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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
(This is through the Connecticut game of 2/25/12. Previous numbers were through the Eastern Michigan game of 11/29/11, the DePaul game of 1/1/12 and the West Virginia game of 1/28/12)
CENTERS
Fab Melo (His minutes per game are for 20 games due to his academic suspension- or whatever this is.)
24.6M 12.8P 9.2R 1.0A 0.7S 5.0B = 28.7+ 4.0mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 4.8pf = 12.2- = 16.5NP 7.1OE 8.8FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.6M 12.7P 10.0R 1.2A 0.8S 5.3B = 30.0+ 4.3mfg 1.2mft 2.7to 5.2pf = 13.4- = 16.6NP 7.2OE 9.4FG
After December
22.9M 12.5P 9.6R 1.2A 0.9S 5.5B = 29.7+ 4.3MFG 1.3MFT 2.3TO 4.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 6.9OE 10.5FG
After November
21.4M 10.9P 9.6R 1.1A 1.1S 4.8B = 27.5+ 5.1MFG 1.9MFT 2.7TO 5.1PF = 14.8- = 14.8NP 3.9OE 8.8FG
Rakeem Christmas (I’ll list him among the centers for now- I think that‘s what he really is)
10.9M 9.8P 10.0R 0.7A 1.1S 2.6B = 24.2+ 3.1MFG 1.2MFT 2.4TO 6.2PF = 12.9- = 11.3NP 5.5OE 5.8FG
Previous numbers:
After January
12.8M 10.3P 9.9R 0.4A 1.2S 2.6B = 24.4+ 3.3MFG 1.1MFT 2.3TO 6.4PF = 13.1- = 11.3NP 5.9OE 5.4FG
After December
12.6M 11.6P 9.3R 0.2A 1.5S 2.5B = 25.1+ 3.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 6.3PF = 13.8- = 11.3NP 7.1OE 4.2FG
After November
14.9M 11.5P 10.4R 0.4A 1.2S 1.5B = 25.0+ 3.1MFG 0.8MFT 2.7TO 7.6PF = 12.8- = 12.2NP 7.6OE 4.7FG
Baye Moussa Keita
11.8M 7.8P 8.0R 0.2A 0.8S 3.2B = 20.0+ 1.0MFG 0.8MFT 1.1TO 6.2PF = 9.1- = 10.9NP 6.0OE 4.9FG
Previous numbers:
After January
12.9M 8.2P 8.4R 0.3A 0.7S 3.4B = 21.0+ 1.1MFG 0.7MFT 1.2TO 5.8PF = 8.8- = 12.2NP 6.4OE 5.8FG
After December
11.5M 10.5P 8.8R 0.5A 0.7S 3.7B = 24.2+ 1.4MFG 1.2MFT 0.9TO 6.0PF = 9.5- = 14.7NP 7.9OE 6.8FG
After November
11.7M 13.7P 10.2R 0.5A 1.0S 3.9B = 29.3+ 0.5MFG 1.5MFT 1.0TO 7.8PF = 10.8- = 18.5NP 11.7OE 6.8FG
Comment: The production of the back-up centers had declined and Rakeem isn’t even being used as one any more. He just gets his two minutes as the starting power forward. So we are riding the Melo train so long as he remains healthy and out of foul trouble. His foul average has gone down but if we suddenly need to go to Melo or Keita, we could be in trouble. (Note: Fab Melo’s minutes are per 27 games because that’s all he was available for.)
