OrangeXtreme
The Mayor of Dewitt
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OK, bye
Brings back some fond elevator memories.Engel Dan and John Ford Coley.
Horrible choice of font and all Caps to boot. Unreadable. This guy isn’t ready for primetime. How will he help Red with all these bad decisions? We’ll never be able to recruit the DMV with those kinds of fonts! I mean, who are we hiring here?!?I know I'm getting old, but that was a strain on my eyes to read.
This isn’t about red. It’s about the program. The administration presided over the last 10 years and voted to stay the course instead of going outside the JB tree. Unfortunately for Red he IS saddled with this baggage and he knew that when he accepted the job.One year for Red. Can’t saddle him with Jim’s last 9 years.
I'm not talking 'bout moving inEngel Dan and John Ford Coley.
Oh, I meant more in terms of waiting to read up on his background, strengths, why Red picked him, and what specific problems he's going to be tasked with solving.The problem is we’ve been waiting 10 years to be rewarded with faith, hope, and trust. 10 years seems like 84.
And all the same ones who want alumis to fill every coaching position as well. Like why? I’d rather have outside influence and different ideas that can help us win.there are a lot of D1 college wannabe coaches here...i mean there are people who wanted to bring in DC for effs sake...you cant make this up
Agreed. Just shows you the how Red knows what he is doing and is adapting to how the game needs to be played now with recruiting, portal, NIL, etc. if JB were here there is no doubt Nichols or someone like that would have been Gmacs replacementAnd all the same ones who want alumis to fill every coaching position as well. Like why? I’d rather have outside influence and different ideas that can help us win.
I don’t get this idea that we have had 10 years of horrific tortured losing SU basketball. No doubt we have had issues in JB’s latter years particularly with recruiting but the length of time keeps expanding in people’s posts. 10 years ago was 2014. We made the NCAA’s in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2021. For us making just half the NCAA tournaments is disappointing, because we’ve been spoiled by so much extreme success almost every year of his long tenure here. We tend to eliminate that it included a final 4, 2 Sweet 16’s in those 5 appearances.The problem is we’ve been waiting 10 years to be rewarded with faith, hope, and trust. 10 years seems like 84.
2014 | #3 | Second round Third round | #14 Western Michigan #11 Dayton | W 77–53 L 53–55 |
2016 | #10 | First round Second round Sweet Sixteen Elite Eight Final Four | #7 Dayton #15 Middle Tennessee State #11 Gonzaga #1 Virginia #1 North Carolina | W 70–51 W 75–50 W 63–60 W 68–62 L 66–83 |
2018 | #11 | First Four First round Second round Sweet Sixteen | #11 Arizona State #6 TCU #3 Michigan State #2 Duke | W 60–56 W 57–52 W 55–53 L 65–69 |
2019 | #8 | First round | #9 Baylor | L 69–78 |
2021 | #11 | First round Second round Sweet Sixteen | #6 San Diego State #3 West Virginia #2 Houston | W 78–62 W 75–72 L 46–62 |
And if Jesse didn't break his wrist in '22 that team could have went deep in the NCAAT.I don’t get this idea that we have had 10 years of horrific tortured losing SU basketball. No doubt we have had issues in JB’s latter years particularly with recruiting but the length of time keeps expanding in people’s posts. 10 years ago was 2014. We made the NCAA’s in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2021. For us making just half the NCAA tournaments is disappointing, because we’ve been spoiled by so much extreme success almost every year of his long tenure here. We tend to eliminate that it included a final 4, 2 Sweet 16’s in those 5 appearances.
2014 #3 Second round
Third round#14 Western Michigan
#11 DaytonW 77–53
L 53–552016 #10 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four#7 Dayton
#15 Middle Tennessee State
#11 Gonzaga
#1 Virginia
#1 North CarolinaW 70–51
W 75–50
W 63–60
W 68–62
L 66–832018 #11 First Four
First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#11 Arizona State
#6 TCU
#3 Michigan State
#2 DukeW 60–56
W 57–52
W 55–53
L 65–692019 #8 First round #9 Baylor L 69–78 2021 #11 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#6 San Diego State
#3 West Virginia
#2 HoustonW 78–62
W 75–72
L 46–62
Hoping we give Red a chance to start his own legacy in this totally new and different college basketball world that started in just the last few years and stop the crying and whining and even resorting to exaggerating our demise. Negativity is a killer for programs and their brand making it much more difficult to recruit, get $ support for NIL and get people in the stands to support the program. Bottom line is we want to win, Red wants to win and lead the program in his own way, in a brand new ever changing era after the great legacy our program has had for over half a century. LGO!
