maybe into the top 30-35 or so. Hopefully we can sell a few thousand more tickets a game to pay for it.

And that Rutgers buyout is stupid silly

We didn't pay Shafer much, because we didn't have to. We weren't competing against anybody else.
He was a 1st time HC, and got paid accordingly. It was a nice bump up from his DC salary.

Dino was/is an experienced HC, and he got a nice raise to come here and coach at the P5 level.
Now that he's proven himself, he should be paid at least the median salary of ACC HC's.

ACC $ is rolling in, and we need to reinvest it in assets that benefit the program.
Dino is now our most valuable asset.

We can use some of the $ we didn't have to pay Boeheim these past 40+ years towards giving Dino what he's worth.

 

[JeffCuse]

We didn't pay Shafer much, because we didn't have to. We weren't competing against anybody else.
He was a 1st time HC, and got paid accordingly. It was a nice bump up from his DC salary.

Dino was/is an experienced HC, and he got a nice raise to come here and coach at the P5 level.
Now that he's proven himself, he should be paid at least the median salary of ACC HC's.

ACC $ is rolling in, and we need to reinvest it in assets that benefit the program.
Dino is now our most valuable asset.

We can use some of the $ we didn't have to pay Boeheim these past 40+ years towards giving Dino what he's worth.

I hear you, and I certainly was not advocating paying Shafer more.

I agree with you, and would hope that we are willing to give Dino a nice bump if we take that step. I would love for him to view Syracuse as his destination and not a stop along the way.

 

[RandomGuy]

So Dino is the 2cnd lowest paid coach in the ACC... bahh.

 

[corpjet]

Is this where I chime in about a D-1 locker room/facilities and not the Frontier League one(s) we currently have??

I know lets hear it, our facilities are just fine.

Heres a friendly reminder of what others have:
Ranking the Top 25 facilities in college football for 2018

Kansas and Kentucky ahead of us in football facilities??? This isn't hoops......

 

[Chip]

Good perspective, have always said this building is made for fb

It was made for football.

 

[anomander]

Is this where I chime in about a D-1 locker room/facilities and not the Frontier League one(s) we currently have??

I know lets hear it, our facilities are just fine.

Heres a friendly reminder of what others have:
Ranking the Top 25 facilities in college football for 2018

Kansas and Kentucky ahead of us in football facilities??? This isn't hoops...

Basically everyone now has a Football only facility. Ours are at least adequate now, but very far down the list. You could easily spruce things up with LED lighting and some paint, but everything is pretty enclosed. Eventually I would love to see a football only facility built in/around the IPF.

 

[MadNY3]

So for 1.5 plus another 1.5 for Staff we can retain Dino. 10k more per game @ 6 games = 60k more per year at even 100.00 per = 6m. Plus publicity ect... No brainer.

We are lucky to have a poster like you that knows the answer to what gets Dino staying long term.

And all we need to do is average near sellouts each week to subsidize it.

 

[Ish88888]

Basically everyone now has a Football only facility. Ours are at least adequate now, but very far down the list. You could easily spruce things up with LED lighting and some paint, but everything is pretty enclosed. Eventually I would love to see a football only facility built in/around the IPF.

Our in dome facilities have been laughable for years and if we didn't pull off the VT win video if Dino , things would probably be the same. Sad thing is these coaches and players have quietly accepted these very below average digs for years and the VT vid was the whistle blower. Unacceptable and just embarrassing for a P5 program.

Yes, its a 38 yo building with a reno on the horizon, but come on. I know, old, classic stadiums, i get it. Anyone see the player interviews from the cubs locker room last night? They are clever and fun and it doesnt take much $$$. Just some clever lighting, some furniture, lockers with nice fonts for the names and some updated color. No reason why we should be soooo behind after 4 years of ACC $$$. Its embarrassing and CAN'T be helping recruiting for the love of God.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Is this where I chime in about a D-1 locker room/facilities and not the Frontier League one(s) we currently have??

I know lets hear it, our facilities are just fine.

Heres a friendly reminder of what others have:
Ranking the Top 25 facilities in college football for 2018

Kansas and Kentucky ahead of us in football facilities??? This isn't hoops...

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every time I have posted about the facilities arms race going on all around us I have been lambasted. Good to see that people are coming around. Fear of losing Dino is changing people's minds about the need to invest heavily in facilities.

 

[SUFan44]

Is this where I chime in about a D-1 locker room/facilities and not the Frontier League one(s) we currently have??

I know lets hear it, our facilities are just fine.

Heres a friendly reminder of what others have:
Ranking the Top 25 facilities in college football for 2018

Kansas and Kentucky ahead of us in football facilities??? This isn't hoops...

We have an indoor practice facility that was just built.

The Dome will be re-done shortly -- and the locker room was just re-done there (the social media/viral videos are proof). Until the Dome is re-done, how much more can you do with the locker room?

Syracuse does not have unlimited funds. They are doing what they can and are going to do more.