FORWARDS
Kris Joseph
31.2M 18.2P 6.5R 2.1A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.9MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.8 = 16.6NP 9.1OE 7.5FG
Previous numbers:
After January
30.2M 18.1P 6.3R 2.4A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.7MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.6 = 16.8NP 9.2OE 7.6FG
After December
28.9M 19.4P 7.2R 2.3A 1.8S 0.8B = 31.5+ 8.6MFG 1.0MFT 1.5TO 2.0PF = 13.1- = 18.4NP 9.8OE 8.6FG
After November
27.1M 21.7P 8.4R 1.9A 2.1S 0.2B = 34.3+ 8.2MFG 1.3MFT 1.9TO 2.9PF = 14.3- = 20.0NP 12.2OE 7.8FG
CJ Fair
27.3M 13.5P 8.2R 1.5A 1.7S 0.9B = 25.8+ 5.5MFG 1.1MFT 1.2TO 2.1PF = 9.9- = 15.9NP 6.9OE 9.0FG
Previous numbers:
After January
25.1M 13.2P 8.1R 1.4A 1.7S 0.8B = 25.2+ 5.6MFG 1.2MFT 1.4TO 2.0PF = 10.2- = 15.0NP 6.4OE 8.9FG
After December
24.1M 13.5P 8.4R 1.3A 1.9S 0.6B = 25.7+ 5.2MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 1.8PF = 9.2- = 16.5NP 7.6OE 8.9FG
After November
24.1M 13.5P 9.9R 1.4A 2.4S 0.7B = 27.9+ 5.2MFG 1.2MFT 1.9TO 1.9PF = 10.2- = 17.7NP 7.1OE 10.6FG
James Southerland
Previous numbers:
15.1M 17.4P 7.5R 1.1A 2.5S 2.0B = 30.5+ 8.2MFG 0.7MFT 0.9TO 3.2PF = 13.0- = 17.5NP 8.5OE 9.0FG
After January
16.7M 18.5P 7.9R 1.0A 2.1S 2.1B = 31.6+ 7.6MFG 0.8MFT 0.9TO 3.0PF = 12.3- = 19.3NP 10.1OE 9.2FG
After December
16.3M 20.7P 8.0R 1.6A 2.9S 2.3B = 35.5+ 6.2MFG 1.1MFT 0.8TO 2.1PF = 10.2- = 25.3NP 13.4OE 11.9FG
After November
16.4M 25.7P 8.7R 2.1A 3.8S 1.7B = 42.0+ 6.3MFG 0.3MFT 0.3TO 1.4PF = 8.3- = 33.7NP 19.1OE 14.6FG
Comment: Is James Southerland the best player on the team? He ahs the highest NP per 40 average. Obviously he isn’t. He’s a guy who got off ot a great start in all departments and arguably was our best player in November. Since then his shooting has evaporated and because CJ Fair can do everything else better, (although James is more than just a shooter), James’ playing time has shrunk to the point of being a reserve not really in the ’rotation’ any more. When you are in that position, you are on a short leash. If you play well, you will stay in. If not, you get yanked and may not be coming back in. That type of reserve will have inflated numbers because a majority of his minutes will be when he was playing well. He’s not left in when playing poorly to have extended minutes playing at that level. Thus, James still has the most productive average on the team, even though his performance has declined badly as the season went along. Since the Big East season began, (basically “After December” here are his numbers:
14.2M 14.3P 7.5R 0.3A 1.7S 1.5B= 25.3+ 10.1MFG 0.3.MFT 1.0TO 4.0PF= 15.4- = 9.9NP 3.9OE 6.0FG
That’s the James Southerland we have now. The big changes: far more misses, far fewer points and also fewer assists.
GUARDS
Scoop Jardine
24.6M 14.4P 3.9R 8.1A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.0+ 6.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.4- = 16.6NP 6.9OE 9.7FG
Previous numbers:
After January
23.0M 14.8P 3.7R 8.6A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.7+ 5.7MFG 1.7MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 7.4OE 9.9FG
After December
21.3M 16.1P 4.9R 7.3A 3.3S 0.1B = 31.7+ 5.6MFG 1.6MFT 3.9TO 1.3PF = 12.4- = 19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After November
18.4M 15.2P 2.4R 9.0A 3.7S 0.0B = 30.3+ 6.5MFG 2.5MFT 3.7TO 0.9PF = 13.6- = 16.7NP 6.2OE 10.5FG
Brandon Triche
22.0M 16.5P 4.3R 4.8A 2.0S 0.2B = 27.8+ 8.1MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.3PF = 13.3- = 14.5NP 7.9OE 6.6FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.4M 18.3P 4.3R 5.1A 2.3S 0.3B = 30.3+ 7.9MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.2PF = 13.0- = 17.3NP 9.9OE 8.4FG
