NIL struggles

[Fly Rodder]

The program is never going to move forward with so many people living in the past.

 

[kcsu]

Syracuse's success (along with Georgetown, and UConn) made the Big East, not the other way around. These schools recruited well because they had great coaches who won games.

ESPN made the Big East

 

[IthacaMatt]

I think he really misses us too. He liked the attention and now he’s an after thought.

His last 2 restaurant ventures have not gotten very good reviews.

 

[IthacaMatt]

It’s year 2 for a new coach. Melo kept his distance so Red could run. The program, but has also been working with cuse companies since last year. People don’t know this but melo is here quite often. He’s just very under the radar but he has been helping since last year and Kiyan gives him a very big reason to hit the gas and ramp things up

I saw a preview of some commercials Kiyan, Melo and JB are doing for some car dealer, I think it was.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Adam Weitsman featuring Chance the Rapper Treadmill Stations (in the melo center.)

Each station features a pair of wireless beats headphones streaming Chance's spotify playlist.

I hope there are at least two of them !!! LOL

 

[IthacaMatt]

There definitely not all his fault. Hell he is the only reason are team was so good and competitive for 37 plus years straight!!! People have such small memorie spans.

Some of us are old enough to know that's not true.

Go to SU's wikipedia page, for crying out loud. Syracuse has had a lot of successful coaches over the years.

We made Regional Finals and Semifinals in the 50s and 60s, played in the NIT in the 1940s, 50s and early 70s, and the Final Four before Boeheim was ever head coach. We only had a couple bad stretches in our entire history. Back in the teens and twenties, we were twice chosen as the best team / fictional Nation Champions in 1918 and 1926.

Our first great coach was Eddie Dollard, who won that 1918 championship, and finished with a .719 career winning percentage over 13 seasons - better than Boeheim, in fact, who finished at .717 for his career.

Our next great coach was Lew Andreas. He coached us for 26 years, from 1924 to 1950. He also won a Helms National Championship, and was our all-time winningest coach with a career .726 winning percentage.

Fred Lewis brought the program back from the dead, after 2 disastrous years of Marc Gurley (who still was coach for 12 years, still finished with a career winning record here, and made an NCAA tournament with Jim Brown on the team). We can thank Fred for Dave Bing and Jim Boeheim.

Roy Danforth had 8 excellent years, making 2 NITs, 4 NCAA tournaments and our first Final Four.

So, to say that Jim Boeheim "made" Syracuse basketball is a terrible statement. He brought it to new levels, thanks to the birth of the Big East, and ESPN, and the whole "right place, right time" aspect of it.

But Syracuse has ALWAYS been a big basketball town. We were an original NBA franchise. We invented the 24 second shot clock. We integrated the NBA. Local kids like Billy Gabor became big stars. Learn your history, before you try to claim that Jim Boeheim is the sole source of Syracuse basketball success.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Syracuse's success (along with Georgetown, and UConn) made the Big East, not the other way around. These schools recruited well because they had great coaches who won games.

But ESPN and Dick Vitale made them both.

 

[Nicknack]

His last 2 restaurant ventures have not gotten very good reviews.

I saw a preview of some commercials Kiyan, Melo and JB are doing for some car dealer, I think it was.

I hope there are at least two of them !!! LOL

Some of us are old enough to know that's not true.

Go to SU's wikipedia page, for crying out loud. Syracuse has had a lot of successful coaches over the years.

We made Regional Finals and Semifinals in the 50s and 60s, played in the NIT in the 1940s, 50s and early 70s, and the Final Four before Boeheim was ever head coach. We only had a couple bad stretches in our entire history. Back in the teens and twenties, we were twice chosen as the best team / fictional Nation Champions in 1918 and 1926.

Our first great coach was Eddie Dollard, who won that 1918 championship, and finished with a .719 career winning percentage over 13 seasons - better than Boeheim, in fact, who finished at .717 for his career.

Our next great coach was Lew Andreas. He coached us for 26 years, from 1924 to 1950. He also won a Helms National Championship, and was our all-time winningest coach with a career .726 winning percentage.

Fred Lewis brought the program back from the dead, after 2 disastrous years of Marc Gurley (who still was coach for 12 years, still finished with a career winning record here, and made an NCAA tournament with Jim Brown on the team). We can thank Fred for Dave Bing and Jim Boeheim.

Roy Danforth had 8 excellent years, making 2 NITs, 4 NCAA tournaments and our first Final Four.

So, to say that Jim Boeheim "made" Syracuse basketball is a terrible statement. He brought it to new levels, thanks to the birth of the Big East, and ESPN, and the whole "right place, right time" aspect of it.

But Syracuse has ALWAYS been a big basketball town. We were an original NBA franchise. We invented the 24 second shot clock. We integrated the NBA. Local kids like Billy Gabor became big stars. Learn your history, before you try to claim that Jim Boeheim is the sole source of Syracuse basketball success.

But ESPN and Dick Vitale made them both.

Good points, Matt. ;-)

 

[chuck]

JB deserves a lot of credit, but The Big East and The Dome were huge parts of his success.

Yeh OK. JB filled the dome and won against the teams and coached against the hall of fame coaches and won against them!! But it was the stadium and the conference. Lame...

 

[orangefog]

Yeh OK. JB filled the dome and won against the teams and coached against the hall of fame coaches and won against them!! But it was the stadium and the conference. Lame...

Do you believe the Dome and being in the Big East Conference aided JB in bringing in the great players that won those games?

 

[kcsu]

Yeh OK. JB filled the dome and won against the teams and coached against the hall of fame coaches and won against them!! But it was the stadium and the conference. Lame...

Read Jims book

 

[Nicknack]

Yeh OK. JB filled the dome and won against the teams and coached against the hall of fame coaches and won against them!! But it was the stadium and the conference. Lame...

Are you aware that you're dismissing some serious diehard cuse fans that go back to that time? What you're arguing against has been written and discussed from reputable sources, including Jim himself.