NCAA files suit

[mscanlo]

No, I got it. My point is it's irrelevant to the argument.

I do think it played a factor.

in my opinion, when Shabazz Napier (in addition to some other players saying similar things even prior to that), after winning a national championship said "I go to bed starving", it changed a lot of things and the NCAA/schools started to act (e.g. food and drinks started to be offered 24/7)

 

[djcon57]

I do think it played a factor.

in my opinion, when Shabazz Napier (in addition to some other players saying similar things even prior to that), after winning a national championship said "I go to bed starving", it changed a lot of things and the NCAA/schools started to act (e.g. food and drinks started to be offered 24/7)

You said "my point was, does it necessarily make their life better"

In the example above, yes, I think offering food and drink makes their life better.

I thought you were referring to the NIL stuff and the big money, in which you suggested they could be broke, etc. My feeling is the end result doesnt really matter.

 

[mscanlo]

You said "my point was, does it necessarily make their life better"

In the example above, yes, I think offering food and drink makes their life better.

I thought you were referring to the NIL stuff and the big money, in which you suggested they could be broke, etc. My feeling is the end result doesnt really matter.

I was referring to NIL. in my opinion, Shabazz's comment opened a door, that enabled another door to later be open, which is NIL, combined with Ed O's lawsuit

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I mean, centralized control is basically the model for every U.S. pro league.

This was always cracks me up because you'd have to search pretty long to find something more socialized than the NFL. Hard salary cap, equally shared revenue, public funding for venues, etc.

Yes, it's very telling how the ultra rich NFL owners actually prefer socialism.

 

[All4SU]

We have already killed off so many college sports. Let’s just go all the way. Football and basketball. Who needs anything else!

 

[Newhouser]

I was referring to NIL. in my opinion, Shabazz's comment opened a door, that enabled another door to later be open, which is NIL, combined with Ed O's lawsuit

I agree Napier saying it opened some eyes and ears - wasn't it proven to be bunk too as I thought I read he had 24/7 access to food at the UCONN hoop facility.

 

[mscanlo]

I agree Napier saying it opened some eyes and ears - wasn't it proven to be bunk too as I thought I read he had 24/7 access to food at the UCONN hoop facility.

Yeah, I believe you are right.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I don't see why they don't go to an amateur and club model. Seems like an easy solution. Amateur sports no TV and can only charge general admission to games. Athletes are students on scholarships. Club sports athletes are not students (but can be if they chose). They get paid as professionals. Schools can make as much money as they want. Since Clubs have nothing to do with academics, would it even fall under Title IX?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I don't see why they don't go to an amateur and club model. Seems like an easy solution. Amateur sports no TV and can only charge general admission to games. Athletes are students on scholarships. Club sports athletes are not students (but can be if they chose). They get paid as professionals. Schools can make as much money as they want. Since Clubs have nothing to do with academics, would it even fall under Title IX?

 

[TheCusian]

the money is coming in for a few sports. But the courts have ruled you need somewhat equal benefits. If they start to pay will it need to be equal ? are we gonna have 100 fball players and then 100 women playing sports and thats it

Revenue generating sports would break free from the university and be their own business licensing the logo, etc. Non-revenue would stay under the auspice of the university athletic dept.

 

[Hoo's That]

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Maybe they don't. And maybe we don't need high-stakes, Division 1 athletics. I'm pretty sure no other country in the world has outsourced the highest developmental level of it's most popular sport to academic institutions. It's pretty freakin' weird, really.

It wasn't really farmed out as much as it "just happened that way" because the pro leagues in football and basketball were formed well after colleges were playing the sports. Compare the structure of pro baseball to those two sports. Plus, soccer in Europe, especially the UK, was viewed as a working-class diversion, not one for the upper crust in universities, which mostly don't have athletic or phys ed departments. The main sports for the UK's elites, cricket and rugby, didn't turn pro until after the soccer model was well established.

 

[Hoo's That]

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maybe the NCAA get the professional leagues to all agree to let athletes in at any age, instead of forcing them to go and stay in the NCAA?

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Football would have to form a minor league similar to the G League because of physical safety. It's dangerous for a 30-year-old to run into an 18-year-old at full speed. The nature of basketball and baseball lets them successfully operate with a mixed ages 18 and up.

 

[JustPherU]

How old is the G league? How old is college sports? Not a great comparison.
“Educated” people go bankrupt all the time. “Uneducated” people amass fortunes. A college degree has nothing to do with it.

Lincoln, McGovern, John Connolly, Henry Ford, Walt Disney, Larry King, and other notables, many of whom were highly educated, went bankrupt.
Bankruptcy is not an end, it’s a re-set.

College degrees are becoming less and less valuable with technology and the vast amount of information available for free. The idea that you need to go to college to be successful is antiquated. If you want to be in a profession, then yes, but even that will probably change. Why shouldn’t someone be able to intern, or apprentice, then pass a competency exam.

Why do doctors have to go to undergraduate school? I really don’t care if my doctor took English Literature so she could be more well rounded. I care if she can fix me.

Why should anyone care if someone outside their family/friends goes bankrupt? It doesn’t impact you.

Don’t let school interfere with your education