After December
21.5M 18.3P 4.0R 5.7A 2.1S 0.4B = 30.5+ 8.7MFG 0.5MFT 2.6TO 2.5PF = 14.3- = 16.2NP 9.1OE 7.1FG
After November
21.9M 20.1P 4.4R 6.5A 1.8S 0.5B = 33.3+ 8.6MFG 0.5MFT 3.9TO 2.1PF = 15.1- = 18.2NP 11.0OE 7.2FG
Dion Waiters
23.5M 20.2P 3.9R 4.4A 3.3S 0.6B = 32.4+ 8.6MFG 1.6MFT 2.3TO 2.8PF = 15.3- = 17.1NP 10.0OE 7.1FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.5M 21.8P 3.2R 4.6A 4.0S 0.7B = 34.3+ 8.6MFG 1.5MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 15.5- = 18.8NP 11.7OE 7.1FG
After December
21.3M 23.6P 3.1R 5.1A 4.0S 0.5B = 36.3+ 8.0MFG 1.5MFT 2.8TO 2.6PF = 14.9- = 21.4NP 14.1OE 7.3FG
After November
22.4M 21.1P 2.8R 6.1A 4.1S 0.8B = 34.9+ 8.4MFG 1.8MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 15.8- = 19.1NP 10.9OE 8.2FG
Michael Carter-Willliams (His mintue4s per game are based on 30 games: he may ahve been in the dog house but he was available to play)
8.6M 10.7P 5.8R 7.8A 2.8S 1.1B = 28.2+ 5.0MFG 1.4MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 12.0- = 16.2NP +4.3OE +11.90FG
Previous numbers:
After January:
10.0M 9.3P 5.6R 7.9A 3.0S 1.0B = 26.8+ 5.4MFG 1.6MFT 2.4TO 3.1PF = 12.5- = 14.3NP +2.3OE +12.0FG
After December
12.9M 8.5P 5.6R 8.1A 3.1S 1.2B = 26.5+ 5.8MFG 1.7MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 13.6- = 13.6NP +1.0OE +12.6FG
After November
13.3M 6.9P 6.0R 7.7A 3.9S 1.3B = 25.8+ 7.3MFG 0.9MFT 3.4TO 3.0PF = 14.6- = 11.2NP -1.3OE 12.5FG
Mookie Jones has left the program and played only 38 minutes this season- my cut off for numbers from past seasons is 100 minutes- so I’m not including his numbers.
Comments: This team has several strengths but maybe the most important is the backcourt where we have three veteran players who share time and a highly talented reserve. The top three guys called suffered performance declines in February In the cases of Scoop Jardine and Dion Waiters, their floor games remained at about the same level. Scoop’s offensive efficiency declined slightly (-0.5) but Dion’s fell by -1.7. Brandon Triche suffered in both areas (-2.0OE, -1.8FG). MCW is the least efficient at putting the ball in the basket himself, (4.3OE) but he has the best floor game of all (11.9FG)
FAMOUS SU PLAYERS OF THE PAST
(1983-84 onward and only their best NP year represented)
CENTERS
Rony Seikaly 27.1m 22.2p 12.0r 1.4a 1.1s 3.0b 39.7+ 6.4mfg 3.7mft 2.9to 4.3pf 17.3- = 22.4NP 12.1OE 10.3FG (1986-87)
LeRon Ellis 29.0m 15.3p 10.6r 1.9a 2.7s 3.4b +33.9 5.9mfg 2.0mft 1.9to 4.7pf -14.5 = 19.4NP 7.4OE 12.0FG (1990-91)
Conrad McRae 30.0m 16.4p 9.2r 0.6a 1.6s 3.6b +31.4 4.9mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 4.3pf -12.3 = 19.1NP 10.5OE 8.6FG (1992-93)
Otis Hill 29.3m 21.3p 8.3r 1.2a 2.3s 1.5b +34.6 7.1mfg 2.3mft 2.7to 4.7pf -16.8 = 17.8NP 8.4OE 9.4FG (1996-97)
Etan Thomas 27.7m 17.7p 10.6r 0.7a 1.2s 5.7b +35.9 4.0mfg 3.5mft 2.5to 4.0pf -14.0 = 21.9NP 10.2OE 11.7FG (1999-2000)
Craig Forth 23.2m 9.8p 10.0r 1.2a 1.0s 3.5b 25.5+ 3.3mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 4.8pf 11.0- = 14.5NP 5.8OE 8.7FG (2003-04)
Darryl Watkins 29.1m 11.1p 10.4r 1.0a 1.7s 4.7b 28.9+ 3.4mfg 1.9mft 2.1to 4.9pf 12.3- = 16.6NP 5.8OE 10.8FG (2006-07)
Arinze Onuaku 22.8M 18.5P 9.0r 1.1a 1.6s 1.9b 32.0+ 4.2mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 4.7pf 13.5- = 18.5NP 12.1OE 6.4FG (2009-10)
FORWARDS
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1,fg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- = 20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG (1985-86)