Biggest factor right now is attendance. Dino just said so, basically. Let's get 40K+ for the final 3 home games and go from there. The arrow is moving in the right direction.

 

[kcsu]

Paying Dino and his staff an extra 3 million a year isnt even a rounding error for SU. The publicity that he has generated is worth that alone.

 

[kcsu]

We are lucky to have a poster like you that knows the answer to what gets Dino staying long term.

And all we need to do is average near sellouts each week to subsidize it.

Since you liked my post so much here is another treat for you.
SU cost about 70k per undergraduate student per year. Assuming each student is only out of pocket 50% SU would need to have an increase of around 90 new Frosh to pay for the staffs increase. Of course if you add in the money those kids and their parents will spend on SU products and services over the four years its probably closer to 50 or 60 new Frosh.

 

[kcsu]

We are lucky to have a poster like you that knows the answer to what gets Dino staying long term.

And all we need to do is average near sellouts each week to subsidize it.

Because you have inspired me i have one more gem for you.
ESPN charges about 40k for a 30 second spot. The networks 100k and up. Worse case scenario SU would only have to recieve the equivalent of 75 30 second spots on ESPN over the course of an entire year to pay for the staffs increase. I wonder what the value of his post victory speeches going viral is worth. My point is simple. Regardless of if it comes from increased attendance, enrollment, or publicity value a 3m increased investment in Dino and his staff will be covered in spades. Im sure that JW gets this and i fully expect that the wheels are in motion to do everything possible to retain him.

 

[bozophobe]

Does anyone have an understanding of how S.U.'s endowment plays into all this? I have no clue how it works, but often hear they are as well off as any top school in that regard. Say (for example), they have 2 billion conservatively invested for a 2.5% return; that would be about 50 million (pre-tax) annually. And then other income on top of that (tuition, licensing, tv, nacho cheese sludge mark-up, etc.). If they can budget a few hundred million now and then for major upgrades, what would prevent them from keeping up with median pay rates, at least?

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

So Dino is the 2cnd lowest paid coach in the ACC... bahh.

Where do we factor in that we've been the worst team?

I get it, everyone wants to keep Dino, me too, but people need to recognize two things (some here probably will refuse to do so):

• We will never compete with football factories for coaches salaries and facilities (and thus we can't compete for coaches). In addition to simply not having the resources to do so, it is antithetical to the culture of private universities, particularly in the Northeast. Just for giggles, anyone ever consider how funny it would be if the Ivy's and their massive endowments got serious about athletics?
• How much do you pay a guy to win 6-7-8 games? Even with Dino, that's about what we are looking at. So what if you have a random 9-10 win season, the revenues are pretty much already baked in. At some point, the University is getting diminishing returns.

In my opinion, I extend him another 3-4 years. A bowl gets that extension to the mid, upper 3s. No bowl and I'd stick him in the low threes. That's enough to let his successor know we're serious (only a matter of time, regardless of extension).

 

[RandomGuy]

I believe we were #2 in ROI. There may be more capital than folks think.

I'd prefer to see him in the upper half of the ACC, with an extension and hefty buyout.

I believe the 2018 class bought into Dino's vision, despite his 1st 4-8 season. I think the 2019 class is a bit tougher, because the 2cnd 4-8. Win 8/9, and I think the 2020 could be another good one. At that point, I think the ball is fully rolling, and I'd love to see what happens.

In regards to facilities, the dome is unique, and the remodel may carry some weight with recruits. In a place like Michigan, players are put in regular, small dorm rooms. At least our guys get an apartment, even if they're not the best. I think lots of the players move onto fancier digs, after their 1st year.

 

[RandomGuy]

In regards to future salary... If you believe we will be regularly bowl eligible, those payouts are over $2 mil, a year. (Pinstripe, Music City, etc.) That's in addition to other financial games that are realized by having a decent program.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

In regards to future salary... If you believe we will be regularly bowl eligible, those payouts are over $2 mil, a year. (Pinstripe, Music City, etc.) That's in addition to other financial games that are realized by having a decent program.

I dont think it works that way. I believe, with the exception of the playoff/title games, the bowl money is all compiled and divy-ed up, conference-wide. ACC also fronts the costs for travel for participating teams. In general, i agree on getting paydays to play better teams, but Dino is not doing that.

 

[elimunelson]

Does anyone have an understanding of how S.U.'s endowment plays into all this? I have no clue how it works, but often hear they are as well off as any top school in that regard. Say (for example), they have 2 billion conservatively invested for a 2.5% return; that would be about 50 million (pre-tax) annually. And then other income on top of that (tuition, licensing, tv, nacho cheese sludge mark-up, etc.). If they can budget a few hundred million now and then for major upgrades, what would prevent them from keeping up with median pay rates, at least?

the endowment, IMO, should never ever be used for athletics. It should go to academics, scholarships, buildings, etc. Athletics should support themselves with their own ecosystem of ticket sales, conference payouts, bowl games, merchandise.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[storange]

Thanks Chris,
Really important piece of info at this point in season.