The good news is that I have heard that this guy is an expert at the 2-3 defense. Just kidding.
i don't care about alumni being coaches. I care about winning and getting back to post season. hopefully many others share same opinion.And all the same ones who want alumis to fill every coaching position as well. Like why? I’d rather have outside influence and different ideas that can help us win.
What style of offense did MSMU run? If he comes with his point guard, I think that's what he's coming in for.
I agree. But i see it as being lazy and not doing your due diligence by always hiring former players.i don't care about alumni being coaches. I care about winning and getting back to post season. hopefully many others share same opinion.
Teams in those lower level conferences usually have a lot of OOC loses. He did make the NCAAT with them.The style of offense that gets you a record under .400 after 6 seasons.
its officailly a trend in CFBBecoming an assistant vs hc is something
Only guy I remember doing this (and I’m sure im missing 100) was pitino from BU to Knicks Asst
The results will be whatever they are. We shall see. Just bc he hired outside the family doesn't guarantee success.Agreed. Just shows you the how Red knows what he is doing and is adapting to how the game needs to be played now with recruiting, portal, NIL, etc. if JB were here there is no doubt Nichols or someone like that would have been Gmacs replacement
Cherie we haven’t been nationally relevant since Ennis. Regular season metrics back that up. I want to enjoy SU basketball throughout the season and not hope we’re on the right side of the bubble when lightning strikes.I don’t get this idea that we have had 10 years of horrific tortured losing SU basketball. No doubt we have had issues in JB’s latter years particularly with recruiting but the length of time keeps expanding in people’s posts. 10 years ago was 2014. We made the NCAA’s in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2021. For us making just half the NCAA tournaments is disappointing, because we’ve been spoiled by so much extreme success almost every year of his long tenure here. We tend to eliminate that it included a final 4, 2 Sweet 16’s in those 5 appearances.
2014 #3 Second round
Third round#14 Western Michigan
#11 DaytonW 77–53
L 53–552016 #10 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four#7 Dayton
#15 Middle Tennessee State
#11 Gonzaga
#1 Virginia
#1 North CarolinaW 70–51
W 75–50
W 63–60
W 68–62
L 66–832018 #11 First Four
First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#11 Arizona State
#6 TCU
#3 Michigan State
#2 DukeW 60–56
W 57–52
W 55–53
L 65–692019 #8 First round #9 Baylor L 69–78 2021 #11 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#6 San Diego State
#3 West Virginia
#2 HoustonW 78–62
W 75–72
L 46–62
Hoping we give Red a chance to start his own legacy in this totally new and different college basketball world that started in just the last few years and stop the crying and whining and even resorting to exaggerating our demise. Negativity is a killer for programs and their brand making it much more difficult to recruit, get $ support for NIL and get people in the stands to support the program. Bottom line is we want to win, Red wants to win and lead the program in his own way, in a brand new ever changing era after the great legacy our program has had for over half a century. LGO!
Appreciate this, but here are more facts.I don’t get this idea that we have had 10 years of horrific tortured losing SU basketball. No doubt we have had issues in JB’s latter years particularly with recruiting but the length of time keeps expanding in people’s posts. 10 years ago was 2014. We made the NCAA’s in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2021. For us making just half the NCAA tournaments is disappointing, because we’ve been spoiled by so much extreme success almost every year of his long tenure here. We tend to eliminate that it included a final 4, 2 Sweet 16’s in those 5 appearances.
2014 #3 Second round
Third round#14 Western Michigan
#11 DaytonW 77–53
L 53–552016 #10 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four#7 Dayton
#15 Middle Tennessee State
#11 Gonzaga
#1 Virginia
#1 North CarolinaW 70–51
W 75–50
W 63–60
W 68–62
L 66–832018 #11 First Four
First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#11 Arizona State
#6 TCU
#3 Michigan State
#2 DukeW 60–56
W 57–52
W 55–53
L 65–692019 #8 First round #9 Baylor L 69–78 2021 #11 First round
Second round
Sweet Sixteen#6 San Diego State
#3 West Virginia
#2 HoustonW 78–62
W 75–72
L 46–62
Hoping we give Red a chance to start his own legacy in this totally new and different college basketball world that started in just the last few years and stop the crying and whining and even resorting to exaggerating our demise. Negativity is a killer for programs and their brand making it much more difficult to recruit, get $ support for NIL and get people in the stands to support the program. Bottom line is we want to win, Red wants to win and lead the program in his own way, in a brand new ever changing era after the great legacy our program has had for over half a century. LGO!