Wendell Alexis 31.8m 19.1p 9.3r 2.0a 1.7s 1.3b 33.4+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.2to 3.6pf 13.1- = 20.3NP 11.8OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Derrick Coleman 33.1m 20.4p 13.8r 3.5a 1.5s 4.1b 43.3+ 5.5mfg 2.5mft 2.9to 3.9pf 14.8- = 28.5NP 12.4OE 16.1FG (1988-89)
Billy Owens 38.0m 24.5p 12.2r 3.6a 2.6s 1.2b +44.1 9.0mfg 2.5mft 3.7to 2.8pf -18.0 = 26.1NP 13.0OE 13.1FG (1990-91)
Dave Johnson 34.9m 22.2p 7.2r 2.7a 1.8s 0.1b +34.0 8.1mfg 2.4mft 2.4to 2.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.7OE 6.6FG (1990-91)
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG (1993-94)
John Wallace 33.0m 20.4p 9.9r 3.1a 1.6s 2.2b +37.2 5.6mfg 2.0mft 3.7to 3.2pf -14.5 = 22.7NP 12.8OE 9.9FG (1994-95)
Todd Burgan 36.7m 19.2p 7.7r 3.6a 2.2s 0.2b +32.9 9.0mfg 1.6mft 3.2to 2.9pf -16.7 = 16.2NP 8.6OE 7.6FG (1997-98)
Ryan Blackwell 35.0m 14.4p 9.4r 2.6a 1.6s 0.4b +28.4 5.8mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.3pf -12.6 = 17.2NP 7.0OE 10.2FG (1997-98)
Eric Williams 12.5m 17.8p 10.9r 3.2a 2.3s 0.9b +35.1 5.9mfg 0.7mft 4.1to 4.3pf -15.0 = 20.1NP 11.2OE 8.9FG (1998-99)
Damone Brown 35.9m 18.3p 9.8r 2.1a 1.9s 1.6b +33.7 7.3mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 3.0pf -13.7 = 20.0NP 9.9OE 10.1FG (2000-01)
Preston Shumpert 36.9m 22.4p 6.6r 2.5a 2.0s 0.5b +34.0 10.1mfg 1.0mft 2.8to 1.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.3OE 7.0FG (2001-02)
Carmelo Anthony 36.4m 24.4p 11.0r 2.4a 1.7s 0.9b +40.4 10.5mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 2.4pf -17.5 = 22.9NP 11.7OE 11.2FG (2002-03)
Hakim Warrick 37.5m 22.8p 9.2r 1.6a 1.0s 0.8b 35.4+ 6.6mfg 3.1mft 2.7to 2.5pf 14.9- = 20.5NP 13.1OE 7.4FG (2004-05)
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- = 16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG (2004-05)
Demetris Nichols 34.8m 21.8p 6.2r 1.8a 1.6s 1.2b 32.6+ 9.1mfg 0.7mft 2.5to 2.4pf 14.7- = 17.9NP 12.0OE 5.9FG (2006-07)
Donte Greene 35.8m 19.8p 8.0r 2.3a 1.4s 1.8b 33.3+ 9.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9to 3.2pf 17.0- = 16.3NP 8.9OE 7.4FG (2007-08)
Paul Harris 30.5m 15.8p 10.5r 2.8a 1.3s 0.9b 31.3+ 5.6mfg 1.5mft 2.8to 2.5pf 12.4- = 18.9NP 8.7OE 10.2FG (2008-09)
Wes Johnson 35.0m 18.9p 9.8r 2.5a 1.9s 2.1b 35.2+ 6.7mfg 1.1mft 2.6to 2.4pf 12.8- = 22.4NP 11.1OE 11.6FG (2009-10)
Rick Jackson
35.6m 14.7p 11.6r 2.5a 1.5s 2.8b 33.1+ 4.3mfg 2.1mft 2.3to 2.3pf 11.0- = 22.1NP 8.3OE 13.8FG (2010-11)
GUARDS
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG (1986-87)
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG (1988-89)
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG (1993-94)
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 = 11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG (1995-96)
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 = 12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG (1998-99)
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG (2005-06)
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG (2003-04)
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- = 13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG (2008-09)
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- = 16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG (2008-09)
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- = 15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG (2009-10)
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
(This is through the Connecticut game of 2/25/12. Previous numbers were through the Eastern Michigan game of 11/29/11, the DePaul game of 1/1/12 and the West Virginia game of 1/28/12)
CENTERS
Fab Melo (His minutes per game are for 20 games due to his academic suspension- or whatever this is.)
24.6M 12.8P 9.2R 1.0A 0.7S 5.0B = 28.7+ 4.0mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 4.8pf = 12.2- = 16.5NP 7.1OE 8.8FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.6M 12.7P 10.0R 1.2A 0.8S 5.3B = 30.0+ 4.3mfg 1.2mft 2.7to 5.2pf = 13.4- = 16.6NP 7.2OE 9.4FG
After December
22.9M 12.5P 9.6R 1.2A 0.9S 5.5B = 29.7+ 4.3MFG 1.3MFT 2.3TO 4.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 6.9OE 10.5FG
After November
21.4M 10.9P 9.6R 1.1A 1.1S 4.8B = 27.5+ 5.1MFG 1.9MFT 2.7TO 5.1PF = 14.8- = 14.8NP 3.9OE 8.8FG
Rakeem Christmas (I’ll list him among the centers for now- I think that‘s what he really is)
10.9M 9.8P 10.0R 0.7A 1.1S 2.6B = 24.2+ 3.1MFG 1.2MFT 2.4TO 6.2PF = 12.9- = 11.3NP 5.5OE 5.8FG
Previous numbers:
After January
12.8M 10.3P 9.9R 0.4A 1.2S 2.6B = 24.4+ 3.3MFG 1.1MFT 2.3TO 6.4PF = 13.1- = 11.3NP 5.9OE 5.4FG
After December
12.6M 11.6P 9.3R 0.2A 1.5S 2.5B = 25.1+ 3.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 6.3PF = 13.8- = 11.3NP 7.1OE 4.2FG
After November
14.9M 11.5P 10.4R 0.4A 1.2S 1.5B = 25.0+ 3.1MFG 0.8MFT 2.7TO 7.6PF = 12.8- = 12.2NP 7.6OE 4.7FG
Baye Moussa Keita
11.8M 7.8P 8.0R 0.2A 0.8S 3.2B = 20.0+ 1.0MFG 0.8MFT 1.1TO 6.2PF = 9.1- = 10.9NP 6.0OE 4.9FG
Previous numbers:
After January
12.9M 8.2P 8.4R 0.3A 0.7S 3.4B = 21.0+ 1.1MFG 0.7MFT 1.2TO 5.8PF = 8.8- = 12.2NP 6.4OE 5.8FG
After December
11.5M 10.5P 8.8R 0.5A 0.7S 3.7B = 24.2+ 1.4MFG 1.2MFT 0.9TO 6.0PF = 9.5- = 14.7NP 7.9OE 6.8FG
After November
11.7M 13.7P 10.2R 0.5A 1.0S 3.9B = 29.3+ 0.5MFG 1.5MFT 1.0TO 7.8PF = 10.8- = 18.5NP 11.7OE 6.8FG
Comment: The production of the back-up centers had declined and Rakeem isn’t even being used as one any more. He just gets his two minutes as the starting power forward. So we are riding the Melo train so long as he remains healthy and out of foul trouble. His foul average has gone down but if we suddenly need to go to Melo or Keita, we could be in trouble. (Note: Fab Melo’s minutes are per 27 games because that’s all he was available for.)
FORWARDS
Kris Joseph
31.2M 18.2P 6.5R 2.1A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.9MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.8 = 16.6NP 9.1OE 7.5FG
Previous numbers:
After January
30.2M 18.1P 6.3R 2.4A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.7MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.6 = 16.8NP 9.2OE 7.6FG
After December
28.9M 19.4P 7.2R 2.3A 1.8S 0.8B = 31.5+ 8.6MFG 1.0MFT 1.5TO 2.0PF = 13.1- = 18.4NP 9.8OE 8.6FG
After November
27.1M 21.7P 8.4R 1.9A 2.1S 0.2B = 34.3+ 8.2MFG 1.3MFT 1.9TO 2.9PF = 14.3- = 20.0NP 12.2OE 7.8FG
CJ Fair
27.3M 13.5P 8.2R 1.5A 1.7S 0.9B = 25.8+ 5.5MFG 1.1MFT 1.2TO 2.1PF = 9.9- = 15.9NP 6.9OE 9.0FG
Previous numbers:
After January
25.1M 13.2P 8.1R 1.4A 1.7S 0.8B = 25.2+ 5.6MFG 1.2MFT 1.4TO 2.0PF = 10.2- = 15.0NP 6.4OE 8.9FG
After December
24.1M 13.5P 8.4R 1.3A 1.9S 0.6B = 25.7+ 5.2MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 1.8PF = 9.2- = 16.5NP 7.6OE 8.9FG
After November
24.1M 13.5P 9.9R 1.4A 2.4S 0.7B = 27.9+ 5.2MFG 1.2MFT 1.9TO 1.9PF = 10.2- = 17.7NP 7.1OE 10.6FG
James Southerland
Previous numbers:
15.1M 17.4P 7.5R 1.1A 2.5S 2.0B = 30.5+ 8.2MFG 0.7MFT 0.9TO 3.2PF = 13.0- = 17.5NP 8.5OE 9.0FG
After January
16.7M 18.5P 7.9R 1.0A 2.1S 2.1B = 31.6+ 7.6MFG 0.8MFT 0.9TO 3.0PF = 12.3- = 19.3NP 10.1OE 9.2FG
After December
16.3M 20.7P 8.0R 1.6A 2.9S 2.3B = 35.5+ 6.2MFG 1.1MFT 0.8TO 2.1PF = 10.2- = 25.3NP 13.4OE 11.9FG
After November
16.4M 25.7P 8.7R 2.1A 3.8S 1.7B = 42.0+ 6.3MFG 0.3MFT 0.3TO 1.4PF = 8.3- = 33.7NP 19.1OE 14.6FG
Comment: Is James Southerland the best player on the team? He ahs the highest NP per 40 average. Obviously he isn’t. He’s a guy who got off ot a great start in all departments and arguably was our best player in November. Since then his shooting has evaporated and because CJ Fair can do everything else better, (although James is more than just a shooter), James’ playing time has shrunk to the point of being a reserve not really in the ’rotation’ any more. When you are in that position, you are on a short leash. If you play well, you will stay in. If not, you get yanked and may not be coming back in. That type of reserve will have inflated numbers because a majority of his minutes will be when he was playing well. He’s not left in when playing poorly to have extended minutes playing at that level. Thus, James still has the most productive average on the team, even though his performance has declined badly as the season went along. Since the Big East season began, (basically “After December” here are his numbers:
14.2M 14.3P 7.5R 0.3A 1.7S 1.5B= 25.3+ 10.1MFG 0.3.MFT 1.0TO 4.0PF= 15.4- = 9.9NP 3.9OE 6.0FG
That’s the James Southerland we have now. The big changes: far more misses, far fewer points and also fewer assists.
GUARDS
Scoop Jardine
24.6M 14.4P 3.9R 8.1A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.0+ 6.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.4- = 16.6NP 6.9OE 9.7FG
Previous numbers:
After January
23.0M 14.8P 3.7R 8.6A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.7+ 5.7MFG 1.7MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 7.4OE 9.9FG
After December
21.3M 16.1P 4.9R 7.3A 3.3S 0.1B = 31.7+ 5.6MFG 1.6MFT 3.9TO 1.3PF = 12.4- = 19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After November
18.4M 15.2P 2.4R 9.0A 3.7S 0.0B = 30.3+ 6.5MFG 2.5MFT 3.7TO 0.9PF = 13.6- = 16.7NP 6.2OE 10.5FG
Brandon Triche
22.0M 16.5P 4.3R 4.8A 2.0S 0.2B = 27.8+ 8.1MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.3PF = 13.3- = 14.5NP 7.9OE 6.6FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.4M 18.3P 4.3R 5.1A 2.3S 0.3B = 30.3+ 7.9MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.2PF = 13.0- = 17.3NP 9.9OE 8.4FG
After December
21.5M 18.3P 4.0R 5.7A 2.1S 0.4B = 30.5+ 8.7MFG 0.5MFT 2.6TO 2.5PF = 14.3- = 16.2NP 9.1OE 7.1FG
After November
21.9M 20.1P 4.4R 6.5A 1.8S 0.5B = 33.3+ 8.6MFG 0.5MFT 3.9TO 2.1PF = 15.1- = 18.2NP 11.0OE 7.2FG
Dion Waiters
23.5M 20.2P 3.9R 4.4A 3.3S 0.6B = 32.4+ 8.6MFG 1.6MFT 2.3TO 2.8PF = 15.3- = 17.1NP 10.0OE 7.1FG
Previous numbers:
After January
22.5M 21.8P 3.2R 4.6A 4.0S 0.7B = 34.3+ 8.6MFG 1.5MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 15.5- = 18.8NP 11.7OE 7.1FG
After December
21.3M 23.6P 3.1R 5.1A 4.0S 0.5B = 36.3+ 8.0MFG 1.5MFT 2.8TO 2.6PF = 14.9- = 21.4NP 14.1OE 7.3FG
After November
22.4M 21.1P 2.8R 6.1A 4.1S 0.8B = 34.9+ 8.4MFG 1.8MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 15.8- = 19.1NP 10.9OE 8.2FG
Michael Carter-Willliams (His mintue4s per game are based on 30 games: he may ahve been in the dog house but he was available to play)
8.6M 10.7P 5.8R 7.8A 2.8S 1.1B = 28.2+ 5.0MFG 1.4MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 12.0- = 16.2NP +4.3OE +11.90FG
Previous numbers:
After January:
10.0M 9.3P 5.6R 7.9A 3.0S 1.0B = 26.8+ 5.4MFG 1.6MFT 2.4TO 3.1PF = 12.5- = 14.3NP +2.3OE +12.0FG
After December
12.9M 8.5P 5.6R 8.1A 3.1S 1.2B = 26.5+ 5.8MFG 1.7MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 13.6- = 13.6NP +1.0OE +12.6FG
After November
13.3M 6.9P 6.0R 7.7A 3.9S 1.3B = 25.8+ 7.3MFG 0.9MFT 3.4TO 3.0PF = 14.6- = 11.2NP -1.3OE 12.5FG
Mookie Jones has left the program and played only 38 minutes this season- my cut off for numbers from past seasons is 100 minutes- so I’m not including his numbers.
Comments: This team has several strengths but maybe the most important is the backcourt where we have three veteran players who share time and a highly talented reserve. The top three guys called suffered performance declines in February In the cases of Scoop Jardine and Dion Waiters, their floor games remained at about the same level. Scoop’s offensive efficiency declined slightly (-0.5) but Dion’s fell by -1.7. Brandon Triche suffered in both areas (-2.0OE, -1.8FG). MCW is the least efficient at putting the ball in the basket himself, (4.3OE) but he has the best floor game of all (11.9FG)
FAMOUS SU PLAYERS OF THE PAST
(1983-84 onward and only their best NP year represented)
CENTERS
Rony Seikaly 27.1m 22.2p 12.0r 1.4a 1.1s 3.0b 39.7+ 6.4mfg 3.7mft 2.9to 4.3pf 17.3- = 22.4NP 12.1OE 10.3FG (1986-87)
LeRon Ellis 29.0m 15.3p 10.6r 1.9a 2.7s 3.4b +33.9 5.9mfg 2.0mft 1.9to 4.7pf -14.5 = 19.4NP 7.4OE 12.0FG (1990-91)
Conrad McRae 30.0m 16.4p 9.2r 0.6a 1.6s 3.6b +31.4 4.9mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 4.3pf -12.3 = 19.1NP 10.5OE 8.6FG (1992-93)
Otis Hill 29.3m 21.3p 8.3r 1.2a 2.3s 1.5b +34.6 7.1mfg 2.3mft 2.7to 4.7pf -16.8 = 17.8NP 8.4OE 9.4FG (1996-97)
Etan Thomas 27.7m 17.7p 10.6r 0.7a 1.2s 5.7b +35.9 4.0mfg 3.5mft 2.5to 4.0pf -14.0 = 21.9NP 10.2OE 11.7FG (1999-2000)
Craig Forth 23.2m 9.8p 10.0r 1.2a 1.0s 3.5b 25.5+ 3.3mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 4.8pf 11.0- = 14.5NP 5.8OE 8.7FG (2003-04)
Darryl Watkins 29.1m 11.1p 10.4r 1.0a 1.7s 4.7b 28.9+ 3.4mfg 1.9mft 2.1to 4.9pf 12.3- = 16.6NP 5.8OE 10.8FG (2006-07)
Arinze Onuaku 22.8M 18.5P 9.0r 1.1a 1.6s 1.9b 32.0+ 4.2mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 4.7pf 13.5- = 18.5NP 12.1OE 6.4FG (2009-10)
FORWARDS
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1,fg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- = 20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG (1985-86)
Wendell Alexis 31.8m 19.1p 9.3r 2.0a 1.7s 1.3b 33.4+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.2to 3.6pf 13.1- = 20.3NP 11.8OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Derrick Coleman 33.1m 20.4p 13.8r 3.5a 1.5s 4.1b 43.3+ 5.5mfg 2.5mft 2.9to 3.9pf 14.8- = 28.5NP 12.4OE 16.1FG (1988-89)
Billy Owens 38.0m 24.5p 12.2r 3.6a 2.6s 1.2b +44.1 9.0mfg 2.5mft 3.7to 2.8pf -18.0 = 26.1NP 13.0OE 13.1FG (1990-91)
Dave Johnson 34.9m 22.2p 7.2r 2.7a 1.8s 0.1b +34.0 8.1mfg 2.4mft 2.4to 2.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.7OE 6.6FG (1990-91)
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG (1993-94)
John Wallace 33.0m 20.4p 9.9r 3.1a 1.6s 2.2b +37.2 5.6mfg 2.0mft 3.7to 3.2pf -14.5 = 22.7NP 12.8OE 9.9FG (1994-95)
Todd Burgan 36.7m 19.2p 7.7r 3.6a 2.2s 0.2b +32.9 9.0mfg 1.6mft 3.2to 2.9pf -16.7 = 16.2NP 8.6OE 7.6FG (1997-98)
Ryan Blackwell 35.0m 14.4p 9.4r 2.6a 1.6s 0.4b +28.4 5.8mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.3pf -12.6 = 17.2NP 7.0OE 10.2FG (1997-98)
Eric Williams 12.5m 17.8p 10.9r 3.2a 2.3s 0.9b +35.1 5.9mfg 0.7mft 4.1to 4.3pf -15.0 = 20.1NP 11.2OE 8.9FG (1998-99)
Damone Brown 35.9m 18.3p 9.8r 2.1a 1.9s 1.6b +33.7 7.3mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 3.0pf -13.7 = 20.0NP 9.9OE 10.1FG (2000-01)
Preston Shumpert 36.9m 22.4p 6.6r 2.5a 2.0s 0.5b +34.0 10.1mfg 1.0mft 2.8to 1.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.3OE 7.0FG (2001-02)
Carmelo Anthony 36.4m 24.4p 11.0r 2.4a 1.7s 0.9b +40.4 10.5mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 2.4pf -17.5 = 22.9NP 11.7OE 11.2FG (2002-03)
Hakim Warrick 37.5m 22.8p 9.2r 1.6a 1.0s 0.8b 35.4+ 6.6mfg 3.1mft 2.7to 2.5pf 14.9- = 20.5NP 13.1OE 7.4FG (2004-05)
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- = 16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG (2004-05)
Demetris Nichols 34.8m 21.8p 6.2r 1.8a 1.6s 1.2b 32.6+ 9.1mfg 0.7mft 2.5to 2.4pf 14.7- = 17.9NP 12.0OE 5.9FG (2006-07)
Donte Greene 35.8m 19.8p 8.0r 2.3a 1.4s 1.8b 33.3+ 9.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9to 3.2pf 17.0- = 16.3NP 8.9OE 7.4FG (2007-08)
Paul Harris 30.5m 15.8p 10.5r 2.8a 1.3s 0.9b 31.3+ 5.6mfg 1.5mft 2.8to 2.5pf 12.4- = 18.9NP 8.7OE 10.2FG (2008-09)
Wes Johnson 35.0m 18.9p 9.8r 2.5a 1.9s 2.1b 35.2+ 6.7mfg 1.1mft 2.6to 2.4pf 12.8- = 22.4NP 11.1OE 11.6FG (2009-10)
Rick Jackson
35.6m 14.7p 11.6r 2.5a 1.5s 2.8b 33.1+ 4.3mfg 2.1mft 2.3to 2.3pf 11.0- = 22.1NP 8.3OE 13.8FG (2010-11)
GUARDS
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG (1986-87)
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG (1988-89)
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG (1993-94)
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 = 11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG (1995-96)
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 = 12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG (1998-99)
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG (2005-06)
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG (2003-04)
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- = 13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG (2008-09)
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- = 16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG (2008-09)
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- = 15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG (2009-10)
